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Baccarat Baccarat Odds beat with testings

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by BeJustRich, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    And since we're talking testing. LOL This old retard codger got nothing much to do when he's not sailing, working or confined to the virus and n casino! Ouch! What's a retard to do? I know! Test! LOL

    I did a 125 shoe test on JK 7 Column a while back. When I test any method I tend to just jump around in my data to mix things up a bit. If I think there is some promise I continue. That's why you see different shoes, dates, and casinos haphazard. I test in spreadsheet and cannot upload without saving in PDF so attached the PDF of 7 column. Bottom line % win was 52.25% win rate for 125 shoes and each shoe averaged 9.3 bets per shoe. The other thing to look at is the W and L in a row (W/L IAR). Very promising in my opinion.

    Anyway, here is the PDF for your perusal. Works better in Excel but. . .

    Sincerely,

    Old Retard Codger :)
     

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  2. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You are like somebody who has Tourette's yet has no idea what it is or that they suffer from it. I did notice you even type "hey hey" on emails hey hey, Honestly I'd lay off slinging the word "retard" around, seriously....

    Im guessing you walk around muttering "hey hey" under your breath, looking at something through a shop window, you say to yourself "hey hey", get back to your car and you say "hey hey", you have no awareness how far you are gone, hey hey.
     
  3. FRGCardinal

    FRGCardinal New Member

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    Hi all,
    I've utilized both files from Wizard of Odds that give 1000 shoes, complete with actual cards drawn. One set uses 6 deck shoes, while the other uses 8 deck shoes. I like what I've found so far, but would be more comfortable if I had even more data.
    So, what I'm asking, does anyone know where I might find MORE sample shoes in a format easily imported into a spreadsheet, such as WoO has?
     
  4. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Do you need cards drawn, or just Banker, Player results?
     
  5. FRGCardinal

    FRGCardinal New Member

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    Cards drawn, too. If you have ideas on where I can find such data presented in a manner not unlike Wizard of Odds did. The txt file with commas separating the values for each hand made it easy to import into a CSV file.
     
  6. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Would the format below work? Here is one shoe.

    shoe,hand,play,natural,pCards,bCards,pCardVals,bCardVals,pHandVal,bHandVal
    1,1,"B",1,"J6","8J",06,80,6,8
    1,2,"P",0,"6T","K22",60,022,6,4
    1,3,"B",0,"7K","JK9",70,009,7,9
    1,4,"B",0,"7Q","TT8",70,008,7,8
    1,5,"B",0,"687","A57",687,157,1,3
    1,6,"P",0,"A49","659",149,659,4,0
    1,7,"P",1,"53","83",53,83,8,1
    1,8,"P",1,"A8","32",18,32,9,5
    1,9,"T",0,"Q3J","A2Q",030,120,3,3
    1,10,"B",0,"29A","6T",291,60,2,6
    1,11,"P",0,"7T","762",70,762,7,5
    1,12,"P",1,"K9","4K",09,40,9,4
    1,13,"B",1,"52","Q8",52,08,7,8
    1,14,"B",1,"9A","J9",91,09,0,9
    1,15,"B",0,"6K","TT9",60,009,6,9
    1,16,"B",1,"KK","45",00,45,0,9
    1,17,"B",1,"84","8Q",84,80,2,8
    1,18,"P",1,"54","K5",54,05,9,5
    1,19,"P",1,"K8","4T",08,40,8,4
    1,20,"P",0,"58K","769",580,769,3,2
    1,21,"P",0,"KJ7","6T4",007,604,7,0
    1,22,"B",1,"87","8J",87,80,5,8
    1,23,"P",0,"Q52","A3A",052,131,7,5
    1,24,"B",1,"A4","63",14,63,5,9
    1,25,"P",1,"26","KQ",26,00,8,0
    1,26,"T",0,"42","88",42,88,6,6
    1,27,"B",1,"43","53",43,53,7,8
    1,28,"B",1,"A9","K9",19,09,0,9
    1,29,"P",1,"T8","A2",08,12,8,3
    1,30,"P",1,"8K","87",80,87,8,5
    1,31,"P",1,"99","2Q",99,20,8,2
    1,32,"B",0,"2JK","96",200,96,2,5
    1,33,"B",0,"T2Q","J7",020,07,2,7
    1,34,"B",1,"TA","35",01,35,1,8
    1,35,"T",0,"K7","QJ7",07,007,7,7
    1,36,"B",1,"A9","K8",19,08,0,8
    1,37,"B",1,"78","72",78,72,5,9
    1,38,"B",0,"563","J5",563,05,4,5
    1,39,"P",1,"62","43",62,43,8,7
    1,40,"B",1,"76","63",76,63,3,9
    1,41,"P",1,"J9","AT",09,10,9,1
    1,42,"P",0,"Q4K","QAQ",040,010,4,1
    1,43,"P",0,"4Q3","QJ5",403,005,7,5
    1,44,"P",1,"27","QJ",27,00,9,0
    1,45,"P",1,"J8","AQ",08,10,8,1
    1,46,"B",0,"KK2","K5",002,05,2,5
    1,47,"B",0,"399","945",399,945,1,8
    1,48,"T",0,"T6","T6",06,06,6,6
    1,49,"P",0,"24","85T",24,850,6,3
    1,50,"P",0,"JA4","498",014,498,5,1
    1,51,"P",0,"322","6J",322,60,7,6
    1,52,"P",0,"K54","J6",054,06,9,6
    1,53,"P",1,"A8","57",18,57,9,2
    1,54,"P",1,"8J","37",80,37,8,0
    1,55,"P",1,"9J","AJ",90,10,9,1
    1,56,"P",1,"54","3T",54,30,9,3
    1,57,"P",0,"K25","767",025,767,7,0
    1,58,"T",1,"9T","36",90,36,9,9
    1,59,"P",0,"KT5","TTT",005,000,5,0
    1,60,"P",1,"9Q","65",90,65,9,1
    1,61,"P",1,"A8","J5",18,05,9,5
    1,62,"B",1,"Q3","53",03,53,3,8
    1,63,"B",0,"28K","397",280,397,0,9
    1,64,"T",0,"KQA","65J",001,650,1,1
    1,65,"B",0,"2J9","644",209,644,1,4
    1,66,"B",0,"T49","52",049,52,3,7
    1,67,"B",0,"2AJ","89",210,89,3,7
    1,68,"P",1,"A7","AQ",17,10,8,1
    1,69,"P",1,"J9","33",09,33,9,6
    1,70,"P",1,"45","AQ",45,10,9,1
    1,71,"P",0,"964","387",964,387,9,8
    1,72,"T",0,"77Q","4Q",770,40,4,4
    1,73,"B",0,"A37","QT6",137,006,1,6
    1,74,"P",0,"2QT","47J",200,470,2,1
    1,75,"P",0,"T6","2T8",06,208,6,0
    1,76,"P",0,"T7","JJ4",07,004,7,4
    1,77,"B",0,"73A","654",731,654,1,5
    1,78,"P",1,"A7","82",17,82,8,0
    1,79,"B",1,"QT","26",00,26,0,8
    1,80,"P",1,"K8","57",08,57,8,2
    1,81,"P",0,"QT9","3QT",009,300,9,3
    1,82,"T",0,"842","3AT",842,310,4,4
    1,83,"P",0,"33","QKJ",33,000,6,0
     
  7. BeJustRich

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    I have real shoes pictures (completed 8 decks) total 200 of them if you interested. I can create a link and u can download them,
     

  8. FRGCardinal

    FRGCardinal New Member

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    That would be perfect if the card ranks were separated by commas! Does anyone know how I can easily do that within, say, a text file? Such that importing the file into Excel as a CSV would render each card in its own cell?
     
  9. FRGCardinal

    FRGCardinal New Member

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    Actual jpgs? Hmm... I'm hoping for batches of hands from a shoe so I can import them into an Excel file and analyze every card. But I appreciate your response!
     
  10. FRGCardinal

    FRGCardinal New Member

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    WAIT! I'm an idiot who has so much to learn about Excel... YES! That format WILL work! I just had to figure out how to create a text doc to import and learn how to parse the cells. Thank you so much in advance!
     
  11. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Let me contact the programmer and see if it is okay with him to upload his data that he sent me. These are simulated.
     
  12. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    The programmer that I got these from says go ahead. These are simulated, 8 deck. He did the burn cards to begin each shoe as well as simulated yellow card to end each shoe. See attached for 2500 shoes. Good Luck!
     

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  13. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    It may load up properly as is but if not, try renaming the extension from TXT to CSV and that might help.
     
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  14. FRGCardinal

    FRGCardinal New Member

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    It worked perfectly. Not giving me the results I was hoping for, LOL, but this is why we test...
    ;-)
     

  15. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity Active Member

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    The bottom line is, if a bettor can bet on all or most hands in a shoe using his decisions or some other form of determining what side to bet on and gain a minimum of 3 units he can be a winner.

    He can also exit a shoe as soon as his target is reached be it 3, 4 or 5 units... early on in a shoe.

    Also note that computer generated baccarat outcomes and RNG do not produce real world combinations, patterns and trends and do not show bias for one side or the other as in reality you'll find.
     
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  16. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I have been down that road many times.
     

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