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Roulette Is it possible to Beat Roulette?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Benas

    Benas Active Member

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    Do you understand what you talk? I started and continue to talk about distances. One rotation is 37 two -74, three -111 and so one.
    If for you ball jump in 37 pockets is the same as no jump at all- for you nobody can help... as in many other cases which I pointed, but what here to do, I talk with a man who maybe never played roulette, maybe even not saw it in reality. Here are problems when writing these, who never play...
     
  2. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Here we go, "how to win friends and influence people",

    Most of the time no, I'm just buzzing.

    I think everybody who starts gambling, begins with the ball and wheel game. Yes I have played the game homie.
     
  3. Bago

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    Your graph shows a peak around 46-47, you are talking about distance, but do not mention what you are refering to idiot: from the starting release point, from the strike point, from the number below your reference diamond, for instance when there are 5 revolutions to go, be clearer, the one who looks like dumb is you, noone can understand what is your point.
     
  4. Bago

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    Benas, give a concrete example that makes you put a cross above 46 for example. Be very clear, my patience with idiots have limits.
     
  5. Sharptracker

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    Sometimes i'd like to know at which step people gave up with Vb... and what they did in order to win. It would explain many things...
     
  6. Benas

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    What is the difference for you what is a reference point for me? You still cant use it because not know Vb. That is some point from which I calculate the distance to some other point knowing which i know the final result.
    What is in that chart as 111 are simply wideness of dispersion it is not aimed to show for others something. You are in forums maybe 15 years, at least about such I remember you from Foresters and from GG forums.You always tried to look like such who know the game, but passed so many years and you learned finally nothing.
    Usually dumb is that who not play and who - not understand and such in this case is you. I asked simply question - why nobody uses distances? Now answer is clear - you simply even not know what that is distances between reference points and wining numbers...
    Man, I repeat in this case - idiot is you. It is you, who not understand the elementary distribution of distances which do ball between two points. It is you who not understand how Gaussian curve is formated.
     
  7. Bago

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    My silly friend, as there are only 37 pockets for a single zero wheel, then you calculate the ball jump with X axis:

    (0...+18-18...-1) or (0.....+36). You should know the Skeleton excel sheet, why on earth would you calculate the distance differently, you are a fool and a clown at the same time. Thanks for the entertainment.
     

  8. Benas

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    Bago silly is you, to count distances this way is one of the reasons why peoples lost. You even not understand when you can use such counting - got from Caleb that sheet and not think when you can it use ... :)
    Such counting is counting mods, when you lost 10 010$ why you do not think that lost 10$ ?:) Or maybe think :)
     
  9. Bago

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    Benas, why do you count +46 pockets from your reference point when it is the same as +9 pockets. Example Zero is your raw prediction and the offset is +9 so the final prediction is n°34. If you add +46 pockets you get the same number/prediction.
    46-37=9.
    I know you are cornered but be a man and don't invent losses of such amount I never had to deal with to win the argument. Be a Man and show the maths.
     
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  10. Benas

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    because that is not the same. I can show you simply example: say you mark only in 37 pockets and have marked 9 and 27. what is the average between them? You can say that is (9+27)/2=18. But what is if that 9 is really not 9 but 46? This way average is (27+46)/2=37 !! So the opposite side.
    That is a simple example, but that is the reason why these who start play Vb, but really not know how all to do - lost...
     
  11. Bago

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    Yes I am lost, I still don't understand how do you get a ball jump of +46. Give a concrete example between which number and the final result please.
     
  12. Benas

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    Talk is not about ball jumps, talk is about the distance between ref point and final mumber.
    One more simple example your ref. point is at 12 Dd ball pass it and here is 0, now ball fall and immediately stop in 34 you count and got 9. next spin - identical situation ball pass 0 at 12 Dd but fall not imidiatelly, but after some time say somewhere at 9 o'clock so after passing zero one more time and stops again in 34. You again count and write say 9. So you have two spins one done long way after passing your ref. point another fall immediately but you mark them the same :)
    The same if you collect only jump one-time ball jumped 9 pockets from the first contact in 0 and rested in 34 second time it jumped 46 pockets so after contact with 0 it one time in jumping passed zero and rested in 34 - you again got the same 9 pockets :)
    Third spin - ball pass or done the first touch at zero - then juped back for 27 pockets and rested in 34 - you again marked it as +9 pockets :)
    Do you think you can win with such data ? If you can - you are genius, much better than Turbo :)
     
  13. Bago

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    Hello, the problem is your VB approach assumes that on every spin, the ball will hit the diamond at 12 o'clock, this is Ok when the wheel is tilted. But as I told you, it is no more the case in modern Casinos. The wheels are set level and the ball hits every diamonds almost equally and even hit different part of the diamonds (upper or bottom part that does not produce the same ball jump).
    Therefore, in theory, you would need to be able to at least predict which diamond the ball will hit 5 ball revolutions before it hits the final destination.
    Segregating rollers or the ball going backward is not the problem, they are not the average behaviour of the ball, again the problem is your approach cannot predict the area around the wheel the ball will hit, the reference number below the same reference diamond, even if you are right everytime 5 revolutions to go IS NOT enough to get an edge.
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Bullshit. Most wheels have DDs and many strong enough to exploit. You just have a very limited access to wheels, and or haven't profiled them.
     
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  15. Bago

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    Wear a micro pin camera and show us how you beat modern wheels. I feel I will wait a long time like TurboGenius playing for real money.
     
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    Who'll take the risk to bring a camera while he's playing... You should try to do it first while you gamble at a table, to know exactly what you want to see and let's see also how much time we'll need to wait.
     
  17. Bago

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    The goal of a pinhole micro camera is its invisibility. You are not helping the Belgian's reputation. We need to only see them record the board, they put even a small chip on their predicted number and we see the winning number with the marker, then the offset graph will show they don't predict better than random.
    You are strange to ask me to record myself playing Roulette, I said many times I stopped playing many years ago and I am saying you can't beat Roulette today. Small memory the Belgian...
     
  18. Sharptracker

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    Of course i remember that you stoped to play roulette but still you pretend it to be a formality... So i was just asking for a simple demonstration from you gambling/pointing the referent number of a gamble play and the winning number to realize that what you ask is not simple as you claim it to be.
     
  19. Bago

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    It's Benas and now General that claims that, what is wrong with you?. I've put my right hand in a pocket during a very long time with a visible wireless earpiece, the Casino's staff did notice it but they didn't fucking care, and even one time the cable of the wireless earpiece got unplugged accidentally and despite the noise of the slots, a dealer heared the noise of my clicks and looked at me with a face "what the fuck is this", as long you are not taking money from them, they don't fucking care, you can pretend to be texting with your smartphone at the table while playing, noone will tell you to stop. And as a regular you will be offered free drinks. Not a lot of experience in the real Casinos the Belgian.
     
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  20. Sharptracker

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    Hmmm your experience actually seems to be old school, on my tables you cannot use a phone at the table, you even can't put it on the table...
    I know you're not claiming to win money at the roulette but you say it is a formality to prove it with a camera... i was just asking you to show how easy it is, especially after your last post.

    Because this is what you decided to chose to prove that "no they cannot win " and if they cannot record it because it is too complicated to do, you'd basically say "see? they cannot do it"... That's why i wanted you to show us how easy it is, in order to say yes Bago is right to ask for those kind of proof...
     

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