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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. lucky john

    lucky john New Member

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    Just an update, I’ve switched to blackjack, no more playing baccarat. BJ is more fun and the house edge can be less than 0.5% when using the basic strategy flawlessly (house edge can be more than 2% if play incorrectly). And it brings satisfaction when i did not make any mistake while winning some money. Seems that BJ is my cup of tea.
     
  2. eugene

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    Good luck LJ,

    Not to discourage you or anything but years ago I started playing Blackjack and to begin with just relied on basic strategy and there were many times that myself and all those at the table took a right hammering playing almost perfect basic strategy.

    I put it down to the fact that all those statistics for basic strategy are based on the long run and unfortunately playing for a couple of hours here and there can't be considered the long run. So pretty much anything can and will still happen. It gets frustrating when you are religiously following something without deviation and keep losing. Where is the fun in that and many times just following my gut instinct on some of the marginal calls would have won me a lot more hands.
     
  3. lucky john

    lucky john New Member

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    This sounds like a good advice. Thanks. I’ll take heed :)
     
  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If fun is your thing then I agree BJ way more fun than Baccarat. If you flat bet say $100 or have an average bet size of $100 and just get 50 hands per hour your loss is $25/hr at 0.5%. Doesn't sound like that much fun!

    Point is you still have to have a betting scheme if you want to win. If you keep track of the count then you can bet into pos. EV situations. But if not keeping a count then what's the betting strategy? Got to be some neg. progression, no?

    There are ways to play without counting though. Just keep track of the card flow and guess high cards. Also there are different ways to play 1st and 3rd base. But this is a Bacc thread so I won't say more about that stuff here.
     
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  5. lucky john

    lucky john New Member

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    There’s a well known strategy for baccarat and that is to always bet on banker as it has slightly higher chance of winning than player and every hand is completely independent from previous hands so analysing the scoreboard is useless. The house edge of banker is 1.06% while player is 1.24%. But the casinos near my home only has non commissioned baccarat where win on banker 6 gets 50% of wager. This increases the banker house edge to 1.45%. So in those casinos always betting on banker no longer makes sense. Assume that blackjack is a type of baccarat where you can only bet on player. The house edge of betting on player is only 0.5% (using basic strategy). Then following the strategy mentioned in beginning of this post, if a person want to seek out the lowest house edge in casino, he should play blackjack.
    I still think mathematicians are right about gambling. In one of their analysis, as long as the game is negative expectation, all progression strategies cannot work in long run. They are all as good or as bad as flat betting. Using martingale as example, in short term one may have consistent small gains but may also have huge loss at beginning due to bad luck. Then the one who have been winning small consistently and if he keeps playing, there will be a time of losing streaks to wipe off not only all his prior winnings, but to have overall losses.
    So where is the fun of flat betting when in long run there won’t be any wins? The thing is nobody who gamble long enough will lose around the house edge amount. He’s either winning a lot or losing a lot, much more than the house edge, and all depends on his luck. Gambling is a game of luck and that’s the thrill part, to have a chance of winning some money while having the 50/50 chance of losing money. Some people don’t find this fun but i’m one of those who find this thrilling. But i will gamble responsibly in a way that the amount I win or lose will not affect my life. Gambling is just a leisure activity for me. But i do make a gamble every month, placing $2400 bet in a single hand each month, and I’ve been winning more than $20,000 in every month for the past few years. The gamble is i’m paying $2400 in monthly rental of a classroom. If there is no student enrol to my class, I’ll be losing $2400 per month. But luckily, I always have about 160 students in each month, each paying me $160 per month of tuition fee. But one day i may have no student due to competitors are better. So if one wants to make consistent money from gambling that can make a living, this is the type of gamble that have higher chance of working, referring to setting up businesses, franchising etc.
     
  6. Turkish

    Turkish New Member

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    Have you heard from jae?
     
  7. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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  9. Jakela

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    Hello Jae, congrats on your success! I do hope current trend continues for you. I'm a neophyte at baccarat, so I'm looking for a good book on the subject. I'm a former Wall Street binary options trader, which accounts for my affinity for the game. Could you recommend some good reading material? Giving my background I am a "numbers guy", I've thus far heard of card counting, ect. But can't seam to find anything specific to that strategy... Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Jakela.
     
  10. Eric Michaels

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    Simple strategy. Bet $100/unit. Win 1 unit per shoe and wait for next shoe. Keep doing this and you will be a very happy bac player.
     
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  11. cluedupcity

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    Save that the 'golden secret baccarat winning strategy' is unique and one of if not the best baccarat strategy out there.
     
  12. Atlantis

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    Hi cluedupcity,

    Stephen Tabone - thats you, that is!

    You are posting under an alias again to promote your baccarat books again.

    Take care and don't be fooled by him.

    A.
     
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  13. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity Active Member

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    i only have one profile account, i have my picture there thus can't be a proxy can i
     
  14. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Somebody else selling snake oil...
     
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  15. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.

    You still pissing on other dogs tress, next you will claim how much bigger you are in the loins, or something about you and someones mamma , Start your own thread ,no one wants a golden shower from you or to be rubbed in your golden nuggets, no one wants your toilet paper start your own thread,

    You are like that character in Team America world police that only says "IM MATT DAMON" , "IM MATT DAMON", only what he has to say is a lot more informative than anything you have bought to any of the threads this forum you hijack. Yes Im aware you post on other forums same "IM MATT DAMON" crap . I would rather read something from a mathnazi at least its not a one dimensional sheet of toilet paper that you present as the sum total of your life.

    Maybe your next book should be "the golden fisting, elbows deep -the rim grinders companion to the golden secretion."

    IM MATT DAMON
    IM MATT DAMON

    Start your own thread if you think you have merit or are you too afraid ?

    IM MATT DAMON
     
  16. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity Active Member

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    Great comment!

    College professors might use it to teach student psychologists how to spot the signs that someone might have a borderline narcissistic personality disorder. :wacky:
     
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  17. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Thats a better post, at least thats a something post rather than nothing post. cheers
     
  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    They teach Malignant Narcissism by showing how people with that disorder flip out over common disagreement, perceive it as a personal criticism, and then try to control the remaining recipients with guilt and threat of anger, to whoever will allow themselves to be controlled. Narcissists depend on people that they can manipulate. These people are known as primary support, enablers. These Narcissists also allow secondary support from those that serve the purpose of propping up their egos in the capacity of being a recipient of their magnanimous largess or care. If a person does not fill either of those two rolls then they are deemed worthless, a threat, and are to be destroyed, banned from their presence. They give themselves away. If you are willing to consider this, it appears that there is an unqualified "group think" disorder with the same features among most radical leftists. They play the same games and the same types of manipulations.
     
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  19. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Troll tag team one accounts head , Skipptophia.
    I would have said

    I’m Matt Damon,
    it’s concise and means everything you just wrote.
    I’m Matt Damon,
    it stopped him from pissing on other dogs trees and he didn’t
    I’m Matt Damon
    his golden shower toilet book . That’s a first as all other posts have only been
    I’m Matt Damon.

    I gave him his one of three likes to cut him some slack. You know let him “sniff the glove “ sort of thing. Let’s hope he lays off the
    I’m Matt Damon
    and maybe post something of any value to at least one person other than himself.
    Cheers
     
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  20. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity Active Member

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    Arcem ex cloacâ facĕre.
     

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