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Baccarat QUOTE OF THE DAY

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I agree with you. It also applies to Roulette. 1's, 2's, and 3's are the most dominate forms of patterns. They dominate the most possibilities and frequencies of occurrences of just about everything. It's stands to reason that you would want to know if they have moments that these dominating sequences act like a "Tell" in poker. I pointed out singles on the weak side as just one example. I showed just with that one pattern how you can use the 1's. The monster sized trend is so rare each session that it is almost a waste of time waiting for it.

    The secret to trend play is in the short spans of 1's, 2's, or 3's. They sometimes swarm in patterns. These sequences can be good for one or two wins. The entire battle to win is found in these short bursts of coincidence. That is where I am a master of the subject. I just opened the door to them in Reading Randomness. I never went deep into teaching this. Teach yourselves. It's the only way to gain experience.

    Now for some more music from a real master:

     
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  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    \People like Junket King learned their lesson not to apply the Fibonacci in a trending patter. He was bitten by a 34 init loss at the final stage .



    He also blasted Frank Barstow for another one of his losses . Blaming dealers and badly shuffled desks are also god excuses by losers
     
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  3. Joey Torres

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    Hi Soxfan & Giz,

    What MM will you recommend playing 1,2,3s?

    Thanks
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I recommend that you play the smallest that the table will allow when you don't see a 1, 2, or 3 that looks promising. It could be a streak, of 2's or a repeating pattern of 3's or 1's. Once you see it then just try to get one win off of it at a bigger price that your bankroll can stand. I use $1 chips for the small price and $5 chips for the bigger price. Some people say to get one win at the full price and the next attempt at half that price. It's all about grinding out one or two wins at a time. There are more 1's, 2's, or 3's in the streaks or patterns than there are of all the big super streaks of trends combined. That is the point of that thread. So I look for swarms. That is my MM. Just sit back at the cheap price until the swarms come to you.
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Gizmo , I am going after a trend at the first sign with the 212 HPB series immediately. I have no desire to tickle the table with the lower UB.

    Personal MM MO. For me a trend starts immediately when my bet selection shows. Why wait . Go for it . Then stop with the first loss and get ready for the next trigger .
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The problem with Baccarat is that it only has one column to get trends from. Roulette allows me to observe 6 columns at the same time. I have never done this before. I'm going to go down each column and describe what I see. One column might be lousy while another looks very promising.

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     W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP 
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     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  03  --  01 
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     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  05  --  15 
     nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  06  --  37 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  07  --  23 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  08  --  17 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  09  --  07 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  10  --  01 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  11  --  35 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  12  --  34 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  13  --  15 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  14  --  12 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  15  --  16 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  16  --  15 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  17  --  10 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  18  --  35 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  19  --  16 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  20  --  16 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  21  --  29 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  22  --  12 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  23  --  21 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  24  --  09 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  25  --  24 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  26  --  30 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  27  --  15 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  28  --  20 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  29  --  17 
     nb| X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  30  --  33 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  31  --  28 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  32  --  07 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  33  --  20 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  34  --  20 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  35  --  18 
     nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  36  --  13 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  37  --  02 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  38  --  10 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  39  --  15 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  40  --  22 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  41  --  26 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  42  --  12 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  43  --  25 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  44  --  30 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  45  --  05 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  46  --  01 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  47  --  06 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  48  --  08 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  49  --  06 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  50  --  07 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  51  --  35 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  52  --  19 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  53  --  20 
     nb| X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  54  --  33 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  55  --  19 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  56  --  27 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  57  --  20 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  58  --  28 
     nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  59  --  13 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  60  --  11 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  61  --  32 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  62  --  16 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  63  --  02 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  64  --  29 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  65  --  19 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  66  --  19 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  67  --  09 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  68  --  34 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  69  --  27 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  70  --  04 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  71  --  23 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  72  --  04 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  73  --  34 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  74  --  03 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  75  --  35 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  76  --  07 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  77  --  34 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  78  --  30 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  79  --  30 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  80  --  08 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  81  --  14 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  82  --  34 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  83  --  02 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  84  --  15 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  85  --  23 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  86  --  08 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  87  --  36 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  88  --  06 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  89  --  23 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  90  --  34 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  91  --  14 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  92  --  30 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  93  --  26 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  94  --  06 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  95  --  21 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  96  --  03 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  97  --  04 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  98  --  04 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  99  --  16 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  100  --  30 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  101  --  28 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  102  --  17 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  103  --  28 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  104  --  08 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  105  --  10 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  106  --  06 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  107  --  02 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  108  --  25 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  109  --  23 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  110  --  26 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  111  --  07 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  112  --  10 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  113  --  09 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  114  --  16 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  115  --  25 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  116  --  25 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  117  --  16 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  118  --  05 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  119  --  34 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  120  --  24 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  121  --  35 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  122  --  14 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  123  --  32 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  124  --  14 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  125  --  27 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  126  --  24 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  127  --  29 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  128  --  20 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  129  --  05 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  130  --  34 
     nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  131  --  13 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  132  --  09 
     nb| X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  133  --  33 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  134  --  09 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  135  --  17 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  136  --  32 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  137  --  17 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  138  --  15 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  139  --  27 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  140  --  24 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  141  --  17 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  142  --  12 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  143  --  14 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  144  --  15 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  145  --  27 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  146  --  15 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  147  --  19 
     nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  148  --  01 
     nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  149  --  13 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  150  --  17 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  151  --  17 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  152  --  16 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  153  --  30 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  154  --  05 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  155  --  32 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  156  --  26 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  157  --  04 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  158  --  16 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  159  --  12 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  160  --  12 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  161  --  16 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  162  --  07 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  163  --  30 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  164  --  04 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  165  --  34 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  166  --  10 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  167  --  17 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  168  --  02 
     nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  169  --  37 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  170  --  14 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  171  --  19 
     nb|    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  172  --  34 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  173  --  19 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  174  --  10 
     nb| X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  175  --  28 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  176  --  11 
     nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  177  --  17 
     nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  178  --  37 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  179  --  06 
     nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  180  --  30 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  181  --  04 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  182  --  21 
     nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  183  --  07 
     nb| X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  184  --  31 
     nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  185  --  21 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  186  --  35 
     nb| X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  187  --  02 
     nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  188  --  13 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  189  --  25 
     nb|    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  190  --  14 
     nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  191  --  13 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  192  --  25 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  193  --  18 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  194  --  25 
     nb| X    |    X | X    |    X |   | X |  --  195  --  08 
     nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X | X |  --  196  --  23 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  197  --  20 
     nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  198  --  22 
     nb|    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  199  --  16 
     nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  200  --  29
    
    Starting with the first column to the left, the Black | Red.

    Looking down I see 17 spins in a row with singles on the weak side then it has a triple hit once on the weak side where it then dies out slowly. Then singles on the weak side changes sides for a while. Next an absence of singles forms up starting at spin number 53. Then there is a short burst of singles on the week side starting at spin 64. Then starting at spin 89 you get an absence of singles for 20 spins. Then there is a triple singles followed by 16 more spins that are absent from singles. Between spins 130 and 148 you have a swarm of singles and doubles only. There is a total absence of triples. At spin 147 you have a swarm of absence of singles. It's sort of chaos from there on to spin 200.

    Now let's look down the Odd | Even column.

    Singles on the weak side that changes sides half way through the first 20 spins. Goes chaotic down to spin 77 where it goes real strong on the strong side while being 1's or 2's on the weaker side. This goes on for 23 spins. It has a couple micro patterns down to spin 141. Then it goes singles on the weak side from 152 to 175. it finishes to spin 200 in chaos.

    Next let's look at the Low | High column.

    The low is the dominate side all the way down to spin 50. This is the easiest trend to see. If you flat bet when only seeking the dominate side then you can edge out a few wins at the big price. Yes, there are many zig-zag break even switches. But there is clearly one dominate side. From spin 59 to spin 96 there is a total absence of the dominate side. There are only two triples. The rest are 1's or 2's. This is a swarm of 1's and 2's. Between 104 & 121 there is an absence of singles. Between 130 and 139 is a micro patch of a perfect 1's-- 2's, strong side weak side pattern. If this were to continue for 30 spins it would be an Elegant Pattern. Starting at 137 down to 170 you have a strong side dominance.

    Next let's look down the Zeros | Sixes column.

    It opens with the first 40 spins with only two singles. Next it has a short patch of singles on the weak side down to spin 57. from spin 59 down to 95 it changes and becomes chaotic with only 2 triples. It's a dominance of 1's and 2's. Spins 100 to 117 have singles on the weak side. It's chaos down to 150. It goes singles on the weak side down to spin 168. It's more or less without form all the rest of the way.

    So that's 4 of the 6 groups that can be watched all at once and all at the same time. If your skills are not trained to read the charts like this then you have no idea what Reading Randomness is about. Beyond just seeing the micro streaks you must have knowledge on how to exploit all this without getting buried in a losing streak. In MM it's your loss management that matters the most. These are just places to take a few net wins. They are like a surfer waiting for better sets of wavers. You are just reacting to what comes. The smartest players will just try to take one or two net wins from any micro streak. Waiting for the monster sized win streak is almost pointless. Randomness is loaded with miniature coincidental packets of opportunity. It all comes down to knowing how to exploit them.

    There. I should have done this years ago. Now you have an inside clue on how to see RR.
     
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  7. soxfan

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    The 1s 2s 3s 4s make up the bulk of streaks event at the baccarats. So, it make sense logical that the shrewd cat gonna make his cake against the most common streaks event and just accept gettin clipped by the comparative rare 5+ streaks. Some peoples actually thi nk that the baccarats is a game of frequent, longs streak but it ain't, hey hey.
     
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  8. Nathan Detroit

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    I am doing great with BNKER at baccarat . Nuff said . For the other table game some cats jump among the 6 EC like a monkey on a banana tree.


    Three will do the trick there.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Nobody is interested in RR at the BACCARAT table .Smart cats do not even bother with past decisions they go for the "Here is now" approach.
     
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    That is wonderful news. Thanks.
     
  11. Lungyeh

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    Is that my Rhodesian Ridgeback (RR) you are naming? Lmao
     
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    Ahem,i am my game is based on rr .
     
  13. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmotron those cats don't need RR they are busy dismantling old shoes .
     
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  14. Junket King

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    At least I play, if you're mentioning losers, look no further than your mirror Kurt, those that live on gambling sites 24/7 are too broke to gamble, being here gives them that weird gambling fix which they crave. .

    Barstow ended up broke too by the way.


    Only a multiple bank system can handle playing OLD, search my "String MM Method.
     
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  15. Nathan Detroit

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    After the Fibonacci and Frank Barstow debacle what other advise ? Just curious.
     
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    Bbbbbbbbbwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh good to see the john-O emerge from his command bunker in scouserville to make the scene. But the Frank Barstow didn't die broke, far from it, hey hey.
     
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    I would attack the 1s 2s 3s 4s with the grand marty as it match up well and gonna give ya better than one units profits for every winnings bet. Also, only run anti-streaks style against the players streak and never, EVER bet against the bankers streak and save yer self some griefs, hey hey.
     
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    All we need now is another appearance by the Great Player, hey, hey.

    Or, how about that Garnabby guy?
     
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  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Gr8Player is a gentleman and Grabby is a victim of bad drinking water in Kitchener Ontario.
     
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    Must be from, the good part of, the same lake that Soxfan bellies up to. Ha.
     

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