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it addresses the point about guns. Its not the availability of guns that are the issue...its the people involved.
Some people are raised to be more violent than others.
Taking away guns wont reduced violent crime. The people who are raised to be violent will find other ways to impose their violent will on others with or without guns.

Andf it wont change till people stop using the past as a crutch.....and sacrifice for the future by rasing children in a responsible way and emphasizing education.either in a discipline or a trade.

http://newsone.com/1195075/children-single-parents-u-s-american/

http://newsone.com/1195075/children-single-parents-u-s-american/

3/4 of all households...one parent coupled with a high high school drop out rate is the reason....its not the ease of gun purchase.

single high school drop outs giving birth to eventual high school drop outs is the recipe for disaster of places like chicago....its not the ease of gun purchase.

 

DEVELOPING: FBI reopens investigation into Hillary Clinton’s
use of private email server

The cynical interpretation of this is that Comey is running an interference topic to take the attention off the WikiLeaks emails.

 

Well you probably know your history better than I, however this is not my understanding, or how it has ever been explained to me by my Black Americans friends. The North wanted to abolish slavery, the slave owners in the Southern states didn't and roped in all able bodies to do their bidding when the North decided to bring to an end of the barbarism. If it is not a racist flag, then why the fuck was it pulled off Government buildings after the Charleston tragedy.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/22/charleston-killings-confederate-flag-debate

6 Reasons People Claim Waving the Confederate Flag Isn’t Racist – Squashed
https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/07/confederate-flag-is-racist/

The Confederate Flag Is a Racist Symbol. Just Ask the KKK.
https://newrepublic.com/article/122216/confederate-flag-still-flying-today-because-kkk

You are one of many barriers to integration in ameriKa, it will take generations before there is any chance of harmony, from both sides.

Fuck that racist flag, what it stands for and what it represents.

The second part is bullshit. After the second world war, the Jews with the allies backing were looking for a homeland, they considered land in South America or Canada, Kenya, Uganda of all places, before finally settling on the Middle East and then inflicting on the Palestinians what the Germans had done to them.

Yeah okay, ever been to Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain extremely prosperous nations, they even provide free health care to their subjects. Same could be said about Saudi Arabia, however it is a very totalitarian state, Libya was also very prosperous, free health care and education, but it's all fucked up now thanks to the neo conservatives who thought ameriKan democracy would be good for the Middle East. Oh yeah, Jordan is cool also, not everywhere needs to consist of glass sky scrappers.

And who nominated the Western countries as beacons of society and what all nations should aspire to? As an example just because the indigenous population of Australia didn't aspire to get an education, own property, a car, earn a fat wage, live a 9 ~ 5 existence. Rather where successful hunters and gathers living off the land for over 40,000~60,000 years (long time that, isn't it, considering Christianity is only 2000 years old).

Then the white man turned up, proceeded to fuck up the land by burning it off, turning the interior into useless desert, then arrogantly decided, hey you Abo's should be living like us, in a house, acquiring an education, getting a real job. Same applies to the Maori in NZ, who have integrated more than their Australian cousins. They are judged a success or failure based on the white man's way of life, which in some cases was totally alien to them, ditto South American Amazon tribes.

What the white man excels at, is the introduction to indigenous populations to the delights of booze / glue sniffing, destroying their normal way of life, stepping back, criticising and deciding they need our intervention. I'm sure if left alone, the indigenous people of Australia, New Zealand, North America, African tribes, you name it, wouldn't have been savvy to put a man on the moon, develop nuclear weapons, but who is judging if that is a good or bad thing. One thing you can be sure of, guaranteed the white man will not exist for 40000 years in Australia.

You live in your world, let them live in theirs, nobody can state who is wrong or right, nobody can judge what is a success or failure until it is over. If a nuclear holocaust takes place next week, which leaves Western nations wiped out and uninhabitable for 100's of years, can the African villager state, "fucked up western culture", while they return to living off the land. I'm sure the Egyptians, Romans, Aztecs had the same opinion of them selves.

 

No, I've never been there, nor have I any desire to.

They are all flash in the pans fueled by The West's thirst for oil.

Riddle me this, Apologist: what the hell have those countries contributed to the world recently in terms of science, literature or anything else of use?

 

This is good. Anthony Weiner pulls boner and dicks Hillary. Turns out that HilltARD sent that sex-pervert classified documents from here server to THE BIG WIENER. OOPS! That's more documents that she lied about and it was not the Russians this time. October surprise, yes.

 

So youare saying , because the community doesnt trust the cops, the young men drop out of school, and the young women spread their legs and get pregnant before finding a stable man while also dropping out of school........and the hatred of cops prevents the single moms from being active int he education of their children, the hatred of cops prevents the single parent from nurturing and reading to their child.....and then dropping them off at the school to educate at the age of 5. The hatred of cops makes kids give into peer pressure and not excel in school for fear of being called "acting white". The hatred of cops allows the single moms to give up on supervising the kids, allowing them to get into trouble, allowing them to underperform in school with the only consequence being that the school holds back the student for a year or expells them for improper conduct.
The hatred of cops forces people not to become active in local politics and vote out local politicians that dont cater to their needs.,,,that dont institute changes. The hatred of cops and slavery seem to be very convenient excuses for poor behavior that ensures failure.

I am sure japanese in the 1940's hated cops and our govt.....yet today the japanese in this country are very successful, resourceful people. They didnt use their unfortunate circumstances and miserable treatment as a crutch. They continued to have stable 2 parent households, and continued to stress education...stress discipline, stress striving for success. Success can be achieved by communities that hate the cops......and in the case of the japanese...the feeling was mutual with the rest of society's treatment of them. Being asian in the 1940's-50's was not easy. Being unemployable in many cases. Mistrusted. Called names.
And what came of it?? Well we dont have neighborhoods of high crime japanese 75 years later.
WE dont have neighborhoods of high crime jews accross the country. There was a time where immigrants that spoke broken english, like jews, polish, italiains......were mocked, and mistreated.Kids made fun of in school. Adults mocked .....but they survived ok on the backs of stable family and stable value systems.

 

There is plenty of undeveloped land to house the palestinians in Syria and Egypt. They are not overcrowded countries. Yet their own people wont take them. They want the land that has been developed by the jews. And they kindly ask for it in many unique ways...such as blowing up children in school buses, hand grenading schools, shooting up street cafes, shooting missiles to civilian neighborhoods. The terrorist attacks are in the hundreds.....in a country the size of new jersey. There is not a family in Israel that has not been touched by the giref from losing a loved one from terrorism. Unlike in the united states where 99 percent of the people feel that terrorism only happens to other people. It will take a few more years and a few more dozen terrorist attacks here before enough people are personally touched by terrorism.in the usa.......where they can identify with what Isreal goes through daily....where enough people feel the pain of death of friends and family.

Imagine if NJ in this country, had hundreds of terrorist attacks over a period of a 50 years from the same group of people. I would think that those(THE TERRORIST RACEOF PEOPLE) that remain in NJ would have their lives be a miserable hell. Fuck the constitution......their lives would be totally fucked up if they showed their face...to the point where if they even were caught purchasing a book of matches....they would be shot on sight.

 

This is funny. A fucking Englishman is lecturing me on all the ills of the world. Clean up your own fucking mess, limey. The English did more to fuck the world up than any other country that ever existed.

I'm from Mississippi, a state that's 60% white and 40% black. Yeah, sure, you call it the apartheid of America. But this is how ignorant and stupid you are. Mississippi public schools became the most integrated school system in the nation in 1971, that's 45 years ago. And per the Voting Rights Act of 1965, that's 51 years ago, Mississippi has more black elected officials that any other state in the Union.

PS The black politicians have turned out to be just as corrupt and any of the white politicians ever were.

 

Some of ancient Egypt's contributions to the world include the 24-hour day, a 365-day calendar year and systematic medicine. In addition, ancient Egyptians were among the first to use mathematical numbers, and they introduced simple machines like the ramp and lever.

1. Algebra (named after its inventor, Al-Gibar)
2. Medicine (before the Arabs, people's approaches to medicine were highly unscientific and superstitious- the Arabs started using the scientific method when they experimented with medicine)
3. The composite bow (a bow with pulleys at either end, making the bow much easier to pull.)
4. Techniques in sailing (the Arabs invented the "triangle" sail, replacing the square sails used by Europeans)
5. Astronomy (used for navigational purposes)
6. Unique concepts of steel forging (The steel made in Damascus was so light and flexiable that there have been reports of Damascus blades "being capable of floating on water". While this is probably just an exaggeration, only recently have scientists been able to rediscover some of the techiques used by the Arabs)

You can't be fucking serious, Isreals treatment of Palestinians is nothing less than genocide, why they fuck should Palestinians go elsewhere it is their land, the land is developed after the systematic murder or relocation of the inhabitants.

 

Nobody is lecturing anybody, call it for what it fucking is, ameriKa is fucked up and old bigoted farts like you don't help, as I say it will take a few more generations before things possibly can improve. Yes the English colonists did do more to fuck the world up than any other country.

 

pick a country....including england.......were the indigenous people replaced?

If you go back far enough you can agonize about the first people occupying a land being occupied by someone else.

why doesnt england give the land back to the celt?

is there some time limit that I dont know about

 

I saw the movie Mississippi Burning...it was great...the acting was fantastic...it almost made some of those inbred shitheads appear to have IQ's over 25

 

Hey butt-heads, we have an election in less than two weeks. How about putting down the Muskets and stop trying to fight the civil war all over again. The wheels are falling off the libTrain.

 

I rest MrV's case

where have these geniuses been ..i dont know...maybe the last 1000 years?........did they all just turn retarded

 

Oops, sorry for the double post.

I'm not talking about Israel and the Palestinians, I am talking about, and I quote: "what the hell have those countries contributed to the world recently in terms of science, literature or anything else of use?"

Note the use of the world "recently."

I am well aware of the contributions made thousands of years ago, but my focus is on today.

Nothing worth a flying fuck to the rest of the world is coming from the Arabs and the Africans except oil/ natural resources.

No cutting edge intellectual / scientific discoveries, no manufactured products, nothing except strife, hate, and hopelessness.

Sure, America has problems, England has problems, but unlike Arabs and Africans we use our brains and our resources to create, to discover, and to manufacture things which the rest of the world can use.

 

JK......for another thread.....can I ask your age generally....I have a question on a period of music in england.....but only if u are from that time period.

 

Certainly gone off on a lot of tangents this Hillary v's Trump thread.

Horse shit, or if you prefer tokenism. Voting rights act of 1965 what a joke, how do you think Bush got elected? Due to 100's if not thousands of Black people being denied a vote by Geb and his croonies when they turned up at the voting stations in the state of Florida. Voting rights my arse, ditto the school system, what was the point, when you had to be bussed in for your own safety and if it did kick off because white prejudice the PO-lice turned a blind eye. Lindon Johnson could sign all the acts he wanted, didn't make a blind bit of difference to those on the ground, racist red-neck sheriffs, cops, town hall officials.

When you have white college kids spouting so much venom "burn nigger", were does it stem from? Is it "white mans fear", from their parents, do they truly feel a the colour of a mans skin make them inferior, superior. What is it that makes them feel superior to the likes of Michael Jordan, Barkley, fiffy cents, Combs, MayWeather, Oprah, Carl Lewis, Sugar Ray the late Michael Jackson, Marvin Gaye, Martin Luther King, Ali, James Brown, the list goes on and on, all successful, talented, mega rich, want exactly is it that makes those cracker asses turn beetroot with anger, upbringing? Do you think Black people today give a fuck what is said in this thread, or what your views are? Unless you have kids and teach them to hate based on a persons skin colour, as time moves on, the nation, society will slowly cleanest itself.

I've just read that in the South, if you owned 20 slaves or more, you didn't have to serve, how very fucking convenient, yet inconvenient for the Crimm clan.

Hrmm maybe because it is happening in the here and now and not 100, 200 years ago.

So Rap, soul, Jazz doesn't originate from African roots, heritage. I'm not going to dispute what you are saying, maybe others more versed with the topic might have a counter argument. Suffice to say, you are looking at things from a nations prospective, it can almost be taken from granted that in your prized institutions, pharmaceutical companies, universities, NASA, medical research facilities, CIA, FBI, in fact everywhere, you will find immigrant Africans and Arabs.

Age is irrelevant when there is learning, ask away and we will see.

 

OK, here's a political question: who's cock is bigger, Trump's or Hillary's?

 

Caught by the edit period, that statement is so wrong. Just because ameriKa creates, invents, discovers, manufacturers, who is doing it? White AmeriKan's, American born and bred, how about Black American born and bred, how about a top Nigerian born physicist, Indian surgeon living working in AmeriKa. Your country has the resources, the facilities, the budget, we know that.

Regarding this use of "our brains", what exactly defines an American? White? Born in the US, naturalised? Parents born in US? Loyal to the flag? What about AmeriKan research funded by Saudi petro dollars, were does that fit in the equation. Who financed Bush