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Roulette Is it possible to Beat Roulette?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. DanyWhite

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    You are welcome! Is there any news about your next wins?
     
  2. Benas

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    I read forums and always think why all are so interested in which colour hit which dozen or which column ...
    Why does nobody look to reality?


    Reality is such that hits not colours, not dozens even not numbers but distances from point A till point B where B is wining number. If you instead colours or calculating wins and losses, on what you spend time, will calculate simply distances from starting point till the end and will play on some kind of average you can with this simple way get some advantage. Why nobody such does?
     
  3. Bago

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    Because such simplistic approach used to work back in the 60's when the ball fell like a rock and the wheels were all tilted, but against a level wheel with a light ball that bounces like a gazelle and hit different part of the diamonds, you will have a hard time getting an edge even if you are allowed to place your bets with five revolutions to go. And don't tell some in videos at home with a phone have an edge against modern wheels, firstly they are not set level because the ball falls mostly at 90° +/- at the same place everytime, the ball used is not a light ivorine ball, the wheel speed is constantly the same spin after spin, the air density in a small room does not affect the ball deceleration as much as a vast room like in a Casino and the last and very important difference between home conditions and casino conditions is the fact in the last case, players when making their bets are pushing on the table and at the same occasion moves the wheel and even a slight shake will make the ball deceleration differs from one spin to another and even a super sophisticated laser computer could not takes this into account since it occurs during the time you are not allowed to place bets.
     
  4. Benas

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    yes... clear that you never played serious:)
    I played 20 and more years back and play now and in 99% I not see a big difference.I f play in right way is the same - you still play on the best zone, no matter how big is scattering.
    All dispersion still create Gaussian curve and player if want win - must play in centre, that is all...
     
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    Ok Bago but if you see any concentration in an area it means that it must have been regular at a moment... Ok it can be random but if you follow things you could eliminate random as you did with PEtra for example...
     
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    Guys, many things are possible to calculate with formulas, here is nothing magical - that is simply statistical distribution - it has many common on all wheels. Really all that is very similar to artillery ballistic ... :)
     
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    It sure is. Your dreams will blow up in your face. And the best part is that this is a war that you are actually willing to wage. To me it is more similar to crash test dummies in the auto industry. Now there is a distribution that really has a certain outcome. Go for it. Preach it. Some sucker needs to keep the lights on.
     
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    Bring a recording video/audio micro camera inside your casino then we will see what's your Gaussian curve looks like, if it does not show a flat earth, I jump from the top of the Eiffel Tower completely nude and live stream.
     
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    Man, for me mot interesting what you will see, for me is interesting what see me. I do not have intentions to prove to you what is taught at the university, or in college. If you have problems with educations then try to solve them - buy books and learn.
    This way you can learn why and from what Gaussian curve is made - it is always and that is natural. Only some see it when others - no.
    If your knowledge is two thousand years back and you still think that the earth is flat, nobody for you will help...
     
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    Beating modern wheels in today's casino conditions is not taught at the university or in college. Claiming that you see a Gaussian curve shows that you are not educated on Roulette, it is valid against a tilted wheel with a rock ball to see only one peak forming on your scatter graph. When the ball misses a dominant diamond like it is the case on semi-tilted and harder level wheels, then the peaks are forming 90° or 180° away from the dominant diamond, that's why Pierre created the vis-à-vis split betting and crossed betting fucking idiot. Your claims demonstrate like I stated that you still believe the 60's conditions are nowadays conditions and you run like a crying girl when asked to prove it for real.
     
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    Man - not educated is you and with this talk, you show that. Is minimal possible distance and are the maximal possible distance, in max zone, is less chance that ball will stop, the same is with min zone , all that is between them have higher chances to hit ... And no matter that is roulette or javelin throwing - distribution of results produce Gaussian curve . 11.png If you that not understand, nobody will help you - go to school :)
     
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    This is interesting. What's the Gaussian Curve for idiots in Roulette players? What do you want to bet that VB, DS and Bias Wheels are at the top of the idiot spectrum? After that are the dopes that sneak computers into casinos. There would have to be the magical thinkers after that. Then, because of wide spread warnings, there would be the Martingale dreamers. And with almost no blips at all on the graph there would be actual winners.
     
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    I do not prepare here to give lectures in Vb, but that is like VB player see distribution. I posted a chart with real distribution of the ball in absolute meaning - so when Vb player at all does not measure ball. Even in such situations are many chances to be over that -2.7% and sometimes even be in plus side. When players use additional things as ball speed and others - Gaussian curve is much sharper and with a higher cap, what talks about bigger chances to end as the winner.
    That mine chart is taken from data in real casino and very easy to see that not all places in betting are the same in value.

    So my initial questtion was -why nobody from all system players use such simple method of colecting data and detecting some slight better zone for play ? Without clocking ball and others things what do VB players. This way is possible simply transfer game from -2.7% to maybe 0% game , or even with slight advantage. And then you can use all your betting strategies :)
     
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    But you do want to lecture us on celestial mechanics on Mars concerning probable landing sites.

    Not really. Just kidding you.

    Some of us like Baloney Festivals.
     

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    When I played Roulette over a decade ago, I read as much as possible. I wouldn't so dismissive of VB. as for electronic devices, let's not forget the Serbian crew that took down the Ritz to the tune of a quarter of a million and actually got paid. Far from being a Baloney Festival.
     
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    Good points. Those that come first get the rewards and everyone else gets whatever the casinos does to protect their interests. It sort of started with Ed Thorp. They caught that weakness real fast, counting cards in Blackjack. The Garcia Pelayo family made millions too.



    These are known methods now and the casinos have adjusted accordingly. So finding a bias wheel now days is likely impossible. If they do exist it sure is not a 6 extra wins for each 100 spins anymore. Most of us know that a small sample does not validate evidence. This is all part and parcel of a good baloney festival anyway.
     
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    Ok, I think you know only a few methods which use AP and for sure not main. In some moment Advanced players understand that silence simply leads to at least more easy wins :)
     
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    Your wheel has 101 pockets? Are you sure you are talking about Roulette here, stop smoking mommy's panties.
     
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    Yes If you can find bias wheel. I believe that is only way to won consistenly.
    All system eventually u loose.
     
  20. Junket King

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    And what is wrong about that :D:D:D

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