Baccarat Make the Claims and Stand the Scrutinies

"I've had casino staff laugh directly at me. I was talking about this earlier, so I've resorted to my records to obtain the exact details.
July 1st 2004, betting FLD $100 units at Adelaide casino, using a Fibo, I and a friend of mine couldn't snare that second win and was 25k down, much to the delight of the managers. This came after two successful previous nights, hence the strong BR. Pit staff laughing at our card calling which invariably failed. This was prior to the casino being 24 hrs operation. Ditched the $100 fibo for $25 Fibo, due to limited remaining BR, starting at 2u level. In the remaining 4 or 5 hours, managed to turn that $25k draw-down into a $10,855 profit. I know only too well what they are like."

Zeus forbid I be disruptive so I start a new thread for this. The above quote is verbatim from the limey his-self. Now turning the 25Ks drawdowns into the 10,855$ profits is quite the feat, I must say. Now turning that drawdown into that profit is a swing of +35, 855$ to the good. Now the limey claim to accomplish this feat using a fib at the 25$ level with the 2 units base wager. So, basically capture just under 36Ks with a fib workin the 50 base units bets. Now some simple maths let us know that to accomplish the feat the boy had to capture 717.1 units NETS PROFITS over the course of 4-5 hours few shoe worth of plays. But hey, fair-dinkums mate anything is possible for cats what NEVER ever have the losings session, can pick off 99.99999% of tie wager what carry the 14-15% house bite and capture 88% winner by mirror the wager of an Oriental cat with the apps, right, hey hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Find a new obsession, nobody cares. Sometimes this place is worse than the lunchroom at a junior high school.

 

Nope, not an obsession I just feel the need to come over the top to refute the bulls-shits claims of cats like the limey and you, what claim to never lose and never face any adversity at the tables. Bulls-shits artist deserve the scorn, ridicule , derisions and mockeries they have coming, hey hey.

 

This goes to show the credibility of the man that posted it.
I'm not going to decipher the math just an eyeball look.

100,200,300,500, that's already 1100 dollars.
800,1300,2199,3400, that's 7600 for a total of 8700 dollars and only 8 misses. Really can't figure out how he got 25k down Using ftl?
50 dollar base bet to recover? he said it was 2 units.

50,75,125,200, and so on. He also said they were laughing because they couldn't hit a second win. Was it a parlay? A drop down? He does not say. Does he now?

He also doesn't say if at some point if he upped his bets back or got lucky when then were elevated. Even a 2 unit 50 dollar bet can sky rocket.

Calling someone out when you can't do simple math? Really? This can be expected from a guy that got all excited when someone claimed 200 units a day at 200 dollars. 40k using Oscar's grind. But of course he bet only on Banker so he had to be legit.

I'm laughing my ass off........ I just had to spell that out for you. Using ILMAO just didn't work in this situation.

And for those that never had casino staff laugh at them. I used to have a dealer that on every lost hand when she drew the death card would always sarcastically groan ahhhhh, ooooh, with a not so well hidden smile on her face. BITCH! The roulette dealer that could shoot would always smirk at the customer and even make snide remarks. But the best thing I seen was a black woman at the craps table totally lose her shit when she overheard two of the dealers whisper something about her.... The pit critter ran over to try and calm the situation to no avail... Both dealers denied they were talking about her of course. But, she cursed them for every thing they were worth. Very entertaining....

 

Soxy .

I just had them(casino staff) laugh at me this last trip after playing 9 consecutive shoes and being up only .3 of a unit.

I need to get my fibo labby strings ready..to redeem myself...

 

Thanks Porky, ain't got time to respond fully to the crap of the OP, but you are right on the money, yes I went back to betting $100 units once my BR improved, I wasn't Parleying, but the Fibo needs either a WW or WLW to resolve.

I've already posted a snippet from my excel spreadsheet for this particular week, I guess I was lucky, who knows. I do have a witnesses for the entire week, alas he is in Oz and doesn't waste his time on forums.

But nice to see cockfan diligently reading my posts and doing some maths.

I've got to catch some Zzzzzz's trip report tomorrow..

 

Well, well, well

Turning a 25k~ish drawdown into a 10k profit in a limited time, sounds a bit far fetched, and that is totally understandable, first off where the hell did the BR come from?? Secondly how the fuck did I do that!!!!

Because it was such a remarkable session, I wrote down at the time all the bets placed for prosperity (as well as to try and avoid such a catastrophe in the future).

Guess what I still have the Excel spreadsheet, I suspected I had it somewhere, I'm tried at the mo, plus I'm having difficultly deciphering what everything means, it was a long long time ago (2004).

I'll gladly post the bet history (recovery only) for this session, I did not record the profit portion (no need), betting $100 per hand, I used to make in the region $3~4k per shoe, more so on any overly streak shoe.

Stay tuned,,, I'll post more details from what I vaguely recall from the week I took 60k in a week, before they decided that they had to take action

I do now have to sleep.....

 

I have my microwave popcorn ready to pop in anticipation , are you a Russian with big KokoNuts too? Lol

 

I used to have big coconuts, now they have shrivelled.

I'm trying to decipher my spreadsheet, I'll also post proof it isn't doctored!! Don't like to say this, but it looks like I lost $23,800 in the one fucking shoe, LOL, FUCK ME. (shit happens when you are young, gungho and stupid)

BTW, I also have the the exact shoes, so the cockfan will be able to marry up the shoes to the bets placed.

I'll give ya a taster, it was all lost and recovered cockfan in 272 bets (4 or 5 shoes, can't work it out), because cockfan, that's how I used to roll, you tool.

As my mat8 said at the time, keep those score cards for history, not that I did back then, but I did type them up for this particular session.

 

Well porky-piglet you recently opine that casinos hopping is a key to winning well and regular, so guess what; that makes you are retard with zero credibility just like the limey Walter Mitty, oink oink, hey hey.

 

You two are funniest thing in a long time and always make me LOL at the insults, I'm smiling right now as i type this. Who in the forum wants.to invest in a PPV fight between this two?

Cockfan lol
PorkyPiglet lol

I.used to chuckle like this while listening to the great Howard Stern while kitchen testing... Now he is woke and does not want to hear about SukingKokonuts...or Ryding Sybians, Or ButterFace contests etc google it princesses..

Last time I remember laughing out loud at a relationship based comedy was a Keenan an Peele skit .. All you guys seem to be divorced losers, including myself so you will relate...
I picture Junky and Soxy Caucasian Flavors of this two.. Junky is the tall one though..in my imagination
This is how junky and Soxy would get along if they didn't both have big kokoNUTS..



Take a second to watch and entertain yourself before comencing the:

CockFan PorkyPiglet BROmance

But at least now i got my new method name, when I change my methods like I changed wives, as everything works until it.doesnt. Or they send the multiple right barcoded shoes your way to attack your KoKonuts methods (sorry punky) shuflers are too smart but i still.take on the challenge..just need to change gears and reverse the bets which is hard for a.mechanical player like me.. that's why I like your version because it goes with the flow and can't be easily attacked, but I still can't get the right flow .. but working in it....

Kuming Soon (that's what she said)

Thread Name:

CockFan PorkyPiglet BROmance Method

CFPG-B Method Version 1

Love u 2 KoKonut grandpas...

Yoyoyo

 

Dam it.

I hate it when I mess up my 5 cent jokes....

CockFan PorkyPiglet BROmance Method

CFPPiG-B Method Version 1

Love u 2 KoKonut grandpas...

 

Lol.
I liked proofreader post title “ back in the saddle” as a method name for a roulette/baccarat. It’s epic.

Then of course you could revise the new updated version as perhaps

“ reverse cowgirl”
Lol.

 

Well just like always Soxfan resorts to name calling. It's all he has when he can't dispute any thing that gets stated.
So first. Do you really think that playing craps and casino hopping won't aid you in finding a hot table? Or how about an ice cold table?
Playing a table with no temp will get you killed. But I guess an expert like yourself can bounce it back and forth.
Second. If you truly played in B and M casinos for 12 years on the Bac tables you never seen those kind of turn arounds and losses?
I see them all the time. But playing in a real casino instead of in the kitchen I'm more likely to.
One of the reasons I seldom engage you on this forum and GG when it was around is your being naive and ignorant of the real world.
Don't feel bad though your not alone people continue to grow more and more stupid just some of you decide to show it off on a regular basis.
I'm testing, I'm testing, I'm testing, tell me when you do all that testing does it change the truth tables?
Testing is fine to get an idea how things with a system will shape up after that anything and read this part it will save you a lot of time. Any thing that comes up as an edge in baccarat is nothing but a wave. It can be for or against some thing. It can last for thousands of shoes or not. The only thing that matters is IF your chosen plays hit in this shoe........

And for those that like stories. I played at a table with a guy on roll. He gets off work and hits this particular casino. Buys in with a couple thousand. Doubles, Triples, or Quads it. No paper just looks at the tote. But, his main play is watching others play. If I doubled my meager bet he might bet a thousand. He told be every time I doubled my bet I would hit. He was betting with the guy to right of him I was sitting on my hands. I bet opposite them on the one of their bets with a double and they lost. He told me he knew better he should of either bet with me when I doubled or sat it out.

Just so you know he only doubled his money that day. One shoe and gone.... Not a bad pay day but in Soxfan world this does not happen the most you can win is one unit a shoe.....

 

Now that you got Jackyl Blaze here you don't need me stirring the pot anymore. LOL

 

I'm everywhere since I only kitchen table test. I gots plenty of time

Which side of this Katfight are you on? I'm neutral... Sox has attacked me though..

Sox are u still testing ur Banker bets, last time I saw it it was 10+k shoes up 6+k but party. Poker went away right?

 

@jackoff. Oops Typo sorry.

Funny smit. I van RELATE!

And the story anout black lady at craps! I'd love to see her chew out those two guys with their tail between their legs. LOL

All us married guys get it. The effin King of Siam has life and death of his subjects at a snap of the fingers. But this bioych he's hanging out with is giving him amazing s*** and he doesn't know what to do. LOL

I got something else to say but she's telling me I have to go now so I'll see you later.

 

Ok to address the TROLL, here is what went down Thursday 1st July 2004. It was a long long time ago (18 years), so naturally memories become frayed.

However I have the records, the proof, as much as the troll tries, he just embarrasses himself, as he is just a piece of dog shit on the sole of somebody's shoe.

I question why I'm doing this, but to be honest I really don't care, I love rubbing his face in it, also I have never claimed to never have lost, probably not whacked as hard as the toll, but yeah I've been beaten.

Here is the properties page from Excel, obviously I've entered all the info while working a night shift at EDS ;-)




First off, let's address the BR. I had a generous line of credit courtesy of HSBC via my mortgage arrangement. I don't know how much I withdrew, probably $10k, which isn't a lot for a $100 chip player using an aggressive Fibonacci. The Bet Selection was strictly FLD, busting through chops via the depth of the Fibo.

On the Monday 28th July looking at my records, I was losing $4800 and eventually won $6600, so now I have a BR of $16k
On the Tuesday 29th July I played 2 separate sessions for a total profit of $17,830, bumping my BR to $33k
On the Wednesday 30th June, I won $9565, for a $42k BR

Then we come to Thursday 1st July, I knew I had recovered from such a massive drawdown, but had totally forgotten the damage was done in one single shoe, which it was, negative $23,800, a tad under $25k

Many tables in the joint, basically we were on our own, no others players, I'm guessing perhaps shoes took no longer than 30 ~ 45 mins. I do recall saying to my mat8 after the first shoe, if this continues, I'm going to blow the profit from the previous 3 days, I'm gonna back off and play a $50 Fibo (if I mentioned a $25 Fibo, then my mistake) and try and get some back. He said ok, but start the Fibo at 2u. It wasn't 100%, without reviewing the placed bet history, I think some winning bets were repeated.

As I say, on the first shoe, the pit crew were openly laughing and wandered off after the damage shoe, let's just say, they weren't smiling when they came back a few hours later, I think I might have said, "you aren't laughing now" haha.

There was no heat, that started the next night.

A disclaimer, back then I never use to save any shoes played nor the separate score cards which my mat8 handled to keep a running count of where I was at chip count~wise. We never left anything on the table and would rip up score cards and deposit them in different bins, which is why I was a bit confused in regards did I play 4 or 5 shoes, It was 5 shoes to recoup and no doubt a couple more shoes for the profit. Sometimes he would rip them up before I could ask him to save them.

I have posted about this particular week a few times in the past on other now defunct forums, I think ProjectSydney was the place to be at the time, I haven't previously shared the bet history, to be honest I don't really care about doing so now, more about that later.

The first shoe (time unknown, 10pm maybe).

Not 100% sure how it started, but what I do know, is that I used to write out the figure 10, get that to zero, that is $1000 less tax, rinse and repeat a few times, go home.

This starts at a count of 11, so maybe I was catering for the half price B6 or it was a carry over from a prior shoe, not sure.

To be honest, I really don't know why the first bet history starts at 10u, perhaps I was carrying over a lost bet from the prior shoe, simply don't remember, so I lose that, meaning my goal target is now 21 which I need to get to zero, I proceed to lose further bets or 8u and 13u, instead of progressing up the Fibo chain, I repeated the 13u bet and lost that too, so now I'm negative 44u ($4400) (11u was the original goal).

As you can see from the bets, on this one shoe alone, I lost 5, 8, 8, 13, 13, 21, 21 and 34u and I'm 20k in the hole. You also have to appreciate I was younger and naive, had access to cash and only played one-way which I knew how, I didn't want to be chopping and changing using OLD or DBL.

Also all we had to do was step away from the table for a few minutes and the dealer would shuffle up on request, end of shoe 50 bets placed, $24k in the hole.

Head spinning no doubt!!!! We start the next shoe, BOLD indicates the end of each shoe, first bet 13u, which was the last lost bet on the prior shoe, then 8u, 13u, at some stage during this shoe, with my confidence shattered, I reverted to $50 Fibo (not $25, my mistake), starting at 2u.

Only approx 34 bets place (shuffle up please), I have recovered to negative $14,400, so basically making $9k from that said shoe (suck that soxfan you troll).

The 3rd shoe, many more bets placed and it ends negative with me negative $9,200 (43J).
4th shoe, I'm playing more of the shoe, when I stepped back up to $100 units, I've no idea but at 15R I'm negative $4,400k, less the original goal target, so in reality $3,400. And by the end of the last shoe and bet 272 I was up $200

I vaguely recall my mat8 saying something along the lines, keep these score cards and frame them, haha

Here you go TROLL..




I just want to add, the shuffle procedures back in 2004, aren't what you see today, it is 3 rifles and back to business, nor of this shimmy across the table crap, does it make a difference, absolute 100%

Here are four of the shoes played, the 5th was probably ripped up, I've no idea if these are the first 4 shoes played, or the last 4 played, I'll leave that for the TROLL to figure out when he pulls himself away from testing his Party Poker shoes where he makes a fictional .6u per shoe.




You can see how the hit rate improved as the session went on.

No doubt given my average on good shoes, I've probably played a further 2.5 shoes to reach the $10,855 profit, 5am closing and we were out the place, Myself and my mat8 would change over $9k each in chips to avoid any tax declaration and I'd take the rest of the chips home.

So now we rook up and never buyin, which annoyed them even more.

Friday 2nd July, is when the heat started and when I say started, it fuckin' started, being followed constantly by security who were talking about us within ear shot in their walkie talkies, we just laughed at them. Which could be considered in hindsight a dangerous move, because if you get too cocky, such as in Perth, they will beat the shits out of you.

Due to wanting to protect what I had already achieved, I applied the same strategy as the night before, $50 Fibonacci starting at 2u, no idea how many shoes played, profit $8,360.

Saturday arvo 3rd July, now I had very senior managers down on the gaming floor eye balling me from afar, I had another closer writing down every bet I placed, it was quite hostile to say the least, I vaguely recall the admin of ProjectSydney asking me why I am winning so much, stay under the radar, $1k per day is enough, i just scoffed and took them for another $9,275

Now here lies the problem, which I didn't know at the time, casinos down-under differentiate between "A Local" vs "A Visitor". A visitor can fly in and win $100k and they try to entice them back, whereas a local is winning on average $12k per day, now you are deemed a threat, because if a local is doing something to beat a game on that scale, there is nothing stopping a local repeating the same 350 days a week (rest days accounted for) and therefore are a threat to their bottom line, this is not an issue with BJ players, as they would simply flat bet them, regardless if they were count or not. Theoretically one could take them for $3.5M per year, theoretically speaking, not that was ever my intent, but they weren't to know that.

As casinos down-under aren't classed as Private members clubs, they couldn't bar me unless I violated their dress code or was drunk and disorderly, instead took other measures, which I've posted about before, so won't go into here, the measures they took, also back-fired on them somewhat as their chip try was emptied out a few times the following Tuesday, but I wasn't there, rather on Holiday in the Gold Coast, but was told about it at the time which was later confirmed by a few regulars when I returned back to base.

So Mr Soxfan you fucking troll, don't ever question my integrity (no doubt you will), but you ain't jack-shit to me, rather your continued crap is more indicative of the weak administration of this web site.


I also would like to take this opportunity to make the the following statement;

I would like to thank many of you on this forum and other boards including my own forums, notably the many coders who have run sims for me over the years, Porkie, a special thanks to Jimbo who I respect massively when it comes to Baccarat, not only a former Pro BJ counter, but managed his own team, Bryan the author of the Mr Oops document, although is not a member of this forum, is somebody I had the great pleasure of spending time with a few years ago, a wealth of information, greater coder who told it like it is. Alas I'll be disappearing soon (wonder of the admin/owner will be pleased LOL) from this forum and all other boards, those that are pleased, well you can kiss my butt, could be permanently, I just don't know, I'll continue posting until that time arrives.

In regards to Baccarat, I think it is fair to say, I'm probably the best player with an online presence, haha. I would however never claim to be the best as I've witnesses some incredible feats at casinos, notably the Chinese players who with a real body-guard took my small local for £190k in two sessions and hardly lost a single hand, truly stunning to watch...

Without wishing to sound like the self-professed great one, I wish all those that actually venture to the tables the best of good fortune.

 

Maybe soc would like to play these first two shoes out of the box this morning. Maybe he has few bets. 50 ways for 5 players and bets Bank he makes three units

 

Soxy too smart of a Kat to reply to this kind of boards anymore... FatheadLax will decipher even with the small deceptions.... Thats why he has a fathead and the lady's(and Punky) love him...

I'll take a crack at it when my kitchen share time comes and if my commodore 64's glow plugs get warm.. if you dont mind... (Go Aggies... I think we witnessed Russian BiG kokoNUTS Money washing)