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Roulette Ask The Croupier

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by 6probability9, May 10, 2022.

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  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Active Member

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    .. in regard to impacting the worth of time investment, so returns on it = the number of hits to positive.

    System triangular recursive parameters are:
    max drawdown = bankroll requirement
    max game length
    profit/spin ratio

    bankroll/session profit ratio → compounding effect rate
     
  2. Keyser Soze

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    Even with the La Partage rule, getting half your bet back still constitute a loss.
    I get it, getting half your bet back gives you a fighting chance to win back your winnings on the next spin.

    When people here say “The La Partage rule don’t mean nothing to me” what they’re actually saying is “If I don’t win what I bet plus some profit. La Partage doesn’t matter.”

    Can you actually say you won profits because of the La Partage rule?
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

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    La Partage is a cock and bull story being spread in favor of the casinos .


    To them half a loaf once in a while is better than none .
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

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    It is not surprising that a casino proletarian like 5 P 9 is promoting the la partage .


    EC are a game of luck. So we the casinos have to get them where and how we can .
     
  5. Nathan Detroit

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    It`s a game play between casinos and public .
     
  6. 6probability9

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    Then I'm calling out your BS.
    American Roulette has a lower probability on both straight up (2.63%) and EC (47.36%) bets. If you're going to argue for playing American roulette over EU/FR roulette, then this debate has already concluded.

    You've just supported betting with Even Chances on the EU that offers 48.65% coverage, the highest probability of winning and the lowest probability of losing -1 (48.65%) a bet at minimum stakes of 1:1.

    Every bet position in EU roulette has an equal expected value of -2.7%. whether you bet straight up, ECs or six-lines/double streets. Even Chance with La Partage is the only bet that loses less than the expected value of all bets in EU roulette.

    The optimal bet selection is the most cost-effective option. The irony is that you don't see 1.35 < 2.7

    If you're not betting even chances, then you're executing a higher risk.
     
  7. 6probability9

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    You can't argue the alternative is playing on a table that offers the worst odds if that table is American. You have a lower chance of winning ECs if you bet on the US rather than the EU.

    The bottom line is that La Partage reduces your net losses by 50%.
     
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  8. SPIKE

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    So what, dummy. You're still losing. The point is to win more than you lose not just to lose less. You have a typical loser mentality.
     
  9. 6probability9

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    You're a halfwit. pun intended. Stop projecting your mentality onto me. you keep 1/2 your bet, but you have no experience of that. your exp is mostly american.
    In all your years, you've never understood expected value. You were never playing to win. You admitted to playing games available in your location. You've pissed your income on an inferior variant. The mental conditioning to convince yourself that you're a winner and the house edge is statistically irrelevant.

    You are compensating for all your losses by externalising that you have a sizeable edge in roulette. The reality and math is that you are making more losses than profits since you're paying taxes on your gambling winnings. You're the epitome of lose-lose.
     
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  10. SPIKE

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    Who the FUCK cares! It is not offered here, you incredible brainless moron. And even if it was, it's a stupid nothing bet if you have the edge. Sometimes you people in the UK have shite for brains, you cannot see the goddamn forest for the trees. Do you actually think the casinos doing you a favor by offering partage? It's a sucker bet, they aren't trying to save you any money they're trying to make you play longer so they can get more of YOUR money. Wise up, quit being a chump.
     
  11. 6probability9

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    Look at you completely overwhelmed by emotion because a fraction triggers your math anxiety. The self-righteous american calling a foreigner brainless is a universal joke to the rest of the internet.
    If it's not available in your area why are you jumping in the replies not intended for you? Leave the dialogue you loser.

    Advantage players care to reduce the house edge. american roulette has worse odds and zero(s) yield no return on ECs. You most certainly dont comprehend expected value.

    You really can't afford to play on live single zero tables let alone debate the effectiveness of La Partage. Your shitty american income forces you to play a shitty american variant of roulette.

    How does it feel giving the IRS a percentage your gambling winnings? you're the sorriest bottom in Mid-West.
     
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  12. thereddiamanthe

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    bs = bet selection.
     
  13. thereddiamanthe

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    After on multiple instances already written fact, that LP will constitute an initial +1.35% edge, as the first piece of a pie, in your favor .. accompanied with another fact of once you make the decision to situate your game on the table type that provides such an option .. having that first piece of the pie set, you can't do anything else about it.


    The point .. & the irony is, that your head thinks in 1-step at a time, having a 1-spin attention span only, & sticking to only that first piece set (that btw is still below the required to consistently attain positive) .. you sound like an old gramophone having in-store only one old LP, singing that broken record over & over; broken coz with that alone you won't win .. just like brokers handling other people's money are comparatively broke .. with their advantage being 'just above' broke .. meanwhile your LP is 'just below' profit(able).


    Talking about bs on EC, there's none that long-term continuous betting every spin (within a session, or banged together many 'one bet+run' sessions = same thing) offers any advantage over the other .. so that point of 'optimal bs' is immaterial .. unless you have proof of otherwise (btw, there's plenty of roulette forums having +10 years records saying otherwise .. one of them actually name betselection .. & I can assure you countless & various things has been tested).

    By now you've realized that math of LP offers you an insufficient added advantage, & adding bs won't cover all instances. Hmmm .. wait .. EC covers 18ⁿ at 1:1 (+1u), DZ or CL covers 12ⁿ at 2:1 (+2u).. so 33.3% less coverage for 100% higher payout) .. how about that!? EC→DZ .. just to begin with .. cost-effectiveness ..



    Again, 'irreducible complexity, combining several advanced mechanisms working congruently in-sync, constitutes a winning, higher edge that LP alone -- with or without it. But you have to have a little bit of brain for that .. unstuck your mind & expand your horizons.


    I am being patient here ..
     
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    Yet that's all I play on at online casinos and they pay me every single day. The best thing about this conversation is you think la partage is the casino doing you a favor when it's actually a trick to get you to play longer and lose even more money. But you can't see that and it's hilarious.
     
  16. 6probability9

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    If you're not betting even chances, then you're executing a higher risk.
    The point being why would anybody choose to play with a disadvantage on an american table?
    I'm repeating myself because you still don't refute the significance of the only bet in roulette with a 1.35% house edge. If you actually played ECs with the rule you would be able comprehend that La Partage benefits bank roll longevity.

    You have missed the train of consistency. This post reads like headcanon strategies you vaguely recall on some american forum.

    You dont understand La Partage because it offers an advantage over all other bets in the game. Every bet position in EU roulette has an equal expected value of -2.7%
    Proof:

    straight = 35×(1÷37)−1×(36÷37) = -.027
    split = 17×(2÷37)−1×(35÷37) = -.027
    street = 11×(3÷37)−1×(34÷37) = -.027
    corner = 8×(4÷37)−1×(33÷37) = -.027
    six line = 5×(6÷37)−1×331÷37) = -.027
    Dzn/Clmn = 2×(12÷37)−1×(25÷37) = -.027
    EC = 1×(18÷37)−1×(19÷37) = -.027

    This eqiation will blow your mind:

    EC + LP = 1×(18÷37)−1×(18÷37)-0.5(1÷37)= -.0135

    If you can't interpret what the math means to the game of roulette and the optimal bet selection to play long-term. Then the casino will gladly collect your losses.

     
  17. 6probability9

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    Live tables and online tables have entirely different table minimums. As I assumed, you can't afford to roll into a B & M casino and play live European roulette. Stick to your $1 virtual bets.
    This is an opinion from someone that has never played with La Partage rules. You're stooping real low for an argument. Stop trying to convince the reader that a casino will give you back half your bet because they want you to lose more money.
    Your intelligence is laughable.
    In America, they simply add another zero and remove any advantage.
     
  18. Junket King

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    Lack of choice!! Despite enjoying a self professed 72% win rate, which is now inching closer to his actual age, has never travelled aboard to rape and pillage casinos in Monte-Carlo, London, Paris, Hamburg or even Macau. Yet we are jealous because he can beat Roulette and those that question his ability can't, straw man argument.

    True, 80% win rate, yet shops for out of date food, tells everybody what they need to know.

    He posted recently betting online he has encountered being hit by zero on four occasions.

    I used to play the EC's many years ago, La Partage in the UK is a decent advantage.
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Why travel abroad when the casinos in the US are on average several times larger than those abroad (especially larger than in the UK), they tend to allow much larger bets, and they don't require a club card to enter or cash out.
     
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    No, it will blow bankrolls -- do you see ...↑... that big fat line in front .. that's minus.


    Ofc, its executing at a higher risk; firstly, that's why one of the progression dimensions is in 'risk' .. & secondly, combining all of the dimensions in the way proper .. you 'bet what the game is asking you to profit' at any time -- simultaneously, the minimum you can, most suitable coverage, & at the best district (EC,DZ,....) or probability = highly adaptable.

    What else is adaptable .. what's that .. variance!? .. that's how & why it got it most likely got its name, for it varies.

    Governments in most EU countries charge for driving on highways, meanwhile offer free driving on all other regional roads .. so basically, you're driving on discount. But you're spending more on gas accelerating, buffing more the brake disks, wear tyres .. & definitely get there, well anywhere slower.


    Now I know why you are a dealer.
     
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