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Baccarat Live B+M Shoes

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by eugene, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. JacobBlaze

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    looks good i will look into that, but right now i need all the history so i can plug it into my ghetto spreadsheets, and replay shoes for practice and trying out different MMs, as i think each casino has their own flavor of shufffler random magic///

    the shoes you are seeing online are the ones they hand shuffle in front of you and place in clear shoes and deal from clear shoes??? that's why you are getting those runs thats my little brain theory
     
  2. Junket King

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    Yes, the reason why I see those type of runs, is due to to the fact they hardly shuffle the shoes at all. Clumping is epidemic, it is all about the need for speed.
     
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    Remember the Mantra, it is better to not lose than to win. Breaking even is ok, way better than losing your Bankroll.

    I hope so, but also know it probably won't.

    Can't agree, you need to let go of this superstitious stuff, I wold guess one of the reasons this happens, is because the Bet Selection OLD makes more mathematical sense than any other BS, unfortunately it is very difficult to design a staking plan to play this way exclusively.

    There lies the problem, 100% sure, they should only be 50% sure :D

    Think about it, how could, why would a casino pre-determine a shoe in anticipation how they suspect unknown table players might be betting, taking into consideration all those prior hands in a shoe! Let that go and focus on things that you can control, composure & MM ;)
     
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  4. JacobBlaze

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    Went with friend to casino mostly to play fun roulette $1 and drink... But I wanted to show him the junket and the " jk fibo delay (NH)"

    He's not familiar with BAC (blAckjack only) and now he thinks it's easy...lol

    Just played 1 shoe and left to drink and play $1 roulette ..

    I didn't even get out of the flat bet or have to begin fibo as I won first 6 straight, and won 9 out of 11 by hand 24 and at +7, quit betting at hand 30 as I had my 8000 pesos ($150) for our roulette fun...I tracked the rest of the free hands I had and ended up with5 straight losses at hand 42

    I attached shoe to this thread as it's a BM shoe

    Looking at the pattern that this for took I guess many people would have killled it too...but remember i dont follow the main road, but interesting how symmetrical it was


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    I forgot to ask you, regard the busted pre-stack here

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    Now you hit the progression stage, was the progression stage at the same value as the pre-stack?

    You should consider playing a higher chip level in the progression stage, it's entirely up to you, if you don't you have to factor in the lost pre-stack chips.
     
  6. JacobBlaze

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    i didnt lose the prestack there, started at plus 1 and only got to -1 once then finished at plus 20 hand 55, i was just playing JK FIBO reset no delay there

    on the attached shoe i lost the prestack and then went to the fibo starting at 1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34, purple line is flat then red to FIBO then back to purple flat once i recovered,

    i feel going back to 1 is safer for me as my bet selection seems to lose if it loses 4-7 unitsbefore having nice recoveries of 4-8 unit wins,

    but i might have to adjust or just accept 1-5 unit wins per shoe, but if and when i drop(lose) the 34 unit bet, i will not have those 20-30 unit shoes to help cushion the fall---

    i just dont want to stray to far away from initial 1 unit bet, I might look at starting with 2,2,3,5,8 etc after dropping the flat bet 4 units (-4) , i also kept it at 4, i know you posted 5 to 10 flat before starting fibo, if i understood correctly

    more Home testing needed on this.......

    thanks

    ps...and on the other thread im surprised you were still nice after the guy was upset that he played and lost and blamed you, for your advice, i would have just ignored him after that, but you continued to help, Were all adults and make our own decisions if we decide to use advice found anywhere on the internet then we should face the consequences, not blame others. I hope he realizes and apologizes or has apologized for that, I for one will not be giving any advice to that person...



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  7. JacobBlaze

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    this is the shoe dropped first 7 bets, as played recovered but with a 34 unit win and facing -80ish if that doesnt come thru... but i replayed it above using your delay advice and no heart attack bet...but no gains

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  8. Junket King

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    That's cool, whatever suits your comport zone. I do the same nowadays, stay at the same level.

    Better to survive than to die, greed kills, be happy with small profits.

    Try and design something that gives to DEPTH, the ability to ride out losses in a row.

    I know what it is like to lose, you lash out and blame anything and everything. So no problems there from my side.

    Learn to live and fight another day, nobody ever went broke on small profits.
     
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  9. JacobBlaze

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    6 AUG report

    6 shoes played began at about 0430 and finished about 0900, played alone and most of the shoe(s)

    Played everyhand once i started betting normally hand 7thru12 start --Used JK FIBO Regression (with reset on profit or even)+Delay (flat bet until -4 of high of shoe and then begin FIBO (2,2,3,5,8,13,21, no 34 planned) I didnt really have a good recovery/regression plan and was lucky that how i decided to regress came thru on shoe #4 which i will post here that had 9 straight losses

    shoe 1 / shoe high +8 hand 41, finished +8 hand 62 , highest bet 8 (one time) 27W/24L

    shoe 2 / shoe high +8 hand 49, finisjed +6 hand 63, highest bet 3 (3times) 25W/29L

    shoe 3 / shoe high +7 hand 39, finished +5 hand 61, highest bet 8 (1time) 24W/28L

    shoe 4 / shoe high plus 2 hand 15, fimished -9 hand 61, highest bet 21 (once lost) and 13 (5times), 22W / 25L, had 9 straight losses from hand 30-39, after 21 bet loss i decided to regress to 8 and try to win 3 bets of 8, loss first bet of 8, then tried 13 bet lost too (-74 units at this point in shoe hand 39) my stop loss was between 80 and 100 units, but had confidence my bet selection would come back (as it runs in waves), so i fired up another 13 bet at hand 40 won and then 13 again at hand 41 and won, i think if i lose the 13 at hand 40 putting me at -85, i quit the shoe and move up buy in levels to maybe $50 to $100 a unit to recover instead of $20 (played here), i was up about 20 units for the night so this kept me in the game, (and am up about 160 units on this JUNKET) (but i also always start with a 250 unit bankroll)

    hand 40/41 began recovery process but i wanted to get at least even for the night so i ended up -9 at hand 61, up about 10 units for the night so far minus commisiion, i counted at end of shoe and was only up about 5 units after commisiion (5000 pesos/about $100) , if i didnt learn about the fibo delay i would've definetely busted the 34 unit bet, and ended up -80ish that shoe

    I wasnt yet tired so continued to play another shoe

    SHOE 5 / shoe high +7 hand 45 finished +6 hand 60 , highest bet 3 (one time) 23W/21L

    SHOE 6 / shoe high +5 hand 40 finished +5 hand 40 , highest bet 1 15W/10L , going for only 5 units in this shoe before quitting for the day...

    brought home 14300 pesos ($286) in unit profit and 3600 pesos ($72) in junket comission (1.3%)

    total of about $358 for an early morning BAC session...

    all,

    let me know if i should start a new thread with my rants/// thanks all and especially JK for haring his ideas, and knowledge

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  10. Junket King

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    Great post JB

    There you go, you are now thinking on the fly while no doubt under pressure, instead following something blindly.

    Good man

    Great read, I'm thinking we need a trip report thread :)

    No problem, I know what casinos are about, detest the places and al those that work in them, I think you understand too. Sounds like you have already become a better player and will continue to improve.

    That shoe above that returned 9Liar, I applied the a bet selection which I mentioned in the bet options thread (3Col OLCD).

    Here is how it ran;

    LW LLW W W LW W W LLLW LW W W W LLLLLW LLW LW LLW LW LLW W LW = W20 L22

    You could not use a delayed progression against these styles of play.

    Time for more thinking? ;)
     
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  11. Junket King

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    What a shoe, so misleading starting with 4 chops,

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    13 Ties as well...



    Such Joy looking for the Turning Point lawerence? I couldn't see it, maybe she has better fortitude!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Crazy symmetrical shoe, the shit lazy shuffler must be on duty tonight.

    Besides this one below, there was a shoe before that, which was running 35 Banks and 13 Players at one stage.
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    One from a few hours earlier
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    Note** the Player 7 streak, it was followed by a Banker 6 streak.

    Then later in the shoe, another P7 streak. Odds on it won't be followed by a 6 Bankers.. But you can't keep increasing your bets, if the banker doubled after the 2nd P7 streak, how you manage your money is entirely your choice.

    No doubt all the Asian players would have bet real heavy, as in REAL HEAVY, table max bets on the double Bank, they love to gamble, doesn't mean they are any good at it, just like that lawerence chappie.
     
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    Look at the end of shoe naturals, 10 of the final 11 hands.

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    I placed 9 mechanical decided bets in that run and got hit by a Natural score on the opposing side every time. You have to be fuckin' kidding me. I did fuck win on the final banker and with a 6 score. Unreal, unbelievable, talk about bad luck, feeling cursed :mad:

    You're placing bets and the opposing side is hit a natural straight off the bounce, then you switch sides due the BS being used, the then other side starts hitting naturals, you for real, I literally felt targetted!!!

    The stupid lazy bastards have no idea how to shuffle cards properly, it's all about speed and keeping the game going, the majority of shoes are so symmetrical, it is uncanny, no dis-ordinary chaos, 12/15 streaks occur every day, has to be the result of massive card clumping and those doing the shuffling really can't be arsed at 4am in the morning local time and dealers yawning their heads off.

    This shoe hurt I will admit and it was a downward spiral thereafter. Dropping even more units on the next 3 shoes, starting to claw my way back after the above hammering on the 4th shoe. 6 more shoes still hadn't recouped much, it's going to be a busy weekend!!

    I need just under 65 units to get back to even, 165 to reach my original goal target which I had yesterday, 265 over the weekend will suffice. 3 sessions at 100u should fix it :p
     
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    Just wanted to add, I aim to tackle this by using strings consists of 5 x 2's (need to clear 10 of them), incrementing in to the string and betting aggressively. This will leave me scope should the need arise, to gear up, as opposed to simply start betting at a higher unit level, which introduces unnecessary mental pressure. But there's a football game to watch first :)
     

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    First thing I notice when I login

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    Streak of 17, it's fuckin' nuts...
     
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    What a crazy fuckin' shoe

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    I'll be fucked if I can spot the turning points. LOL
     
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    You just gotta laugh

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    Fuck me
     
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    A shoe 59 hands in.
     

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    Creamed.

    First shoe many hours ago. (circled area was the kill zone)

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    This shoe played mechanically killed me. My LW sequence went. (Tw=tie win)

    WL(Tw)LL(Tw)L(Tw)LLLLLL(Tw)LWLLL(Tw)LLWLWWWLWLWLW - first fucking shoe, WTF, thank christ for those ties which slowed down the escalation of my strings.

    Either way, dropped 149 base units against that shoe from hell, the antithesis to my style of play, it felt so bad I literally felt skipping the table, felt targetted, then I thought, it will turn and I will miss the winning bets. The losing runs was made worst by implementing a tweak for column failures which I started using, that is now entirely off the menu. Lost 'a little less' against the next two shoes, before things turned around!! Fuck who needs sessions like this, but hey, the game is what it is, you have to be able to deal with it. Remain focused, at one stage was operating 3 separate unit level sets of strings.

    12 shoes later, ended at 523 base units profit, when I lose, it's just a temporary loan and I charge high interest rates :D
     
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