Baccarat Playing (and Winning) Baccarat Over The Long Term

Gr8, Although I may sound very solid with what I believed, but I am only Human and Baccarat can really get to you in ways you could not imagine. Using a moderate 5 step Marty is the best I have used. It does have decent probability and the losses are not demoralizing.
I totally believe there is other approaches which is at par or better than what I am doing. If someone can go through a session of hands and can decide what is working and what is not and be able to apply what is the most appropriate method to use at that instance is the ultimate skill that I would like to have. I would like to know more and learn more but unfortunately there are very few I can learn from. Good or bad, as long as there is reasoning, I would welcome. NOT just posting results and say I just win.

 

Well my opinion is that just because you're using a certain trigger to place a bet doesn't mean you're not guessing.

So I assume that you keep your strike rate and you have discovered that you win just a tad over 50% of your bets?

 

What members need to realise, due to the Global Pandemic which escaped from the Wuhan Lab in China, casinos shut, profits down.

As the world slowly re-opens, business are looking to recoup their losses, make up for lost profits, in particularly those businesses that have no morals, those that have a history of engaging in notoriously UN-scrupulous activities, shills will be on over-time, you understand me?

We've seen it before on the Glen as well as other boards. newbie turns up, I've won this, this and that, by doing this and that, trust me, proof, I can prove it, blah de blah wank. Desperate forum gamblers latch on, some lurkers will actually venture to their local, blow their wad, never reporting back to warn others.

Do your homework, if it smells like a crock of shit, then you should flush....

 

I wrote on another thread that sometimes I wonder does people posting here really play or not...

The thing is, I've gambled for quite some time...and from what I learned, every system especially BS, will work sometime and won't for another time...

I dare to say that there is none that could help me get more winning streak in all these years.

But still I always open for a new 'system', just to see if there's something to add to my arsenal.

I prefer the emotional approach, like LY's thread, where we discuss of how to 'mentally' prepared to treat Baccarat, or how we handle losing streak, or how we maximize winning streak.

But sadly, many focus more to the technical side, which imho won't help much.

To learn, practice and apply new system is not hard to do, but to discipline yourself, keep the 'chimp' down, would take years to master.

Everything is easier to say/write than done...

 

OK, so then "say/write" it down.

Near thirty years and counting, and to this day, I STILL carry a written-out bac card that fits neatly under cards that I'm using to track the current shoe...and I refer to it as necessary. When, you might ask? Usually after a couple of really bad beats, or simply as a session might be dragging on longer than usual, or it could be as simple as I feel as if I'm losing a bit of focus...whatever the reason, my "P & D" cards are invaluable to me.

As far as some technical play, Garfield...I offer you my favorite:

Track the singles. I'm not necessarily referring to PBPBP...etc.; rather more like PPP B PP B PP...a bit of a "dom" (read: domination)...happens often where one side or the other will dominate the current results. A rather "P & D"...Patient and Disciplined...bac player could learn much about winning in this and certain other scenarios.

As always, I wish it for all. Take care and stay well.

 

I have a question for Baccarat players I like to ask ;
if you see the following results as a example;

BPPBBBPBPBBPPPP

is there any groups , singles, doubles, triplets, that have a better chance then 50/50 to win in the long run ?
lets said you wanted to play a Marty of 5 or 6 bets, where would you have a better chance to succeed ???
long term winning of course, or do you think long term they all have the same exact chance to hit ?
and I know banker wins a little more, but apart from that, if you just were to play "player" ???

I just would like to hear from some of you, would appreciated.
does certain places have a mathematical long term advantage within a shoe ?
(without doing any type of formula, like PBBB,PBBB then betting it wont repeat)
something different then that.

Regards,

 

I really don't know when I will lose or how much I could win. But one thing for sure is the Mindset of wanting to survive and win a little. This mindset would take the greed out and the patience needed to avoid losses which is lurking with every series you attempt.
I have said before those daily target wins do not happened on day one. It's through a lot of winning and losing and all the little things that comes with it like the wait times, fatigue, level of concentration. It's all routine work without the clock in and clock out. To me, this whole package is discipline. Many people are very determined to challenge themselves on discipline but as the losses pile up and all it takes is one successful deviation and there goes the discipline.
As the the guessing part, nobody is ever sure of BS even it is a 5 series hand.The probability of winning at least 1 out of 5 is enough to turn guessing to almost sure thing. Some people often asked about the crucial hand 5 which is a 16 unit bet. I initially have a tough time making this bet but after a while it is easy because I don't think of 5 individual hands but 1 hand with 5 tries.. An occasional loss is actually a healthy thing because it will keep you in check and serious about winning and losing. The long string of wins do make me become corky and laziness comes in when preparation work is needed for next day for the next day.

 

Yeap. The play is called a fork trend. The pattern looks like a fork with even or uneven runs. Long B,P or chops is NOT the biggest loser for the casino BUT the perfect fork trend is, especially the 2nd hand in the run side and against the single hand.

 

So including commission looks like you got to have32 wins to offset one bust out. Hardly seems like "almost sure thing."Ever have 2 bust outs in a row? How many bets have you logged this way?

 

Well, there is one bet most people swear by. Some just use OG or Labby playing it. It the hand called "Turn around and smile"
A Dragon run in Baccarat means a run of 6 hands or more. When you see a 6th you hear people say Dragon. The 7th hand is called Dragon's tail.
Anytime you have a Dragon run of 6 or more and it stops with an opposite, REBET THE DRAGON SELECTION.
Another popular bet is when someone kept chasing the B or P on tilt and gave up whether they leave or not, you BET that hand next.
It is all fallacy with no Mathematical advantage but for some reason it DOES appear to be true. Ha!Ha!

 

Oops, my last posted answer to Rinad did not print as well as I'd hoped for. It appears we'd need to hit "click to expand" to see the full post.

 

Worst record is 2 bust out of 3 series. Took 2 weeks off and resume. The one thing I can tell you is things don't happen with everything laid out in front of you. The waiting times. The unit by unit. The # of shoes. Time actually makes the recouping of a bust feels like winning although you are recouping and not winning. Before you know it, a week is passed and you are ahead again. It is a ZIG ZAG graph and you have to get use to it. The is the Patience part.
Another thing is the Hit & Run is priceless. It is the move that makes you feel like winning is the NORM and losing is a surprise. I urge you to just try with a Baccarat program generating hands and use Hit & Run to win 1 unit a day. You will soon see the difference. Probability and short term? Who does that in real play?

 

Haha, that should be fairly obvious

That said, despite playing on average 6 nights per week for over a decade, I'm not playing at the mo, haven't done so for over a year.

Absolutely NOT.

Prior hands have no bearing on any future hand, which is why I personally focus on mechanical methods of play, and put all my focus and mental energy on MM, Bet selection is a fallacy in the grand scheme of things, again just my opinion, based on my early experience with the game, which lead me to playing the game professionally for many many years.

 

I appreciate your feed back guys . I know people very seldom believe just "opinions", and everyone begs for "facts", "true data", "proof".
so there is data I collected myself from real casino shoes. back in the days you had to paid for information, today it is so easy to get.
years back I purchased 300 shoes , data from a actual player because you could not just get free info or data like today, and so I did. I study the shoes looking for a advantage.
here is the irony . I found it and somehow got involve with roulette because there was no baccarat where I leave and so roulette was much more practical. I put away my binder with my infos and data that I had collected and never went back to even bother opening it again. that until a week ago when I was cleaning my office and try to put things in order.
I opened that old book and see what I had collected.
after each singles, doubles, triplettes ,ect.....what would happen as a example if everytime I see a double like PP or BB and I placed a bet ? if lost I would again do the same thing and wait to see it.
would the losing streaks be more or less, or the same as just following a single, ect....?

and so I wrote a name for each one.
GB1 = consecutive runs before getting a singleton. that is what GB1 means. here are the results.
10,8,9,9,8,8,8,9,10,8,9,9,14,10,8,9,8,8,9,9,8,9,9,8,9,10,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8.
these are the longest losses in a row that I recorded .
in other words, not a very good bet . longest was 14 in a row.

let me introduce you now to GB2. (groups of consecutive runs before getting a doubleton or doublette . PP/BB.
5,5,5,5,7,5,7,5,5,6,5,5,5,8,5,5,7,6,5,6,6,6,9,7,5,5,6,7,6,5,8,5,8,7,5,6,8,9,7,5,5,5,11,7,7,6,6,5,5,6,5,5,6,5,7,5,5,5,5,5,8,8,7,6,6,5,5,5,11,6,5,4,6,5,5,6,7,10,6,6,5,6,5,5,7,6,5,5,6,5,5,5,6,7,6,5,5,5,5,6,5,6,7,5,8,5,5,5,5,5,6,5,8,5,6,5,6,6,7,5,5,8,7,11,7,6,5,5.
here are facts collected from live shoes.
I also have more, but as anyone can see there is a definite math advantage in playing GB2 as oppose to GB1.
if consecutive losses are shorter, and they are then those of GB1 , it means it is not like some experts said , like flipping a coin, or that it makes no differences.
look how many 9,10,11 losses in a row we have compared to GB1 ???
that should be good news to everyone and it is. not a opinion of mine, just facts. I have done other groups as well. and remember we have no virtual losses incorporated in those numbers.
what if we wait for 3 virtual losses of GB2 and begin playing a Marty of 6,7 legs deep ???

God bless,

 

I think that some of you cats dwell in the alternate reality universe where the drawing rule of the baccarats don't exist and players dom are commons place, hey hey!

 

I just delivered stats that exist in reality , now players can take from it what ever they want or leave it. just the messenger and those are not manufactured by anyone exept by the odds of the game. hard cold facts , so no one can said its always the same 49/51 chance no matter where the bet is. according to those 300 shoes there are differences that are obvious and anyone can check their own stats.

 

those stats can be played by banker only as well so voila, still will show a advantage.

 

Think for a moment. The hands are formed by randomising cards in a shuffling machine. All the hands are created by chance. There is nothing to exploit. Your findings does help you in making decisions what to bet and that is all to it.
Compare to the game of Casino Craps and Roulette. If the dice or the ball goes off 1 second earlier of later, would the results still be the same? It could be the same and it could be something else because the timing is different.

I think everyone should do Baccarat SELF-TRAINING like any other competitive activities. You can use a template, or fixed bet on one side. Play every hand against a home hand shuffled 8 deck Baccarat and see how you react to wins and losses. I do that at work every scheduled work day. Helps me stay focused and make better decisions. This can develop focus and control IMO which supersedes hunting for a playing method.

 

how do you explain the results showing after doubles ? they average in 6,7,8 s while you see the first results in high 9,10,11, and higher ? cant be a coincidence . I bet the next 300 shoes would show the same differences. these are facts that losing streaks are shorter . how can that be explained ???