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Baccarat Just for Kicks and Giggles

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. Joey Torres

    Joey Torres Member

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    Hi Soxfan,

    Are you using your MM (parlay) in your testing?

    Please continue providing us with your update.

    Thanks
     
  2. soxfan

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    For this style I test using my modify 11 step star style, hey hey.
     
  3. Nels

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    Soxfan,
    Would running two or three streams of your progression within the shoe and alternating the escalation deal with the more common worst case scenarios?
     
  4. soxfan

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    Sorry, you will have to elaborate as I don't know what you mean by "streams of progression and alternating the escalation", hey hey.
     
  5. soxfan

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    Update, I've now tested 1442 shoe tested in the books and showing a gross profit of +13,242 unit, hey hey.
     
  6. soxfan

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    Just wanted to add that I'm coming around to view betting bankers only as a go to bets selection, especially for workin with progressions that require a win rate of less than 50 percents. Yeah ya get clipped bucking up against player dom shoe but those are the rare event. And, yeah ya pay more vig just betting banks but just increase yer base units bet to make up for it, hey hey.
     
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  7. Joey Torres

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    Hi Soxfan, do you bet banker every hand? Or do you have a trigger to start betting banker and do you continue betting even if the players are dominating the shoe?
     

  8. soxfan

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    Yeah for this test I just bet bankers straight through, bucking up against 60 decision per shoe. So, 1442 is about equal to the year worth of fulltime play and this style with a 10$ base units bet and a 26Ks lifetime bankroll would have given a cat a gross profit of just over 130ks for the year, and plenty enough to feed tha bulldog, hey hey!
     
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  9. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    I’ve always enjoyed reading soxfan posts

    No bullshit type of guy

    I’m interested in reading how he plays.....

    I got quite the spread

    In regards to the original post, your modified star on the bankers, how exactly are you deploying this progression? Straight through reset on a win?
     
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  10. soxfan

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    Yeah, I wanted to keep it simple so just bet bankers, balls out, straight through buckin up against 60 hand per shoe. Though you could make some tweak to the bet bankers only. And yeah ya get clipped hard with the player doms shoe but they are rare event and betting banks only yer gonna win more hand than lose and that serves ya in good stead workin with the progression, hey hey.
     
  11. soxfan

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    Update for interested cats! I've now tested this style against 2283 shoe in the books and total sweet sweet gross profits of +18,030 unit! I ain't no how much longer I'm gonna test this for as testings has shown me everything I need to know. When I started testing I assumed that betting banks only would be slightly better than betting players only. I was wrong as the "slight" banker edge ain't slight at all, it is YYYYYUUUUUUGE! One more thing of note is that the average profit for this tsyle has come down a bit from about 10 unit gross to about 7.8 unit gross. That might be temporary or might just be the true performance for this style. And recently this style did get clipped for progressions bust on three straight shoe, and that's been the worst case so far as generally progressions busts with this style are rare and I ain't done the stats but am lookin at a win rate per show of well over 90%.I'm gonna pony up another thread soon about my philosophy and the importance of testings, hey hey.
     
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  12. Jimske

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    Do you mind saying if you know how many pets per shoe on average this style makes? And as a comment about getting clipped 3 shoes in a row that's not at all unusual. Just a matter of variance.
     
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    sox are your tests on 8 deck shoes ?, I look forward to reading about BALLS OUT philosophy.
     
  14. soxfan

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    How many pets per shoe? Sorry, don't know what you mean by that, hey hey.
     
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  15. soxfan

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    Yeah, mostly test against 8 decks shoe I buck against at mortars and bricks joint. I also test few hundreds shoe from OLG online rng baccarats game, hey hey
     
  16. Junket King

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    Jesus, tell me about it. I'm losing roughly my first 3 shoes every session this week, I do manage to eventually pull things back, but it is becoming a ball-ache.
     
  17. BeJustRich

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    Well,

    Interesting topic, but could you please explain how you bet?

    1-1-1-2/5-10-15-25-40-65-100 units bets this line is ok, I understand if lose 3 times 1 bet 2 if lose 2unit bet go to 5 and so on. But if win, what do you do? Go down one step? For example, bet 100 and win. What is the next step?

    3-2-1-3/-5-10-10-15-20-30-35 units profits (This line is not understandable, why written profits)?

    Thanks!
     
  18. soxfan

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    One more thing that might be of interest to cats. This style seem to offer up a gross profit on winning shoe of about 35 unit. So, that means it take about 8 or 9 winning shoe to claw back the units lost on shoe where ya get clipped by the progressions busts. And to me that ain't a bad ratio at all, hey hey.
     
  19. soxfan

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    The 1-1-1-2 units bets are pure parlay. The last seven bet 5-10-15-25-40-65-100 are double win. So, if ya capture the back to back win on any stage you capture the units amounts of profit then re-set progression to the first bet in the series, hey hey.
     
  20. BeJustRich

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    Hey, still not clear :)
    means if you lose 7 times in the row starting with 5 units by Fibonacci you are busted? because I thought that you have 11 steps deep negative progression....hmm

    What about second line?
     

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