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Baccarat Just for Kicks and Giggles

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Active Member

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    The last seven bets are pure double win, not fib, hey hey.
     
  2. BeJustRich

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    I got it, all your game and testings based only on positive progression.
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Active Member Founding Member

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    I don't think so but soxfan can answer that.

    In the meantime I thought I'd present a factoid based on 190,373 actual live decisions from various casinos (AC, CT, LV, MS). That's about 2600 shoes. Player = 93,645 while Banker = 96,951 That represents 50.8% were Bankers.

    The range for variance by group 50.4% to 51.3%. Each group at least 25,000 decisions.
     
  4. soxfan

    soxfan Active Member

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    Nope, it's a negative progression as you go up the ladder on the loss, hey hey.
     
  5. soxfan

    soxfan Active Member

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    Yup, that "slight" bankers edge ain't so slight. I don't think that I'll ever make another bet on players, hey hey.
     
  6. BeJustRich

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    Soxfan, could you please describe your bettings on Player, because seem it is really not clear about it. I would like to try it in a real game and will share my results. Many thanks!
     
  7. soxfan

    soxfan Active Member

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    I am not betting players, only betting on bankers with the 11 step modify star style, hey hey!
     

  8. BeJustRich

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    star style :) I am sorry that I do not understand that. If to comeback to betting progression you described, you bet on banker all the time, that is clear, but what is your action if you lose first bet like 1u. What is your action if you lose a bet number 8 (25u).etc
     
  9. BeJustRich

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    Maybe it is possible to contact you in personal Mr Soxfan ? :) I am new here so how it is possible to exchange contact details without breaking rules of this forum?
     
  10. soxfan

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    I think that what I have posted here is simple enough to understand. Perhaps I'm just not very good at explaining things, hey hey.
     
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  11. soxfan

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    Ok one time I'm gonna pony up an example of how the progression work, hey hey.

    L1
    L1
    L1
    L2
    W5
    L5
    W5
    L5
    W5
    L5
    W5
    W5 here ya get yer back to back win so ya capture 5 units profits and reset to first bet in progression
     
  12. Jimske

    Jimske Active Member Founding Member

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    Okay, I will do this for yous that not following. That's okay, sometimes some things can be difficult to understand.

    1-1-1-2/ is parlay. If lose then -5 units. So then bet 5 units and not parlay but bet same 5 units and if win = 10 units. That gives a +5 unit profit. So the second row just showing the profit when you lose all bets up to that point and then win 2IAR. And so on.
     
  13. BeJustRich

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    clear about parlay
    5-10-15-25-40-65-100 it goes in case of losing?

    L5
    L10
    L15
    L25
    L40
    W65,,,, balance -35. What we do next? bet 40? or go two levels down and bet 25?
     
  14. soxfan

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    No you need backs to backs win at any level so in this example you repeat the 65 units bet and if you capture the backs to backs win then you capture 30 units profits and re-set to first bet in progression. It ain't rocket science, baby, hey hey.
     
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  15. Junket King

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    Not quite, you didn't account for the pre-stage, in which case you are even.

    It is progressing like a Fibonacci, so you can apply the regress option if you wanted, it you are heading too far up the Fibo scale.
     
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  16. Jimske

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    Ipretty much always apply a regression or freeze to reduce escalation.

    Sometimes I'm just glad to get half back or even then restart. It happened today and cost me a better win but.... I'll take the smaller win. Real good easy shoes will come.
     
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    Cheers Jim, I had a 1 chip on the P, while making the reply above, I started typing without realising my mouse on still on my other screen, so my bet unintentionally went from 1u to 4u. I wasn't fast enough to remove the chips. Thankfully the bet came home, so cheers.
     
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    Your Data Math
    Banker Wins 50.8% 50.7%

    Banker HE 0.81% 1.06%

    Player HE 1.73% 1.24%

    Banker HE + Player HE 2.54% 2.30%
     
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  19. soxfan

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    Ok the final update for interested cats. I just finished testings through the current note book I'm workin through, and am not gonna do anymore testings as I can see that this style is a long term winner. The final result is 2343 tested shoe in the books and a return of 19,024 units of sweet sweet gross profits. That work out to just about 8 units gross profits per shoe and plenty good enough to feed tha bulldog. Other note is that eyeballing the result it seems that I capture the backs to backs win within the first 4-5 stage of progression but actually like goin deeper to be able to capture 20-30 or 35 unit for the backs to backs win. The other thing I've learned from my testings is that betting bankers only is the far superior style of bets selection so long as yer a serious cat and ain't gonna wet yerself when ya get clipped in the short/medium term. So, going forward I will NEVER EVER again make another bet on the players side of the layout, hey hey.
     
  20. soxfan

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    Why on earth would ya drop down to the 25 units bet and end up -10 unit for the coup of backs to backs win? Ya could drop down fib style to the 40 units bet and if win then capture 5 units profits. But that depend on yer mindset and temperament. I know that conservative cats like the jimske and the john-O are more about minimize risk and capital preservation but I'm more about maximizing profits and going balls out. I usually get my backs to backs win within first 4-5 step on progression so if I get to the 65 units bet I figure I'm due. No way do I regress cuz I want a shot at the 30 units profits so I come back over the top makin another 65 units bet! But hey, that's just me, hey hey.
     
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