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I smell a TV series. Like Highlander. There can be only one.

 

You smell like shit and you know it. Like kew. There can be more than one phony.

 

Old man (or grandpa) Newell, the amazon movie, prop money king, sitting in his adult diaper, waiting to be changed, really shouldn't be talking about anyone smelling like shit.

 

The thing about sports handicapping -- your record is public, as in national publications, year after year for decades. As opposed to, say, a certain video poker player, nobody as witness, nobody willing to publicly vouch for all of the grand winning. Nobody in the business who'll even say anything positive.

It's hard to be a phony in sports handicapping unless you own all of the competitions and monitors and pay a bunch of clients to lie for you, including Billy Walters.

But if Singer says I'm a phony, it must be true. He's da man. God bless him.

By the way, if anyone is interested in the origins of my sports handicapping, an origin story of sorts will be appearing in the soon-to-be-published Driving Southern, a collection of essays and short non-fiction. Look for it on Amazon or in your local Barnes and Noble soon!

 

Then prove yourself for once.

Oh wait!....in order to do that we need a password, but it's only available to "insiders". There's also nothing on the internet as far as evidence goes, unless we hook up with redietz' cousin's girlfriend's sister, who can guide us to a blog she wrote 25 years ago.

Until then, we all have to rely on the Ditz Chronicles. Or kew's little peepee.

 

Are you REALLY the one to pretend to be the expert on variable odors when you spend your evenings negotiating male "rims" and walk around all day with brown stains on your nose?

C'mon kew, fess up!

 

Or conversely, we could take a look at the McCusker Reports, annual summaries of handicappers' actual records, along with business practice comments, published out of Las Vegas. Or Who's Who in Sports Gambling, vetted and written by Rick Hall. Or decades worth of the nationally distributed Playbook newsletter. Or records from monitors such as The Sports Monitor or Handicapper's Report Card. Or better yet, pick up a copy of Playbook football magazine, available everywhere on newsstands, and give them a call. Ask them what they think of Bob Dietz and if he has any kind of track record or credibility.

Of course, Rob Singer knows best. God bless him.

Anyone wanting copies of McCusker Reports, the Who's Who bio, various op eds, or copies of my game descriptions from the nationally distributed Playbook newsletter, just drop me a line at:

Bob Dietz
1412 Forrest Dale Lane
Johnson City, TN 37604

 

I thought about being civil and stop throwing insults at you and just calmly explain to you where you have the mistaken notions about me. I don't know a thing about you as you could be the nicest guy on earth and you are just concerned about kids and what not.

My problem is that I'm wasting way too much time on something I shouldn't. I am busy as hell with my life as is and it's not because of gambling for sure; definitely not like a lot of people here may think. I am 100% certain that you don't like to lose an argument even after you are proven wrong, and that's my dilemma. Do I waste more time responding to you to get you to turn around or just don't respond and hope that you stop too, but it doesn't look like that you are going to stop so I guess I will just have to explain further.

I'm not good with English as it's my second language. I'm sure everyone here already noticed that. You can also tell by long posts that I make that it's difficult for me to clearly explain things in shorter and condensed sentences or paragraphs.

Perhaps you are misunderstanding what I'm saying to you since you even said some of what I said does not make sense to you when it makes perfectly clear sense to me. It's also possible that you are assuming things when you shouldn't. Honestly, I know you are assuming so I will point them out to you and you can tell me if I'm wrong.

But, my main reason for responding isn't to convince you of anything as you already made up your mind and you are convinced that you are 100% right since you said so yourself in one of your posts. So, I'm pretty sure no matter what I say to you, you will just keep this thing going. If I am wrong, then I apologize in advance for assuming. That's okay if you do since all I want to do is to make sure that no one else thinks that you are right when you aren't. In reality, there may be others who may think that you could be right and there is nothing I can do to change their minds.

I am not talking about what I'm doing is right or wrong by staying in the casino hotels for so long with the kids. You made your point about that and nothing more needs to be said. I'm sure a lot of others here if not all think like you and that's their right.

What I need to clear the air is about you accusing me of leaving the kids in the room by themselves.


>I assumed nothing, you wrote that they are in elementary school. You obviously did not read the linked articles.

So moving on, just because my kids are in elementary school, you must've thought that they are very young. They are young but not that young at 10 and 12 and the older one is going to middle school this fall. Like what KewjL said about LatchKey, there are legal age limits in some states for leaving kids home alone but neither NJ nor PA has that age limit. Sure, casino hotel isn't home so I don't know what the law is about that but it doesn't matter as my kids weren't left alone.

As to the article links you posted, you are wrong to even question me that I didn't read them. I may not have read them in full but skimmed through them to get the gist of it but it doesn't matter since they aren't new news to me as I've read plenty of news about the same issue because I read a TON of news all the time everyday. I read mostly Fox News but I also read Google's, Yahoo's, BBC, and even CNN just to get a different perspective. As a matter of fact, I read way too much news and I needed to cut down the time I'm wasting on them so I made a note to myself to stop reading news just recently. When my younger one saw me reading news just the other day, she asked me why I'm reading news because she saw the note to myself about not reading news.

But, on the first article, how is leaving a 17 year old alone in the room a problem? 17 is only 1 year from being an adult, so unless he or she has some type disability like the second case there is no way that's against the law unless the writer was just stating what happened. Also, it's laughable that Wind Creek's solution to the problem is putting up more signs everywhere telling parents not to do it. Really? Like that's going to work.

This is already getting too long, so I will answer more in subsequent posts unless I get tired and need to sleep. Hopefully, people won't get annoyed or mad with my long posts because this thread isn't about me or you.

I thought this forum's purpose is to help fellow gamblers on how to win.

It's really too bad the space is wasted with a bunch of useless arguments.

My wife is a CNA and she just messaged me this afternoon that just about everyone at her nursing home is infected and she is getting sick. She thinks she shouldn't come to AC this week.

Lousy Gambler, Thursday at 7:06 PM


Above is what I posted (#777) at 7:06 PM Thursday and that's 08/18 so you are CORRECT that she was NOT in AC on that date and she was at work.

And, this is why I said you don't seem to know how to add 1 + 1 and you are assuming too many things. Or, you could be skimming through the posts so fast that you didn't realize you are making a mistake with the date and time of the events.

Below is what I posted (#638) at 1:07 AM Wednesday and that's 08/17.


It's 1:05 AM and I have to step out to play my free bets at Borgata since they expire at 6 AM this morning and I have to get my free comps at Caesars before 2 AM, so if you reply to my questions I won't be able to answer back until I'm back to my room at Hard Rock.

Lousy Gambler, Wednesday at 1:07 AM


The time difference between 08/17 1:07 AM to 08/18 07:06 PM is more than 24 hours; it's 41 hours and 59 minutes to be exact. Did I say anything about what happened in that time frame of almost 2 days as to where my wife was? I don't think I did, but you can go through all my posts and see if I did. I can only guess that you probably assumed that my wife was at work the whole week this past week because of what I said in post #683 below.


She stays with us 2 weeks a month because of her job and my goal is to be able to win enough so she can quit working. Whether that's possible or not, I have no clue.


I never said that she works 2 weeks straight and then stays with us in AC for 2 weeks straight. You probably thought that and you would be wrong. If you didn't think that, then I'm wrong and I would have to apologize but I'm probably right based on what you said.

Please find the post where I said the exact same words as above and post the link to it so everyone can see the same thing. Good luck with that.

How what I said below in post #683 turned into what you said above is beyond me. I never said what days of the week she stays with us in AC and what days of the week she goes home to work. You assumed.

She stays with us 2 weeks a month because of her job and my goal is to be able to win enough so she can quit working. Whether that's possible or not, I have no clue.

Instead of me wasting time, why don't you spend your time doing it and post it here?

You waste a lot of time doing useless things like arguing about something when you are dead wrong, so it shouldn't be a problem for you to do.

I don't leave the kids alone in the room so whatever you are insinuating does not apply to me, so why would I waste more of my time asking something I don't need to?

I never saw anywhere that it's against the law to stay in casino hotels with the kids for 2 years, but you should look on the internet if there is such a law and let me know when you find one please.

Why in the world would I want to do that?

Do I sound that stupid to you?

If you admit to this board that you assumed too much and you were wrong for accusing me of something, then I may reconsider.

>Please go look at my posts and see if your timing makes any sense.

Please see my post #841 which should clarify your confusion that my comment above makes no sense.

If you are still confused, then I cannot help you any further.

Perhaps once you realize that my wife does not work 2 weeks straight at home and stays 2 weeks straight in AC, a light bulb will go on in your head.

>If she was already home Tuesday midnight on the 16th, she would had to work that afternoon on the 17th. Don't you think she would have texted me that afternoon on the 17th instead of the 18th that everyone is infected? COVID spreads fast, but not that fast.


I know I cannot clearly write in words what's in my head and there could have been some miscommunication, so let me try it again. Hopefully, it will be very clear to you this time.

I have no idea how fast COVID can spread, but I can't see how it could infect everyone all at once in less than 24 hours in a rather huge building that's my wife's work place with over 60 residents.

My wife texted me on Thursday (08/18) afternoon at 3:29 PM stating that "We are full of Covid in the unit at ...". Her work start at 3 PM, so she messaged me pretty much right after she got to work and found out that a lot of people were infected and tested positive. She was panicking when she called me on FaceTime because she didn't know what to do about coming back to AC this Sunday morning, 08/21. If she gets infected, then she isn't allowed in the casinos not to mention that she will infect us too. She said her test came out negative, but I'm not sure if that's the best way to tell since there could be some incubation period and she may not test positive until a few days later.

So, what I was saying is this.

If she went work on Wednesday afternoon on 08/17, then she would have messaged me on Wednesday when she got to work at 3 PM and found out that her workplace is full of COVID positives. But, she did not text me on Wednesday, so she may have went to work on Wednesday but either no one was infected or barely any one was infected as of then and therefore it was not a big deal for her and she didn't texted me about it on Wednesday.

So, the only way she would have waited to texted me on Thursday afternoon is if everyone all of sudden got infected from Wednesday to Thursday overnight in less than 24 hours and that's just not likely. It could happen, but not very likely because I don't think COVID spreads that fast.

Then, the only answer would be she went back to work on Thursday and she was actually with us overnight from Tuesday night to Wednesday morning sleeping with the kids and that's exactly what happened when I went to Borgata for an hour. So, the kids were never left alone contrary to what you were assuming.

She does NOT like going to work and any days she is not working, she is with us in the hotels.

There is no question that the infection happens very fast in a nursing home because the residences have constant physical contacts with the workers as the workers have to wash them, dress them, help them go to the bathroom, etc. They just can't avoid the contacts. If one worker is infected, then just about everyone gets infected eventually even if the infected residents are isolated. But, I'm just saying I highly doubt that every residents become infected overnight.

The nursing home residents are the highest risk group of people and they just can't avoid the contacts with the workers and all it takes is just one young worker bringing the virus and it just spreads like a wild fire. At one point, they started testing the workers as soon as they got to work, but that doesn't always work as there is that incubation period and they could be infecting before they test positive.

My wife's job is a back breaking work and that's why I don't want her to work if I can help it.

Hopefully, this clarifies what I was saying to you before.

Even if I spent all my waking hours explaining things to you, I'm afraid that it's all for naught as I just don't see a hope for you if you are constantly assuming and just think that you are always right when you aren't.

If you were really a coach at some point in your life, then I feel for whoever you were coaching because you are stubborn as a mule and just think that you are right about everything when that's just not the case. A good coach would have asked instead of just assuming things, don't you think?

You might like having this engagement but I don't because I'm wasting a lot of my time explaining things when I shouldn't have to. But, because I am a nice guy, I will do it just for you.

>If she texted you from home on Thursday,

She did NOT text me from home on Thursday. She was at work when she texted me on Thursday, so you are already wrong to even think that she texted me from home since I never said she texted me from home. How would she know if her work place was full of COVID without being at work to find out? Her co-worker may have called her and told her and that's possibility, but you will see from the picture below of her text that she was already at work.

Below picture was taken yesterday (Friday) when I was mulling over whether I should even bother replying to you, because I got the sense that you are an impossible person to convince no matter what I say.





The background TV is playing LLWS where Canada was playing Japan and it was in the 6th inning. You should be able to deduce by the time that game was played and in the 6th inning along with the time on my phone of 6:44 PM that everything is legit. I had to blur out a part of the text since it shows her work place name and that's a private information that I cannot divulge.

Honestly, I don't even know why I'm doing any of this to satisfy someone I don't even know.

I'm sure a lot of you are thinking what's wrong with me for even doing all of this, but it's to prove to everyone that coach belly isn't right. Nothing more.


>what week did she mean by "this week"?


Isn't it obvious to you what "this week" is that she was referring to? Below is what I said in post #777 and I was simply saying what she said on the phone. She works every weekend and she worked on Thursday so she has to work Friday and Sunday, and therefore she definitely cannot come this weekend and for that matter this week. So, when she said "this week", she meant the week starting Sunday, 08/21, but she was leaving her work to come to AC right after her Saturday's shift, so technically it was still this week to her and not next week.


My wife is a CNA and she just messaged me this afternoon that just about everyone at her nursing home is infected and she is getting sick. She thinks she shouldn't come to AC this week.

Last edited: Thursday at 7:06 PM
Lousy Gambler, Thursday at 7:06 PM

And what would that be?

I'm really curious since I have no idea what's in your head that's "The truth" when there is nothing but assumptions and false notions in your head as you have been wrong about everything.

My story has been always the same and there is nothing I need to do to make it even more straight.

Don't you think it's what's in your head that needs to be straightened out instead?

You would get your feelings hurt even more if you read what I said about you in that poll, so you can go look for it yourself.

 

Keep flooding the board, LG, you'll soon reach your much desired three hundred posts.

 

I said to myself that I need to stop insulting you since it's apparently triggering even more of whatever syndrome that you have.

Do you have a proof that my kids were left alone? That's right. It's just some assumption in your head.

It's too bad that I didn't take a photo of my wife sleeping in the room with the kids, because she sleeps almost naked. Please don't assume anything because what I just said. I'm pretty sure it's not against the law to sleep in bra and panty only even if there are young kids present. I could be wrong.

>or wandering around AC looking for AP slot plays.

The fact that you even made the above statement proves that your mind is not very stable and you assume WAY TOO MUCH. Something must be disconnected in your head. Were you kicked in the head by a mule when you were young?

If you read my posts carefully on this thread, you would have known that I don't know much about AP slot plays so I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Sure, I can wonder around amongst the slot machines since I need the exercise anyway, but I don't have a clue as to what I should do.

You would also have noticed that I said I don't believe in it whatever it may be. That led me to insulting someone when I should not have as it was very dumb of me. As it turns out, he was a very nice person only trying to warn a friend on this board.

I saw his post trying to help others about AP'ing slots, but I haven' had the chance to read it carefully because I'm so busy wasting my time responding to your asinine posts. I am grateful to him since he didn't have to do it, so why can't you do something nice like that instead of just playing some detective role on an anonymous board? Don't you know how to do slot AP? Don't you know how to do any AP? Don't you want to spend time teaching something that I can learn that could help me becoming a better player in anything? I can get you a free hotel room in AC in return. It looks like you are in Bethlehem area, so that's not too far from AC.

LOL

I like your sense of humor a lot.

But I cannot tell for sure if you are being funny or criticizing me for being stupid.

 

I see slot AP's everywhere across the country. But they are not thick as thieves away from the big markets. I pretty much stay away from LV, AC and Mississippi. But there can be a lot of competition in the casinos around big cities like OKC, Tulsa, Albuquerque, Phoenix. I concentrate of the out of the way places that most AP's don't go to. But I still see AP's in even those spots. They are easy to identify because they are dependent on the same thing I am.

Its the recreational players that play the machines in negative mode, drive them into positive mode, then get up and leave. You can't make money as a slot AP if that is not happening. There are a variety of reasons the rec players leave machines in positive mode....They don't know....they have to leave....they don't care....get tired of the machine.

How to identify other slot AP's:

1. The exploitable machines have several bet levels with each level having their own set of numbers. I have to check each bet level to see if any of the bet levels are in positive mode. Other AP's have to do the same thing so when I see someone punching up the bet levels on exploitable machines I know they are an AP.

2. When I'm in a strange casino, find a play, sit down on it and start spinning there can be someone show up and stand behind me as I'm playing. They are a slot AP that don't know I'm a slot AP. So they are waiting to see if I get up and leave them a strong play. Or....I see them sweating a rec player on an exploitable machine hoping they will get up from the machine. In which case the AP will swoop in and grab the seat.

3. The slot AP always plays on turbo speed/uses the speed stop. To an AP time is money. I just want to get the play over with and move on to the next one. To make decent money it's a thing of how many plays can you get in a day. If you are playing slow you are "burning daylight" as John Wayne said in the movie The Cowboys. So someone playing on turbo speed fits the profile of an AP.

4. You never see a slot AP playing a machine in negative mode. So when you see a player on a few different machines and they are always in positive mode when he is playing them....that fits the profile of a slot AP.

Some slot AP's claim that they can go unnoticed by other AP's in a casino. Thats a delusion. I recognize a slot AP just like a skunk recognizes another skunk when they run into each other in the woods. The above 4 factors easily identifies someone as a slot AP.

Yes, there are slot AP's that travel like I do. I recently met an AP in Wendover that was from AC....and a couple of months ago I met an AP in Minnesota that was from LV. But most are local yocals. They have their hometown casinos to work and don't travel. And some are just weekend warriors. You never see them during the week.



3. If a slot AP will sweat me while I'm playing

 

You should talk to my kids for a few minutes.

Then, you would know how good I'm taking care of them and they love me to death as I love them just as much.

You are just assuming a lot of things thinking nothing but negative things about my arrangement just because the hotels I'm staying happens to have casinos with them.

Since there are casinos where I'm staying, I know you think I'm a degenerate gambler gambling all the time. Nothing is further from the truth and I can prove that to you if pit bosses would let me take pictures of their player rating system.

I know they track every thing about every player. I just don't know how far they go back on the rating system.

When I asked them in the past, they've shown me what day and time I bought into tables, how much I bought in, how much I won or lost, and when I stopped playing. They have the dates, times, and all money transactions.

I wish I could take photos of my plays for a full month. Then, post them here. When I talked to a host, I saw something that's different and it looked like it covered a longer date range. That will probably do if they would let me take a photo of it.

It will show that I played almost none for a whole month jeopardizing my comped rooms. But, you see, I don't really care if they cut me off from the comped rooms as if that happens then I would just go home. I had more than my fill of staying in casino hotels for so long. It's really no big deal as it's nothing more than a very long extended vacation.

If I wanted to gamble so much, then I will just go to PARX which is less than 10 minutes from my house.

Yes, that's a fact.

Aren't I making a poor choice right now responding to all your posts? I definitely have a gambling disorder.

You must have went to GA. I never once thought that I should. Damn, I definitely have a gambling disorder since I should have went to GA but didn't. That's a very poor choice I made.

I have to apologize for making all these stupid posts that people have to weed through to get to the important and relevant posts.

I will get to the end as quickly as possible and don't post anymore about it. Sorry again.

My story entertains you? I'm glad that my time wasn't all wasted.

But, you really need other hobbies besides coming to this board.

That isn't going to happen, but you are welcome to search the internet since you seem to have lots of time.

Ok, I'm done responding to Mr. Belly.

I won't be responding to him no matter what he says next. I regret terribly for spending so much time explaining when I know nothing will get through his head since his mind is already made up.

I was going to post my reservation spreadsheets which has my wife's work schedule which then proves that she was in the hotel with the kids on Tuesday and Wednesday, but I'm sure he will tell me I made it all up so there is no point.

Sorry for cluttering up this thread.

coach belly,

I have to thank you.

Because of you, I'm now at 170 posts with this post, so I'm more than 1/2 way there so I can PM.

coach belly,

I just now looked at your profile and it said you have only 69 posts and you are from NJ.

I was going to ask you where in NJ you are from, but then I said I wasn't going to respond to you no matter what you say next so please disregard.

 

I was trading posts with Rob in 2005 on freeVPfree. I followed the exchanges there between Rob and Archimedes in real time. Except arci's username was moejacks on freeVPfree. And Shadowman on LVA and videopoker.com.

I read all of Rob's posts on vpFREE and freeVPfree gong back to 2002 but didn't start posting until 2004. I followed Rob on the LVA, WoV and videopoker.com forums.

So red, your claim that "except for Archimedes" you followed Rob longer than anyone else doesn't hold up.

To put the Skip Hughes obit in perspective....Skip had some troll in him to. He said some nasty things about Rob. So I don't think Rob was a big fan of Hughes.

Now, red, you know you tried to jack me up in a PM about these "serious video poker players who have bones to pick with Rob" and how I was "unaware of them." Quite the contrary. I remember all of the VP players that trolled back at Rob in the various forums back in the day. I've read more posts by them than the law allows but they gave up years ago. They haven't exchanged posts with Rob in years.

But those "serious video poker players" do slip you a PM every once in awhile. You should tell them to take their "bones to pick with Rob" public, i.e, start posting in the forums about it instead of slinking around behind the scenes.

I have one more thing to say about those "serious video poker players who have bones to pick with Rob." You can bet your ass they still read him today. Even Jean Scott told me she follows Rob just to see what he says about her. LOL!

Take a look at VCT right now. It's a fricking ghost town since Rob left. Everyone is over here at GF. Why? Because Rob is here. Rob draws a crowd. And red, you guys are living proof of that.

 

I have never been to either Dakota states. I think it's really cold up there, isn't it?

What was that movie's name about a cop and some crazy guy wood chipping a dead person?

First of all, thank you so much for spending your time to explain it all.

I read through it all and I have some questions, but I will read the rest of your new posts and see if you answered any before I start asking. Thank you again.

I found it. It's "Fargo". That was a strange movie but kind of funny.

 

Fargo was the name of the movie. Francis McDormand got the Oscar for it.

 

Yes, I found it right before you posted it. Thanks.

When my wife is here this morning, I will look around the casino floor here at Borgata and see if there are Regal Riches and Cashman Bingo. If there are other AP slot machines I should look for, then can you please tell me so I can map out their locations too while walking around? Thank you.

1. What to play. Are you talking about what machines to play?
2. When to play it As you said when a machine goes into positive mode, correct?
3. Why you should play it. I'm not sure what you mean by this.
4. How to play it. Are you talking about how much to bet per spin and how fast it should be spun?
5. When to quit playing it. When a machine goes into negative mode. Right?

What should I be looking for on the machines to know it's in positive mode or negative mode?

I read somewhere that even if a machine is in positive mode that you may still lose. Is that a correct statement?

Its extremely rare that the machine will go into negative mode when you have exactly zero credits left. That's why a pro always cashes out a ticket. You lost me on this statement. Are you saying there is a way to stop a machine from going into negative mode? I don't see the correlation between the two sentences. Can you please explain it differently?

>She works every weekend and she worked on Thursday so she has to work Friday and Sunday, and therefore she definitely cannot come this weekend and for that matter this week. So, when she said "this week", she meant the week starting Sunday, 08/21, but she was leaving her work to come to AC right after her Saturday's shift, so technically it was still this week to her and not next week.


I was tired and I made some typos.

I should clarify it before coach belly jumps all over me for the mistakes. If I made any other typos then I'm not going to worry about it.


>She works every weekend and she worked on Thursday so she has to work Friday and Sunday,

>She works every weekend and she worked on Thursday and she has to work Friday and Saturday.

Moderator has a tough job.

It looks like he or she just combined all of my posts from this morning into one. Thank you for not knocking down my number of posts.

Hi Moderator or Admin,

How come I don't have the Like button like the other posters have?

I have buttons for only Quote and Reply on the bottom right hand side of each post.

Is that some type of option that I don't know about that you have to set so that I have the Like button too?

I tried all three browsers that I have, Chrome, Edge, and Firefox and they all do the same, i.e. missing the Like button.

 

Nobody believes that.

That's obviously because it doesn't exist, you made it all up.

Otherwise, you wouldn't need to hide the truth.

 

Note to self.

Don’t talk to delusional people.

That’s going to be hard but you can do it.

 

The subject matter of all of UNKewlJ's thousands of repetitive posts consist of these topics only:

1. MDawg, R.Singer, LousyGambler, and anyone else who is not I could not possibly be winning, because I say so!

2. Even though my feeble casino play barely rates for a free hot dog, I know it's impossible to win and still get comp'ed for any length of time because that's not the way Vegas works, again, because I say so!

Bosox: KewJ, You are like a fucken sick talking parrot.

The other moribund cow on here, MrV, isn't far behind with having the same identical repetitive subject matter!

Both of these s spend their lives commenting on what I do.

 

Hi Mickey,

We are at a church but I could not go into to the mass because the church parking lot is full and I have to wait in the car so we don’t get towed.

We are going to a brunch afterwards and even though I am very tired, I am going to look for the machines that you mentioned. I could ask my wife to look but then I risk her playing something that’s most likely in negative mode. Hopefully, Borgata has those 2 machines but if not then I will have to roam Harrah’s and Golden Nugget and see if they have them. Thank you again for your help with this.