Fathead, I really do appreciate the effort you have put into this. I would think that we are all looking for something, anything that offers a little bit of hope. You have reached the same conclusion that I have, Craps offers the best chance over both Baccarat and Roulette because there is no Zeros or Ties to interrupt the the pattern. Therefore, if a betting system is to be developed it should be done with the game of Craps only. The one question I have to ask when you tested my system, did you program it so that one session was not complete until a win of 64 units or that session lost the 7 step Martingale? This is a very important part of the procedure. An other important part of the procedure is to stop when you have accrued a loss of no more than 384 units no matter where you are. in other words, if you are ahead by by 1,000 units and you lose 384 units that is end of game. That is to be considered long term. You do not continue playing the system after that. After getting familiar with the game of Craps and the better chance it has over Roulette and Baccarat, I have been experimenting with two other systems that are showing better results than the one I initially posted. I will say this about the game of Craps and its drawback is it is the slowest game on earth. I would never play Craps at a b & m casino. Online games are much quicker and I really like the newer Revolution Craps where I have been testing the two latest systems I am developing. I do not have a means to program my systems and can only test them on a Craps simulator. I use the Wizard of Odds Crap simulator because it has been independently tested and found to be extremely accurate. When I have tested these two new systems long enough and find the one that works the best of the two, would you be willing to program it to see if it has any validity?