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Roulette I detest Roulette

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Junket King, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    That was one of a few.

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    the diff' being a player and being a BS artist.
     
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  2. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    If you wanted to prove something about a positive way of betting you should post your historic since you started to play and with significative ammount of bets...

    Coz what you're doing is not really impressive and deja vu a thousand times...

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    Your pics now could represent the tips that he gave to the dealer... and this have been played with a BS system... Some people (especially in gambling) might think they are the navel of the world (that's how we say to say "think you're the center of universe" in my language), while in fact they're only its a** hole.
     
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  3. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Get on this cunts post :D:D:D with the JP indoctrinated nathan detroit lurking in the background (probably on the few remaining JP devotees still above ground, where is the Capt??), not having posted anything of any fuckin' use since 2004 when he was present on GG.

    Yeah, right I often give £500 tips away, FUCK OFF you pair of nonces.
     
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  4. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    Traduction : "No i don't want to post my historic since i play with a large significative ammount of bets... Instead, i'll talk about Jp, Nathan to evade the issue."

    Come on bro don't be the Real cunt in here, post your historic since you're playing... I'm curious & interested to see what you got since you're playing... Bring the real artilleryn not the one to impress Natural9... Till now, more you guys talk more i understand that the dealer had fun on you guys...
     
  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    Bro as arse!! As if, you daft Dutroux-loving waffle eating cunt, go fuck yourself,
     
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  6. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    That's probably what i'd say if i'd be ashamed to post my historic since the start
    ... Keep taking screenshot of your best wins and avoid to show what you lost, super king who's playing with super dealer...:)
     
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  7. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I'm happy to be called out by this friggin weapon. A complete spanner who likes to stay under the radar, incognito, posses no players card, wins some much money never filling out any W-2g. However happily posted on the [removed, pay to advertise] GamblersGlen that he was sent a letter from some casino congratulating him on his knowledge / prowess, internet presence, he was actually gob-smacked by this, fuck me.

    Claimed back in the day to have made 1 fuckin MILLION dollars in the month of MAY, turned out to be play money in play mode. When he plays he takes a posses of body guards, despite being under any radar. Posts on this forum that he will sometimes lose on purpose to throw the casino off on how good he is and his consistent wins. Why do I resurrect this, because prior to last night, I was thinking I might have to start concealing my winning from the Bacc' tables, as a real world player, nobody loses on purpose to throw off a casino, you simply don't cash everything out, take home your chips, pocket chips during any dealer change, get yer body-guards to cash out for ya. I've done all of these, except they weren't my body-guards, rather either mat8's or people I knew and trusted.

    Of course when it's dubious if ya actually play at all, or at a level the casinos couldn't give a RATS-ASS (despite sending out letters), it is understandable they might not believe, like the demo some croupier gave me and my real world friend Natural 8 when he spun 0-0-7 (missed the 7 by one pocket).

    Of course none of this is possible, because somebody who now claims doesn't care about money, despite having spent well over 2 decades trying to devise ways to achieving it from casinos, as the absolute GALL to accuse others of living in a fantasy world, yep sounds about right Danielle.
     

  8. TurboGenius

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    Clearly one of my biggest fans, reading every word and compelled after 3 years to shout in a thread for attention.
    I hope you've learned something along the way.. it doesn't appear that way but there's hope.
     
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    Yup, the john-O is king of the baccarats and roulettes! The boy never ever, EVER has a losing session expect for when he does and that's only cuz casino the casino are engaged in underhandedness, skulldugerries and cheatings, hey hey.
     
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  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Nar I'm not one of your fanboys, maybe re-think about your response, because clearly you I brought you out of your hibernation with your original response to the OP. However I believe it's good to expose nonsense and crap which gets perpetrated on gambling forums anywhere.

    I did explain above WHY I resurrected this thread, because prior to Wen, I was toying with not wanting the casino to know how much I was winning, also profits are down due to to CoVid, so one needs to be smart with how they approach things. A similar situation you once addressed yourself, except your solution was to lose on purpose haha, round of applause for such an innovated approach. Which then got me thinking, you avoid players cards, don't want those casinos to know who you are, stay under the radar, but they managed to send you a letter telling you how much of a genius you are, Lol.

    If you didn't want any the Turning Stone or any other casino to know how much you are winning, why didn't ya body guards cash-out for you? I've had mates to do that when I wanted to stay under the $10k threshold in Oz for tax reporting purposes, or you could have simply taken your chips home, they could have been also a good conversation piece when the body-guards pop round.

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    Imagine that, 40 pieces of worthless plastic, which actually is worth more than a decent Beama or Evoque, impressive yeah?
     
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    "To be clear - unless you live in a fantasy world or reject reality in some way -
    A croupier at a roulette table CANNOT land the ball on a specific color" Turbo


    On the live platforms I play, PlayTech and Evolution, there are a couple dealers who section shoot for the zeros and they're pretty good at it. They are obviously in cahoots with somebody at home who bets the zeros whenever this dealer is spinning roulette. They will get caught eventually. One of them is so obvious that I have to laugh. He puts the ball in position with his fingers on the track and waits sometimes five or six seconds which is a long time before he releases the ball at exactly the spot he wants to release it. And about every five or six spins he hits a zero. One time he hit a zero 3 out of 5 spins and quit. Even he knew enough is enough. When he's a dealer I generally don't play. I don't know though, because he's hitting the same sections on the American wheel, he does have a lot of repeating numbers. Last week he hit the numbers on either side of the double zero so many times the tote board looked like it was fiction.
     
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    Few years ago in my local casino, a couple of punters jumping around the many roulette tables and were winning to often betting two Column using £25 chips. Pit-boss has a quiet word with a croupier who passes on the message. Now the two guys are losing everywhere and a unprecedented amount of green zeros are displayed on the tote board. I'm watching this and at the end of the Bacc' shoe, I go over to them the players and tell them, "they are spinning against you, open your eyes". Their initial response was "why would they do that", so I explained...

    But of course, if you've invent some fantasy level of expertise via the internet without having stepped much in any casino, because money doesn't matter, then your never really going to notice.
     
  13. Sputnik

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    Nice to see some discussion about physics.

    Cheers
     
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    It's a good urban legend that a dealer can hit a number, but there's no reality to it.
    It's never been demonstrated and when it happens of course it seems like it was done with some skill
    and not just random chance.
    It's all you see on GN online, people post their numbers as if it matters - the dealer says "I'm going to
    hit your number" then poof, sure enough it lands on the number. Wow. Proof that they can do it ? No.
    It works 1 out of 37 times they say it, just like random outcomes.
    And that's a specific number - to hit a specific color like I said in my post is even more impossible
    because of how the colors are on the wheel. It works around 50/50 just like it should.
    Think of it this way - they made a robot that could bowl a strike over and over and over.. that took a
    long time to develop and now it can be done. One moving part which is the ball.
    Here in roulette we have a moving ball, a spinning wheel, scatter, etc etc - making it 1,000 times harder
    for even a finely tuned machine to do if at all.

    But I know, I know... Fred the dealer can hit number 0 whenever he wants.
    He can hit Red and not Black....

    It's a fantasy world to even consider this is possible but people insist on living in it and even
    trying to convince others.
     
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  15. Sputnik

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    In my opinion, it's impossible for a dealer to spin the ball with the same strength and arm/hand muscle memory.
    In such a way, the ball will get the same or similar distances (amounts of laps) until drops.
    And same with punching the rotor with the same strength with arm/hand muscle memory.
    To create the same rotor speed for each spin.

    You can use physics and visual ballistics and prove that each spin is unique.

    Cheers
     
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  16. Nathan Detroit

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    Losers always blame some one else for their losses. The shlemil who created this topic is no different.
     
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    Data from my Huxley Wheel.

    No signature.

    Release number from each spin, Zero
    Rotor speed 3.0 for each spin.
    Similiar spin strength muscle/hand memory
    18 mm Teflon ball
    Clockwise direction

    100 trail sample

    12
    26
    26
    32
    17
    14
    34
    36
    27
    29
    23
    27
    29
    16
    11
    34
    28
    27
    16
    25
    29
    17
    13
    32
    20
    11
    31
    24
    36
    34
    7
    26
    31
    9
    36
    24
    29
    13
    6
    32
    22
    10
    15
    16
    3
    3
    20
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    22
    35
    6
    24
    30
    12
    9
    17
    13
    14
    1
    20
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    34
    15
    3
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    21
    2
    26
    11
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    0
    25
    22
    31
    14
    24
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    21
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    11
    29
    1
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    1
    7
    21
    5
    22
    1
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    34
    16
    24
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    34
    32
    32
    10

    100 trail sample

    10
    5
    29
    26
    1
    34
    8
    29
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    32
    33
    10
    0
    6
    29
    12
    3
    30
    2
    36
    34
    21
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    19
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    34
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    32
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    35
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    30
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    35
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    24
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    23
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  18. Sputnik

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    Forgot to mention, the Tilt 2 pin game.

    Cheers
     
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    The other side of the coin - Snowman state that you can get a 5 STDV peak with a release number and also get a signature to explore.
    My assumption is that the simplest signatures were used many years ago with 1 pin games.
    Where you take the release number and outcome and look at similarities with distances.

    I read about wheel mapping which could be a solution for finding and exploring a signature.
    There are users who say is working.
    It involves some clever and simple visual ballistics.

    For example, if I remember correctly, have the files in my AP Libary.
    You watch the dealer spin the ball.
    Then you look at the number below the reference deflector when the ball is over it.
    Then you repeat that behaviour until you have three unique numbers.
    When that unique pattern and combination of numbers repeats your assumption is that the ball will land in the same area as the first time.
    You can pick five or ten unique number patterns and map and follow the wheel.
    Each pattern key the same spin as the previous with the same ball/rotor speed.

    Beyond that is a grey zone what is wheel signature or light vb solutions towards pure visual ballistics.

    Cheers
     
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  20. Naughty but nice

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    Sputnik, here's the 1st 60 spins of 100 trials of your huxley wheel.
    I don't know if you've seen my quote on this forum and RF; that repeats have an average of 1-3-5-7=16@ 40 spins and 30 repeats@ 60spins.
    I suppose the Riddler crew would claim these 60 spins would be a win?
    Now, that repeat average is good; because old useless, Dr Sir anyone posted 10'330 live spins and guess what it shows 1-3-5-7=16
    In light blue box, 1-10 has 1 repeat; +0
    11-20, has 5 repeats, 5+1=6 should have 4 for the average, so, repeats +2
    21-30, had 6 repeats, 6+6=12 should have 9 for the average, so, repeats +3
    31-40, had 7 repeats, 7+12=19 should have 16 for the average, so, repeats +3
    60 spins usually has 30 of the starting 37 and 30 numbers will have repeated.
    The 60 spins had 29 of the starting 37. 31 repeats.

    Does your wheel have an advantage?
     

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