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Baccarat Live B+M Shoes

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by eugene, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. eugene

    eugene Active Member

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Now I'm lost. The last three hands look like player, tie, player. / or banker, tie, banker.
     
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    Yep, don't ask me why they put the slash for the tie inside the previous hand which in this case was Player.

    They do it like that online. At my local Genting they have an E for (Egalite) which also means Tie and they put that in it's own column.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    ScreenHunter 35.png

    P B P B P B
    P B P B T
    P B
    P

    The results are getting recorded vertically, not horizontal.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have to "P." There is no slash in the second row down in the picture. How do you know it was a tie? I get it. I'm the pigeon.
     
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    Here is the way I think it goes. It starts out blue for player. If the next hand is player it is charted down below the first player. It keeps charting player until it changes to banker where it drops down on repeats if there are some. It just keeps showing the changes in the top row horizontally, left to right. Is the tie not charted? I'll figure this out. I don't even know what a tie is.
     
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  8. eugene

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    You got it!
     
  9. eugene

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    Chances are though that when you are playing, you will have a completely different way of marking things.
    I suppose it depends what you are looking for.
    When you get more into it, you will see that there are different templates (especially online) where they have different 'roadmaps'
    A lot of the Asian players like using some of the different roads. No doubt you will pick up on it as you get up to speed.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Can I keep and fill out my own charts at a B&M casino for Baccarat? I never see idiots like me filling out charts for Craps. I want to do that too.
     
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    It's just a coin flip with a banker tax and whatever ties are. I'm going to kill it. If it is truly random then I can milk the weak spots. I just need to figure out how to keep my seat while laying very low with virtual bets. I hear that you can sit out hands some times. If they want to give me free time I'll take it.
     
  12. eugene

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    Yep, they don't seem to care what you are writing on the cards at the Baccarat table. A lot of the Chinese players are keeping some kind of records at the table. To begin with, I found it a bit awkward because IMO the game seems more sedate and personal than a busy roulette table but at the end of the day, do what you have to do!
     
  13. RouletteGhost

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    when I played baccarat at harrahs saturday night (winning $500 and then losing it on craps, lol) the asian players had cards at the table...its common and everyone does it
     
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    They had cards at the Craps table?

    BTW, the last time I was at the casino I drank beer and thru away my Roulette winnings at the Craps table. Dumb.
     
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    cards at the baccarat table...common everyone does it....then i had too many beers and lost it all on craps like an idiot
     
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    You are betting TBL, or OTBL if you bet opposite 2 lines above you. I understand what you are doing.
    PP
    BBB
    p
    BB
    PPP
    B
    P
    B
    PP
    B
    P
    would be
    PPBBBP
    BBPPPB
    PBPPBP

    I don't see how you expect to achieve anything different than what TBL or OTBL has to offer just betting straight down the shoe without separating it into 6 columns. What significance do the columns offer? I can see none.

    There is nothing here. Don't go down this rabbit hole. Spare yourself.
     
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    LOL No wonder it made no sense :D:D

    BTW- This is what I did when I used to play Roulette back in the day, for the Dozens and Columns, used to write which appeared, then bet next time around that the same Col/Doz wouldn't hit in the same spot.
     
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    i am a fan of matrix style, aka bet against something X number of "spins" back

    as Baccaritic said its likely a rabbit hole but hey i have some free time
     
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    LOL

    Oh no, Turning points and sections, haha where's Glenda?? :D:D

    Most players would have followed them all the way, you would get a lot more than 3 net wins.

    LOL, welcome to the dark side.

    I hate that, it is totally wrong. My local Gentings used to do that, let the the Tie occupy it's own column, it's bullshit. The reason why, it makes all the shoes look choppy when they aren't. So if you get 4 Banks, TIE then 3 more Banks, instead of seeing a column of 7 Banks with a green slash, you used to see 4 Banks in 1 column, then Tie, then in the next column 3 banks, it also meant that all the Ties appeared on the Top line. Really used to screw those players up that played off the score board, bastards will go to any length to confuse players.

    First you can isolate precisely the pattern you lose against, you can also play the odds, as an example, using a 4 column, you have a 93% (off the top of head) chance of winning a bet within a series of 4 bets, no bet the remainder of the column after any win, Only a 1/16 chance of not grabbing a win. Templates as I call them, prefect for random outcomes. I'm not into placing emphasis on non-correlated outcomes, rather take my chances treating random as random.
     
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  20. gizmotron

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    "So the big picture to me is two phase types in the big picture. One side, the first half is more streaky than the second half."

    Oh no, Turning points and sections, haha where's Glenda??

    Actually I have not even started to teach about the last three or four spins back only. When the chaos is all over the place the last spin back is the signal. That's one spin back. When I look for a trend I look for more than twenty conditions based on current conditions. For me it's like reading music and feeling the music. It will take a long while to teach all the things that make up reading randomness.
     

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