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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So here are the basic figures for a three net win session funded by a seven net loss session:

    Chip Values with 18 numbers: $1 = $18, $2 = $36, $3 = $54, $4 = $72, $5 = $90, $10 = $180, $15 = $270, $20 = $360, $25 = $450.

    Bankrolls for 7 net losses: $1 = $126, $2 = $252, $3 = $378, $4 = $504, $5 = $630, $10 = $1,260, $15 = $1,905, $20 = $2,520, $25 = $3,150.

    I recommend having three times the lost sessions value as the full working bankroll, once you are good at this. So at $1 chips I would need three times $126, or about $400.
     
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    as one peer here you are far superior to anything read by me. you help me figure out the puzzle most all fighting here over. last night i winning a sum of $425.00 after lose two bet of $75.00 each. I was win greater than $500.00 and i read how you wager and suggestions. i thinking to stop my job and become professional real player. thank you sir and the idea about index cards!
     
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  3. gizmotron

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    Just so you know. The one student reached 4.66 won sessions at 3 net wins for each lost session at 7 net losses after the first month of instruction and lots of practice. So to be clear. He lost sessions. You will lose sessions and session bankrolls. I would not quit any jobs just yet. You want to know what your wins to losses ratio is first. If you don't go to different casinos they will notice your activity.
     
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    So I got these questions:
    1.) When do you bet exactly?
    2.) After 2 in a row of one?
    3.) How long do you bet it for?
    4.) When you incur a loss what do you do?

    1.) I don't have an exact rule. I have situational conditions that tend to continue. If it is chaotic then I don't see anything in the shape of a form. You just look at what you got and see if you see any repeating formation. I always try to see the biggest picture. When you see a strong side and a weak side you want to get a big picture for what is going on in each side. I bet to win just one net win from a trend. I'm really lucky to get two net wins from the same pattern. I chip away at the trends just to get three net wins. It's so very small and well within the range of a few net wins to win the session.

    2.) I'm guessing that you are reading about the 1, 2, stepped progression. This really comes down to practicing it so much that you know the answer yourself just from experience. Three flat bets at 1 are good enough. It's important to see the value of getting just three net 1 wins and done. All you need is large enough bets to make that small of a goal as being worth the trouble. If you play to have 20 net wins then you are in for a lot of disappointment.

    3.) I just play sessions until I get my three net wins.

    4.) If that loss is part of singles on the weak side then I just go back to the other side for the win. All that must happen to win from this situation is that singles continue on the weak side. Otherwise if I get two losses in a row it is because the weak side lost and the strong side bet lost also. That's different. The pattern or the trend ended. So on two losses I go back to virtual bets. I wait until something comes up. This is the reason I bet the outside table EC's and the three groupings that I personalized from the inside layout using straight up numbers. With six simultaneous data feeds I often find another trend of some kind.

    Once in a while the trend in one group will start up in another group. By example a strong side and singles on the weak side could occur for a while in the Black/Red group and as it ends the same trend could start to continue in the Odd/Even group. This happens. It's like a cosmic swarm of a single characteristic dominating for far more than just the length of common trends. You can hammer the casino when this happens. I'm an advocate for getting your three net wins and done. But if you see a giant swarm of trends then what the heck. Let them have it.
     
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    you can answer this? why do the highest amounts of the players i watch wager the other way than you say?

    also second question. i do not see the need to get those comp or free stuff the food outside casino is cheaper and better but really i rather be away from that place with my money i won. what is the reason those all stay so long, get comp and then lose the money they won. does not make reasoning to me?
     
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    i did win another $340 today using what i read you said here. i wager four times and lost last one so i left with $340 wining.
     
  7. Junket King

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    Amazing info there Mark, a lot is not applicable to the game of Baccarat, maybe I should put my game on the back-burner?

    Wonder how Rusty is doing? Haven't heard from him in a while!! Shudder to think about the top secret advice he received. :D:D:D
     
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    1.) Look up "Gambler's Fallacy." They think because a thing has happened so much that the opposite is due. I once watched some businessman type walk up to the table and because he saw six reds in a row on the marquee he placed bet after bet on black $1,000 each time. I watched him feed the casino $9,000 on nine bets on black. He walked away and I just looked at the dealer in silence. It was way too sad to laugh.

    2.) The sports bar has the best Buffalo Chicken Hot Wings in 100 miles. They make them on a heat scale of #4 being typical. #5 is tangy hot. #6 makes your nose runny and is on the edge of all I can stand. They go all the way up to #10 if you want them. And they have live music on weekends as well as the bar showing all kinds of live sporting events. The free rooms are $120 a night. I am on the road when I gamble so why not take the free rooms. Funny though, the comps are never more than about $30 to $40 per day in points because I don't actually stay much more than a couple of hours per session. I play one session on arriving day and two sessions on the second day. I don't play on leaving day.

    3.) Most of them are recreational players that just play for entertainment value. They believe they are supposed to lose. They don't read randomness. Some are idiots that play worthless progressions that work most of the times. It's fun to play progressions if you don't actually expect to win in the long run. It takes self control and discipline to consistently beat the casino. That is why I never chase the big winners unless it unfolds while going after my three net wins per session. You can play all day looking for one huge win streak. More than likely you will dig deep holes waiting for them too. Don't dig deep holes. Just wait for the little opportunities and take the three net wins and stop the session.
     
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    I probably should know this but who is Rusty?
     
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    Rustyshackleford -- I found it.

    So what about consequences?
     
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    Once watched a Chinese business man walk up to table I was playing, waited for 3 Players and put $10k on the Bank and lost, Player streak stopped at 4. So he pulled out another 10k, waited for 3 players in a row put it all on Banker and lost again and left. Most ironic thing was, I was actually playing Anti-streak wait for 4 in a row before betting the opposite and was winning LOL, felt like following him outside and having a word, but thought, nar none of my business.

    haha ask the black & low fella.

    Rusty a member here was stuck for MM idea's, so I started a well meaning thread for him, ND steps in and sent him some top secret JP copy-writed regress shit, he since disappeared. I only mentioned it, because of some snide comment ND made regarding Jacob from the Philippines who I was giving some Baccarat MM advice to who has also disappeared. The snitch will have to get up earlier if he thinks there will be no comebacks to his snidey comments, his latest trick is to like any post that slags me off, what a wombat, LOL

    Here you go Mark, slag me off in the reply and you'll get a like from ND, but I won't grass you up the admin, unlike you know who!!!!
     
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    Forgot to mention when you posted these. When I played Roulette circa 2007, I also used to chart in a very similar manner. I didn't track as many options as yourself, and applied what I saw differently no doubt, but more-or-less charted the exact same way. I'm sure I've posted an example on some defunct web-site years ago, it's been so long, can't recall what i did, anyway, just wanted to mention it ;)
     
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    John Patrick's up and pull is for shit. That should endear me to ND. Flat betting or 1, 2, betting is much better. If your jump from 1 to 2 fails then you flat bet 2's until you recover the lost 2. And this is for strong side against singles on the weak side. There are times when the trend suggests two wins in a row. It's just a tactic that fits the situations. JP's up and pull makes you try for four wins in a row. That's not a great idea when getting the first win is just 50 /50. So, if you see streaks on the strong side you can bet 1 unit on the first bet and let the house's money ride one time on the second bet. Boom Badda Bing you have your three net wins. Now go do something else. Getting two in a row while there is a run on Banker would do the trick.
     
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    I wonder if anyone is downloading my practice software. It is offered as a straight download executable or in a zipped folder. I will move the files off the link tomorrow night some time. The next day I will post the secret decoder ring access code.

    I wonder if anyone is getting it? It makes practice a real fun time. It even does combo bets like all the black and low numbers, all 9 of them. You can even bet on all the black, low, and even numbers if you want. It does the math for your win and lose amounts and posts what you selected before the next spin. It's the machine that makes practicing easy. And you can look at a graph any time you want and then go back to the chart with a single click.
     

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    Shhhusshhhh don't say that.
    recall that old CaptXI fella on the Glen wouldn't have a bad word said about JP LOL, JP, Izak, few of the scammers appeared and left with tails between their legs, great days on the forum.

    BUTT he loves you, because we fall out LOL.

    And now the other crazed one has dug himself up and were all mat8's once again, myself excluded of course :D:D:D:D
     
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    LOL! :)
     
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    Hey just popped over to the Glen, No Virus alerts, yippee. Now you can browse and search for old posts...

    Wonder if Glenda bought it and cleaned it up LOL. (j/k)
     
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    Yeah, It was Spike and me against Ken. Ken was on the rampage to use progressions against the coldest numbers. Spike was paranoid that all I wanted was his secret. So he exploded as spandex boy and was going to make sure everyone on planet earth would know that he never told me his secret. Funny that. He actually never did tell me his banana on a string trick. But it was so fun trashing him anyway. I'm sure he thought he got the best of me too. GG was the Wild West.
     
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    It certainly was, I learnt so much on that board, Mark Howie and his binary "truth" tables, Sam Redman and this Pattern Capturing. It was a hoot all the scammers making appearances to defend themselves, I got threaten to be sued about half a Doz times, LOL

    Art in Canada was a good guy, strange I thought, I got more emails from Canada than anywhere else LOL

    "don't feed the scammers"
     
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    Art in Canada. He managed to flog the Matrix to death. He and I went around and around for years. He was a guitar player that knew the secret Santana chord or rif or something like that. That was OK.
     
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