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Discussion in 'Introductions' started by gizmotron, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. SteveChambers

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    Whatever you say, JIZZmo.
     
  2. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Another deluded fool battered senseless after decades of gambling, casinos are full of them. Amiable chaps, until you talk 'a system, then it's, "oh boy, you poor bastard".

    He doesn't need the money folks, yet is asking (begging) for suckers to send him $200, purely for his time, like :D

    I forgot about the Ed Thorp name check, craves to be remembered as the same, ask your next of kin to slap it on your tombstone..


    Pimp Sellers the cancerous pimple on the arse of the gambling community.
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Junk-in-your-pants King, That's kind of like Jack in the Box Queen. If you are in fact the de facto commander here, guarding your command post, then yes, that threatened look on your face is revealing. I'd look into what being needy is all about, there's probably some abuse in your past where you played the role of Narcissistic supply or you were a co-dependent enabler. It would truly be funny if you are nothing more than a measly Narcissist. At the very least you qualify as a drama queen.
     
  4. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Not really, but I did hound you GamblersGlen for some time when you played the same game years back, kinda proves your fantasy hasn't really been good for ya, because now you're at it again.

    Poor gizmo his dastardly plan to wind in some more suckers into sending him $200 has back-fired. He'll have to flog some US coins to keep his head afloat, no wait by his own admission he's already done that, what do you have left Gizz?

    Nothing huh, okay so this explains how we arrived here. Since the history of the game, only Gizz is the bonfide genius of this game. Any takers for sending this deluded deranged fool who harbors thoughts of being the next Ed Thorp a few dollars so he can pay his bills, buy his meds?
     
  5. mightymike

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    welcome! i'm interested in hearing more about your ideas, but i ain't paying for shit! lol
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You don't have to, I'm working on the proof now. Proof is all anybody is interested in anyway. I figured out a way to prove it without giving it away. You can try to reverse engineer the bets and figure it out for yourself. It's everything but the how. I do love it when a plan comes together. You can ask anyone here that hates me selling it to guide you to my fully disclosed claims. Those are the freebies I dropped on everyone just to watch them reject it.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No need for that Junk in the Spandex. I've already been paid for my time. It only took me several days to write the information down and to create the software. It's like before. I even invited several people in for no cost this time. I wanted them to be a part of this moment. Takes guts, don't you think, to stick one's neck out this far? I should have the AI interface and solutions done in a few days. Then I'll let you big mouths power test it in real time.
     

  8. Mickey Crimm

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    Thats very good, gizmo. You know Ship Rock in New Mexico. I'll change my avatar. And anyone is welcome to make a guess as to where it is.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's looks like the Columbia River Gorge, I lived in Hood River and Mosier for almost ten years. It could be the Amazon for all I know...

    Isn't that a barge I see, that's the overlook picnic area just on the east end of Hood River. That would be Swell City just out of view to the right.
     
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  10. Mickey Crimm

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    You are spot on again. Amazing.
     
  11. AxelWolf

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    I asked a few legitimate questions. However you seem to be more interested in arguing with others.
    Do you mind answering?
     
  12. gizmotron

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    Oops, I mean looking just west of Hood River.
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's based on a concept coined by another called "educated guessing." There is no way to know the future. There is however a way to know if you are experiencing a coincidence. As far as you can know, you can still be in an existing continuing trend. But you can't know how long it will last. You can however speculate that it will last at least one spin longer. You might not be right, but you have a 61% to 64% chance of being right anyway. That's all you need to succeed with my method. The math boys here will say that it does not matter, that everything will balance out no matter what bet selection is chosen. The only debatable point is, can that be the truth, or is something yet proven possibly the truth. And for that I'm a slime ball for researching it for 20 years, drawing a conclusion about it all, and actually sharing it openly, but in a deliberately semi hidden form as to make the secrets difficult but not impossible to understand. And then I taught ten people five years ago exactly what I had discovered. As I had assumed, it did not have a large effect on the gambling world as one person thought it would. I was right. I said there would be no danger in a few people knowing. I got it out there and then two years later published it as described before. So now I have a few students again. Only this time I made it all very simple to understand and to execute. In this form it is my opinion that it is a danger to the gambling world. It's too simple and too easy to understand. In fact, it's programmable as an example of a working algorithm. That's the thirty second elevator speech.
     
  14. AxelWolf

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    I assume you also play it yourself?
    Do you ever play in Las Vegas, if not where? Does it work on card roulette?

    Can your system be applied to other games like craps? If not why?

    What percentages are we talking about, or how many units on average will someone make per hour/number of spins?
    How risky is your system? how long does it take before someone will start seeing a profit? We talking daily profits? Or is it something with a small percentage where you might have long periods of losing perhaps a month of losing or breaking even?

    How and where does one get the lessons or whatever, do you coach people in person who buy the system?
     

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    Gents, I think you are being a bit harsh. I'm not Gizmo's advocate, nor his student, but at least he is offering something for the money. Putting a 'sucker' slogan on everyone is too much generalizing. As far as I know, you get a tracking software plus his theories in written as well as after-sale support. I mean, you will receive a product and a service for your money from an established member of the roulette online society, even though you should better not expect the holy grail.

    Looking at it from different angle, I remember that

    - I have paid more than that on antivirus software, but I get a virus once in a while.
    - I have bought a car and it's engine broke down after few years.
    - I have visited a restaurant, but I was hungry when I got home.
    - I got ill and took a prescribed medicine, but it did not help me...

    Does this mean everyone out there is either 'scammer' and 'sucker'?
     
  16. gizmotron

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    1.) "I assume you also play it yourself?" -- Yes, I play in real casinos with it.

    2.) "Do you ever play in Las Vegas, if not where?" -- No & West Coast

    3.) "Does it work on card roulette?" -- Yes, I've used it extensively in Southern California and Northern California

    4.) "Can your system be applied to other games like craps? If not why?" -- I can if you stick with the even chance bets.

    5.) "What percentages are we talking about," -- I play to win a reasonable goal of 25% of my session bankroll. That bankroll is $500 per session. So I'm happy with $125 or a little more depending on the bet that gets me to my goal.

    6.) "or how many units on average will someone make per hour/number of spins?" -- This is a skilled method based on playing experience. My school is specifically designed to get you that playing experience before you ever go to any casino. It's your responsibility to learn to be skillful. Having answered that I reach my goal in 1 to 3 hours of live play. That's about 90 to 120 spins on the high side.

    7.) "How risky is your system?" -- If you have gambling problems where you have discipline issues then it is massively risky. You will reach your goal every time you play if you become skilled at what I teach. It'd not luck or a killer sequence that is your enemy, it's yourself that you must conquer. I have made it simple enough to use simple logic and to stay focused.

    8.) "how long does it take before someone will start seeing a profit?" -- I'm seeing students getting good results after just a few days of study. There is no way in hell that anyone can master this in a few weeks. Every student must take it into a casino and risk money. That is the only experience that counts. How each student does depends on their gambling experience before they became a student. I can't teach playing experience of actual play in a casino. If you were an expert like me, with all my thousands of hours of playing experience, then you would see a profit after 2 gambling sessions. But what if you have no experience at all? You need to know how to lose properly. There is no way to avoid that perfect sequence of strait down losses. You must know how to recover from that by first limiting the damage. You must understand that this is a way to grind out a winning strategy.

    9.) "We talking daily profits?" -- If you go every day then yes. I don't. It takes concentration and that can wear you down in just one session. I always rest several days between sessions if I'm very active. And I can work at my computer for 14 hours per day writing very complicated source code. I don't mess around with concentration of the randomness. It's how I make my bet selections.

    10.) "Or is it something with a small percentage where you might have long periods of losing perhaps a month of losing or breaking even?" -- You will be trained to see opportunities and to crush the casino during extreme opportunities. You stay out of the common pitfalls of downtrends. If you have chemical gambling issues then you can't stay in your logical mind. The chemicals in your body will shift your mind to different centers of the brain and you will play less reactively to losing. That is a proven reality among some players. I can't make you stay on course, only you can do that.

    11.) "How and where does one get the lessons or whatever, do you coach people in person who buy the system?" You learn online and you download my practice software and perfect your own skills. The school is a self taught course that you take yourself through. There are about 318 posts currently where both me and my students asked and received answers to every question that they asked. Because the method is simple, none of them are having difficulty learning it. And everyone accepts the idea that practice is the way to get very good at it.

    Because it actually works you will have to come to grips with the power that greed may have on you. That tends to lead to bad judgment, and that can lead to making bad bets. Keep your head and you can become skillful too.

    There is no way that this will remain a secret. It will have a profound effect on the gambling community and will dominate every gambling forum in the world. That will be very interesting to watch. It will be free, and people will hate me for telling. Funny, they hate me now for telling and getting paid for it. They are going to hate me because the casinos will be forced to make some kind of adjustment because of it. This is the primary reason I'm doing it. I hate math Nazis, the mathBoys that have lied about me and my beliefs for years. It's all documented on these forums. I will enjoy watching them eat shit. They are so righteous now, they have their accepted science of probability theory to lean on. We'll see, We'll see.
     
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    Why are you selling this system and not just betting higher units? It makes no sense your only betting enough to make a few hundred per session. Actually It makes no sense your selling it at all. You can't claim you're trying to give back to the community or whatever people like to say because you are charging.

    There's little or no heat on roulette, they will roll out the red carpet for bigger player's in many locations, especially in LV.

    AAMOF there's things like Organic Roulette that's available at big limits in many casino's around the world. There's not even a pit boss or anything. It includes a complete list of stats and everything.

    There's much more value with negotiating deals with the casino and mailed offers with larger bets so it boggles my mind why someone who has a system that wins 25% of your session BR daily wouldn't be betting at least 1k per spin. That's 10's of thousands in action and the casinos will be more than happy to have you win or lose.

    There's been a long standing offer for proof of a legitimate gambling system and a big prize money attached. Either mathematical proof or via live actual play.
    Michal Bluejay offers it on his site and Michael Shackleford used to offer it. I believe if you beat MB 'so challenge he will also promote your system on his site. Why not take on one of the challenges and prove it works and make 30k doing it? IIRC he will also sign a non disclosure agreement. I cannot imagine why someone selling a system wouldn't want to prove it works and have the major gaming sites help promote it. You could charge 10x the amount and easily get it.
     
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    It depends on what the person is claiming. If they are making untrue claims or promises then yes it's a scam and people are getting scammed. People are buying a dream and a promise to learn how to make easy money, not software. That's smoke and mirrors.

    From what I'm reading in his post, it sounds like if it's doesn't work then it's your fault and you must have self control issues, gambling issues or whatever. It sounds like a complicated money management hit and run
    system. What people need to understand is its very easy to get up a few units if you have a small win goal of 1 unit and bigger loss limit of like 20 units. Even with something like martingale it has a very high chance to succeed you can easily get it up to about a 90% success rate.

    Hell if done right playing certain games you have a good chance of making 75%+ of your Bankroll.

    There's something to be said about the fact that there has never been a proven working betting system on a -EV game. Now we have a guy claiming his system can beat one of the worst table games in the casino.

    Without 100% proof I think it's fraud by deseption and should be illegal to sell such a system.
     
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  19. gizmotron

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    I'm dying, got it. I've been living with atrial fibrillation since 2009. It's caused by heart failure. So how much money do I need or that I can get?

    I'm not selling it, I'm putting a road block in the way of it going viral. That $200 fee is just the right price to bring out the human nature in all of us. If it can be proven that is works, and I'm working on that now, I get one more challenge in my life that makes the book on me very thick. I'm doing this because I have been successful in succeeding at so many diverse accomplishments in my life that frankly it's too numerous to bother informing anyone. Strangers never believe me and those that did it all with me in part are scattered all over the place. I don't have a Bucket List, I have a full dump truck of "been there done that experiences." If I have to I can prove that too. But why? My first year as a rock climber I told people that I knew that I climbed this or I climbed that. It was as if I let a fart or something like that. They had no interest in hearing about my experiences. So in year one of my adventures I learned to do it all for myself. Don't bother with the telling anything to people that have no appreciation for such things. But the people that were into each of my favorite activities, those people get it.

    You people get gambling and a lot of you get Roulette. This is what I do.


    There must be a bucket list kind of a website where you can show off your accomplishments, possibly even validating them. It would be a disgusting display of arrogance and braggadocio to those couch potatoes that wasted their entire lives. Want to see a glimpse of what I mean? Watch the new Point Break movie. That's just the physical stuff too. I was one of the first extreme poly athletes in America, back before endorsements and Youtube. I was done by 1989. There were very few extreme athletes back then and almost no cross trainers. Some people did two things very well. I did far more. The stuff I did back then was considered state of the art. Today kids blow my stuff off the stage as some kind of practice drill.
     
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    Wow, you really are the expert on blowing it. 100% proof means that you get what you want. That's all this is about. The software is the proof. A working algorithm, fully disclosed source code written in a well established open source language, is the proof. It is in fact mathematical proof. You want it all spelled out so that the public doesn't need or have any value in purchasing a trade craft secret in the first place. Why don't you demand Coke proves their secret recipe for the drink before they sell that? That's right. You want everything to be worthless and free.

    You spandex boys make unsubstantiated claims. Know why I know that? Because you don't know what I have and I do. So you should be illegal for claiming that you know everything. How naive you sound. This is the world where banks were forced to sell sub prime loans under threat of prosecution. And then demonized for doing what they were extorted to do by the government in the first place. But that's not all of it. They are now fined for doing what they were threatened to do in the first place, and by the same politicians who now take that fine money and distribute it to all their political party friends. That's the scam. I'll bet you blame the 1% and are clueless what the 8% and the 92% are. That's by design too. You are expected to be stupid. It's the plan. Most people are suckers to the plan. It should be illegal to be stupid and to still be able to vote. Uniformed voters will elect the next president. But you hold court at the consensus of public opinion. What a grand achievement.
     

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