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Blackjack Current feud with Qfit (Norman Wattenberger)

Discussion in 'Blackjack Forum' started by KewlJ, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. Gambling After Dark

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    Norm, I know youre going to read this too and your wrinkly old ass is going down too. You allowed a person to out another's real name on your forum, without any consequences. You were warned and supplied all the information why that person's name should've never been allowed to be mentioned on your forum and you didn't do anything? old man, you better lawyer up too. I see you think youre some kind of god on these forums and your shit's coming to an end. I guarantee you, you wrinkly old bastard, I'll be seeing you in court too. Anyone who can supply me stories and anything related to Norm's attempt to monopolize these forums, please send them my way.
     
  2. Tater

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    Flash is the bastard I want. He poses on the site as a mentor to get personal information. Then he share that information with the others in his group. I guess he is this decrepit old shit that has gone about 1/2 senile. But why does Norm look that other way? He threatened with me violence from T3 on the forum and I responded to whenever or wherever. But Norm deletes the post and ban me, but not Flash. So I write T3 directly and he doesn't know anything about it. I got his email from the blanket sent to me.

    Others have read his emails that he deem so fucking important he thinks the entire world must know. Now he calls them, my lady friend, a liar. I woke up this morning thinking I'd let it go. But the old son of a bitch is still flapping his gums on BJTF because he knows I can't respond. Anyway to shut this arrogant prick up for good.

    Hey Tarzan, you think it's okay to be rude to a lady on a website with Flash by defending your pathetic buddy. You two are supposed to be these unique and wild guys? Trying saying that same shit to me and to my face.
     
  3. Tater

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    BTW. Thanks to Bosox. For standing alone against them in my behalf because you know I can't respond. I owe you one. :)

    Tarzan really? You were this little nerdy fucker in school? Somehow I'd pictured you differently. My how you can talk to a woman who can't respond. But mind you, she has 3 sons aware of your silly assed comments. Good luck with that Nerd boy! None of you guys are going to do a damn thing but shit yourselves if ever confronted. Might be a good idea to shut the fuck up. Better yet? Keep talking.
     
  4. Gambling After Dark

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    Yes, I see alot (not all) of these self proclaimed AP's on Norm's forum, who talk down upon people just because they're new players or new members. Funny, in blackjack, its well known its the casinos whose the opponents, not other players. However, many of those dickless wonders over at Norm's forget that. Lots of little bitter nerds over there. Hell,some days, part of me wishes I didn't completely expose and take on the scumbag blackjack army. I could sit back, like everyone else did, and grab my popcorn and watch morgenstern still going to town on them to this day. Thankfully for them, I'm not a little bitch like they are in life. I look out and stand up for others with respect. Contrary to belief, I'm not looking to fight anyone, those days and mentality are long gone. However, when push comes to shove, I'll be the first to teach someone a lesson they failed to learn in life from their parents.
    So youre saying those guys at norm's think they're tough right? a gang of cyber warriors like Morgenstern huh? Well, its well documented how I deal with those cyber warriors. My goal is to help others in the community, in a respectful manner. There's ways to do to accomplish that, without attacking them.
     
  5. Tater

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    GAD. Flash loves to bully anyone who doesn't agree with him. If you read the thread "She is killing us" you will see what I mean. Then usually a member of his group chimes in behind him. In my case, I was on an email list of Flash. He would send it to all in his brigade. That is how I knew who they where.

    Here is the problem. 1.) I never gave him permission to forward my email address. 2.) What if the other side, fooled him and, is on that list. 3.) I was able to skip trace names on that list. Easy Peasy.

    Flash threatens me in a thread 16 vs 10. It started from him first thing in the morning out of nowhere...after my questions were already answered. Then he says T3 is a big guy and is going to kick my ass. Norm deleted all the posts and then bans me. But not Flash. So, because I have T3's email from the blanket he sends, I wrote T3 directly. I figure it's better than watching over my shoulder. T3 didn't want any trouble and neither did I.

    Quite frankly, I have no experience in this internet stuff. I'm from the old school. If one is going to start popping off they best be able to back it up. I bought Norm's products and he invited me to sign on. From day one, I started catching crap. Being called a troll etc,etc. Hell, I didn't even know what the term meant.

    I've never been in such a situation. In a casino, when someone starts bullying others, it gets resolved very quickly. Normally, I'm standing up for those who cannot defend themselves. So many stories. I wouldn't know where to start. Just so you know the person I am, I had a big problem with T3 when he was advocating a perfectly able body man use a wheelchair in order to see the cards. 1.) that is so wrong on so many levels. 2.) if someone was stupid enough to do this and get caught? Not even the criminal element would give the guy a break. They might put him in one permanently. But I think T3 and I resolved our issues.
     
  6. Gambling After Dark

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    How do you know they attached their real names to their email addresses? As for the wheelchair stunt, the MIT team did something similiar. I'm not advocating it, but a wheelchair isn't a sign that youre handicapped. Shit, I was forced to exit the hospital in a wheelchair after my surgery and I was perfectly fine to walk
     
  7. Tater

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    Some of it was the pen name and the real name. Others were just the full names. Others were just the pen name.

    I understand what you saying. But if caught, a high price to pay. There is more to worry about than just the EITS. Ass holes don't last long in the days of texting. I remember being watch and followed in casino. So I texted a couple of buddies. The ones following me in the casino and watching my play were not the ones that surrounded me in the parking lot. But my buddies rolled up in their car and those guys scattered.
     
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    WTF ?
     
  9. Tater

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    Figure it out. You're a smart guy. You seemed to have alot to say about Tater a couple of days ago.
     
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    Hmmm. Flash Marc has a new nickname "Tattle Tail"
     
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    I noticed Flash's "Tattle Tail" thread has been deleted. Wonder why?
     
  12. Gambling After Dark

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    All you AP's in here thinking your certain buddies were trustworthy? think again
     
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  13. Gambling After Dark

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    This the last mofo I knocked off his pedestal and took on his entire army by myself for messing with my family.


    So what happens when he's finally taken care of by the authorities? Yep, Mr Ryemo wants to play catch me if he can after posting my info at blackjack the forum and norm allowing it. Does anyone think I can?
     
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    anyone who wants to know the truth about the rats of the AP community can watch my video series. Time to exterminate these rats from jeopardizing unsuspecting AP's of their past actions
     
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  16. Neal Pace

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    I wouldn't even risk anything dodgy when it comes to blackjack or where I play. Then again, I don't know who this FLASH guy is?!
     
  17. Gambling After Dark

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    Neal, we're referring to members from blackjack the forum as being scumbag rats, whose protected by the forum's owner norm. Hell, my video above proves that and a lot more. If their little click dont like what you say to them, they get norm to ban you. Some even out your real name if they ever met you in that forum. However, it's going to come crashing down soon enough
     
  18. Parpaluck

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    A member of this house of cards reopened my appetite for visiting this kind of gambling cummunities. They all have in cummon meanness. But there is no meaner gambling-forum owner than Mean Norm (a new nickname I just coined for himm). Yes, I take credit for coining another nickname for (ab)Norm: Norman Bates. The fair guy that I am also gave Norman Wattenberger his royalty name: Shkiottorban. Every human deserves a royalty name and should have one. Mine is Parpaluck.

    I can see Mean Norm/Norman Bates/Shkiottorban is rattled again, I mean more rattled than he “NORMally is. He whines again of being a victim of all sorts of bad labels: anti-Semitism, mass-murderer, pedophile, terrorist, fraud... Personally, I’ve never seen anybody labeling Norman Bates as such in public forums. But everybody knows he cannot live without his masochistic wish of being a victim.

    Shkiottorban needs to vent his self-repressive thoughts at real entities: Web sites (such as Parpaluck’s) and gambling forums (especially ZenZone and GamblingForums).

    · “His host has a terrible reputation, isn't an actual host but a buyer of hosting space and regularly fails to pay his bills shutting down the site for a day or two (which I am blamed for). What reliable host would host extremist anti-Semitic hate sites?”
    · “If you wish to post to an extremist anti-Semitic site that includes posts nearly every day for years about the evils of Jews, go ahead. A site that claims that all Jews in NYC are guilty of thousands of deaths on 9/11; that the condensation trails behind jets are actually poison gasses spread by the Jewish controlled government to slaughter billions of people, go ahead. A site that claims I'm a mass murderer, pedophile, terrorist, fraud, go ahead.”
    https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/showthread.php?40822-Norm-how-does-one-deal-in-two-different-site-interactions

    Quoting is absolutely in accordance to the copyright protection laws (the fair use doctrine). These are normal quotations necessary in an adversarial and open debate. Not to mention that Norman Wattenberger‘s crap is valued at 0 (a far cry from the minimum $1000 required by copyright laws for published materials… who would pay $1000 for the two sentences above?!)

    The worst part of Norman Wattenberger‘s behavior is his hypocrisy. He does or is part of terrible things that he projects on others. He speaks of mass murderer or terrorist accusing others of such labels. In fact, many would argue on solid facts that his very forum promotes or accepts such acts. This is an exact quote from a thread “heard” in Norman Bates’ Motel:

    “People like this should be shot and put out of their misery. There should be a euthanasia program for scamsters like this piece of s**t.”
    (quotation and screenshot preserved here:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/rec.gambling.blackjack/ALKEZOXuqU4
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    Law enforcement can definitely interpret the two violently-angry sentences as terroristic threats or danger of mass-murder. Like enter a casino and shoot them gamblers who don’t follow the “AP rules established in the aforesaid motel” (AP stands for Arithmetical Psychosis).

    To the best of my knowledge, ZenZone and GamblingForums have never made threats in that terroristic category. Yet, Norman Wattenberger‘s forum is still open for business as usual!!! Remember when law enforcement was accused of “ignoring red flags” in the aftermath of the Parkland mass-shooting of 2018? A kid had posted on the Internet that he “wanted to become a school shooter”!!!

    C’mon, man!

    Ion Saliu,
    Anti-terror Advocate At-Large
    Anti-anti-Semitism Advocate At-Large
    Ultimate Egalitarian At-Large
    Founder of Axiomaticism

    “A good man is an axiomatic man; an axiomatic man is a happy man. Be axiomatic!”
     
  19. Gambling After Dark

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    His forum won't be open for much longer. Law enforcement (FbI internet crimes division) has their hands full and it takes agents a very lengthy time to investigate actions and comments made in a website's forum such as Norm's and users whose made them. Through experience, the forum's owner can be held completely liable for not properly maintaining his forum within the law.

    This holds true for threats made, privacy violations (such as mine) harassment etc, etc, etc. It's been fully proven, time and time again he fails on all accounts, within the law, as owner of his forum. I'll openly now announce an investigation has begun. Why would I announce it? cause you can't hide things that happened on the internet. The US attorney will grant the FBI's request for IP traces of every user on his forum, but most notably Norm's activity as site's owner.

    Meaning, how many emails and reports he blatantly ignored that violated internet crimes. My guess it will take a good 8-10 months to get that old bastard shut down, possibly fined and even better some well deserved jail time
     
  20. John Blerg

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    I have an ice cream stand on Eastern just south of the Commerce Casino outside of Los Angeles if anybody needs to chill out. I you come to me and say you are a member this board, I will give you some free one flavor ice cream either chocolate or vanilla, you can't miss me. I'm kind of Darker skin and I wear traditional Good Humor uniform and like I said, my stand is just on Eastern just south of the Commerce Casino outside one of the shopping plazas everyday. I won't say exactly what corner cuz I'm mobile and I move around but you won't miss me. Chill out guys this is past drama!
     

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