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Roulette Is it possible to Beat Roulette?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Mark ,


    I read you loud and clear . A 1-2 is definitely a martingale although only 1 step .


    Bet 2 W ,1 W , then go virtual and resume with 2 is part of the 2-1-2 scenario.


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  2. gizmotron

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    If that is true then I can't relate to steps like might be the norm.

    So 1 = step one, and 2 = step two in the marti.

    I have always considered the base value of 1 unit as the first step of many steps in the martingale. Is the base value considered "0."
     
  3. Sorina

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    wanted to ask the same question. why is that the worst?
     
  4. Half Smoke

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    Bago, you told me earlier in a post that racing couldn't be beat without inside info
    it looks like you have changed your opinion

    good for you - you found out the truth
     
  5. Bago

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    And what tell you I don't have insider informations? :cool:
     
  6. Junket King

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    I concur. Bago knows his stuff when it comes to Roulette, to suggest otherwise, then you need to change your diaper.

    I know somebody who has met Forester, said he was a genuine and overall a nice guy, didn't have a bad word to say about him. No idea about what he feels about Bago.
     
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  7. gizmotron

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    Really. All you have to do is is look at the odds board to see where the suckers are betting based on purchasing the racing forms. That will tell you what is not going to happen in one case. It almost never works. Then you look at the horses too, if you can.

    I like to buy 5 deep trifectas. That from those 5 horses that I pick any three of them is covered for 1,2,3 finish. It costs about $80. I 'm looking for long odds to finish in the top 3. Those racing forms are almost always wrong. So I select a mix of right and wrong on purpose based on the sucker odds on the main board. It works some times.

    But what do I know.
     
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  8. Bago

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    I stick to single horse betting because other bets such as trifecta (tiercé) here in France has a too big cut, like the Casino, you won't choose the game where they get their biggest edge.

    https://www.pmu.fr/turf/static/sinformer/prelevements/

    The mistake of analysts is they select the horse that has the best class, which is a mistake because the best horse in a given race didn't necessarily targeted the race. It is easier to find horses that targeted the race with harness racing because there are conditions that have to be met such as global winnings that cannot exceed X euros. Also a confirmed driver on the racetrack is a sign the trainer targeted the race and does not come for tourism. There are other factors but the key is to selected horses that have targeted the race, and of course you don't play the horse if its odds is 2/1, it must stay a value bet to win in the long run :D
     
  9. gizmotron

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    good stuff Bago
     
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    Also comparing the distance between the trainer base and the racetrack is a good indicator he does not travel to finish last :D
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

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    J. Patrick suggests never to bet on races with more than 8 horses .


    Another Wise Guy from GG suggests betting on post positions 2 , 5 or 10 .



    P.S. That post position crap worked for me on the past 4 triple crowns ( W or P ).


    Just for recreation and fun .



    ND
     
  12. gizmotron

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    That ain't randomness that you are reading.
     
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    The less horses in the race, the better odds you get to have your poney paying but the payout is also lower, often when there is a big favourite, even the other horses pay 1,1-1,3/1 :oops:
     
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  15. Junket King

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    All the horse races down-under were fixed for years, extremely difficult to get inside info. But a mate of mine used to get a last minute phone call a few times per year.
     
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    in the U.S. - favorite/longshot bias - data from Barry Meadow new book - about 863,000 races were surveyed
    may not apply to France, Europe
    over 15% the ROI gets worse and continues to get worse as the odds go up



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  18. RouletteGhost

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    Living 20 mins from Belmont race day is fun as hell

    Beer. Food. And being a fucking gambling degenerate.
     
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  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Even Roulette Ghost has beaten the race track by having fun . The same can be applied to a casino by having fun there as well .

    ND
     
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    If there is no winning system, that means there is a winning system...


    As there is opposition in ALL things

    Forgive me im stoned
     

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