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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Wow, we got a TurboBago in here... how much do you sell that? Where can i sign? Are you a dealer from a casino? Do you care only if i bet high?
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, I guess I'll try it for a while. The last number was 8 so I will go with the domination on low numbers for the next spin. (Low 18) to win
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

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    Last number Euro wheel # 8 next spin #23 to win.

    American wheel # 8 next spin # 19 to win .



    ND
    Man of wheels.
     
  4. 6th-sense

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    correct next number is 18
     
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Next will my guess will be a virtual bet selection backed by no money on the high 18.

    So for this test my bets are 100 units or 0 units for virtual bets. I'm at +100 now. If the session is very difficult then I will try to stop at +300. If it is easy I will stop at +200 to +700. I have mentioned already that this is my style.

    My playing chart looks like this so far:
    Code:
    | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |
    |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |
    |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |
    | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |
    | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |
    | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |
    |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |
    |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |
    |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |
    |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |
    |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |
    | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |
    |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |
    
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Just in case you want to know what those groupings are on the right side of the chart they are this:

    1,2,3,9,10,13,14,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,35,36,37, into zro
    4,5,6,7,8,11,12,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,31,32,33,34," into sxs

    1,2,3,4,5,6,7,11,12,17,18,23,24,27,28,31,32,37," into prm
    8,9,10,13,14,15,16,19,20,21,22,25,26,29,30,33,34,35,36," into nPrm

    1,5,10,11,12,13,15,20,21,22,23,25,30,31,32,33,35,37," into spcl
    2,3,4,6,7,8,9,14,16,17,18,19,24,26,27,28,29,34,36," into nSpcl
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So we hear all about streaks that come in different sizes, shapes, and patterns. We get people that devise different sized progressions with different type steps. It's known as MM. Something I taught my students was the absence of identifiable trends. The absence of an obvious trend is also a useful sequence. It takes a while but if you try to see this then you can use it. You just ask yourself that if a patch of spins, roll of the dice, or hands keep doing what it is currently doing then what would the next outcome be. You would be surprised just how good at this you can get. This method also creates a resource to generate an effectiveness chart or data stream from results of guesses.

    Some people try to tell you that mathematically you still have the same chance. But what they always overlook in saying that is that mathematical probability does not prevent streaks of favorable effectiveness from occurring. It's convenient to say that math rules all outcomes. But what always strikes me as funny is that for some reason math is always negative for you. If you don't look at data, where you can see an obvious continuation of events, then you are sort of blind to what is right underneath your noses.

    Telling someone that they don't see something because they are not looking at it is a new form of racism. In this world of totally fucked up people, all opinions are considered the truth and therefor any disparaging comment is considered personally offensive. Life is often a lesson where you end up eating a shit sandwich. This generation that has been brainwashed into thinking that all opinions are truth, and that there is no real truth, which is often offensive to them, well I'm glad they are stuck on stupid. "Fuck them if they can't take a joke." So this truth is there for those that open their eyes wide open.
     
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  8. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I wonder what part of the post above "Black & Low only" ND actually liked?

    How is the super secret bet positive winning system since 1928, bet Bank after Bank coming along for ya Nathan??

    Capture Nathan.JPG

    Chirping in here and there, while posting, SQUAT.

    This is a GAMBLING FORUM Nathan, people wanna learn how to win, not a "let's be pleasant to the OAP's gathering". Pleasantries don't put food on the table.
     
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  9. gizmotron

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    I have always hated Black & Low. It's absurd to say the least. It's the same as only betting on Red. It's the same as always betting the Pass line. All it ever does is confirm the house edge.
     
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  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Nathan loves it, it is all he ever posted on the GG board for over a decade. then after he was only playing for a comp' meal.
     
  11. gizmotron

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    One net win pays me as much as playing $100 bets for 8 hours. I know I can win one net win every time I go to play at a casino. I have thousands of hours playing and have never had a point that I never made it to one net win up at some point. Course if you are just going to barge ahead without looking to see if you are in a losing streak starting out then you need to keep up the good work of keeping the lights on. Playing just for comps is an idiots game. I know there are writers that sell their advice to talk people into being comp hunters. It's dumb. If you minimum bet at many casinos for 4 hours you might earn yourself $10 worth of points.
     
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  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Keeping the lights on :D:D:D

    ND thinks it's an art, according to many posts on GG :D

    Waiting to see he ND "likes your post", I've done it for him :D:D:D:D
     
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  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    One thing about ND all these years. He's a John Patrick "up and pull" fan. He likes the 2,1,2.
     
  14. Junket King

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    Yeah I know, but it is doomed for failure if you lose for example your first 2 bets, perhaps that is why he leave the table?
    I own JP's book, "so you wanna be a gambler!, Baccarat", was made up when I got it, I was a newbie back then, thought one could learn to beat the game by reading about it in book. I had a lot to learn and was just finding my way in the game :D
     

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    I got one of his books too. I even joined his forum for a while. He has some wisdom but he did a poor job of explaining it. "3 and out." "Up and pull." And I'm not sure how he explained trends. I tried to suggest the existence of characteristics and it was like talking to a vegetable. If he had not thought about it or already written it in one of his books he was just not interested. It was like he was apathetic towards actual discussion. I took it that way and departed with my knowledge. So I figured that his forum was just networking and selling books. You can't blame him for that. Kimo Li does the same thing.

    I was inspired to figure out randomness and strange patterns on my own. The first thing that caught my eye was the Elegant Pattern. It made me a searcher for other patterns and characteristics that continue. I exhausted myself in systems like Turbo does still to this day. I wrote thousands of test simulations on the computer. You can't beat the odds with a rule based system. It will always encounter a sequence of death that takes back all your progress. To beat a casino you must use selection and timing. This must be done by wisdom. This wisdom comes from experience and first of all making lots of mistakes. You must conquer your own human weakness as well. That does not mean that you must become some kind of gambling Monk. A different way to say it that you must avoid the pitfalls of gambling.
     
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    Anyone that bought, or even got free, a John Patrick book got ripped off!
     
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  17. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    See to me, Elegant Pattern means something else, I didn't capture not play the shoe, but did notice it, so from memory it ran like this.

    PP << start of shoe
    B
    P
    BBBBB
    P
    B
    P
    B
    P < pivot point, shoe now start mirroring itself
    B
    P
    B
    P
    BBBBB < Mirror begins after 5th Banker, I would step in here and bet the B to go to 6, to break the already 19 hand mirror)
    P (lose, now bet double P, 21 hand mirror)
    B (fuck bet double bank, lose again, already 23 hands!! 3LIAR fume)
    P (bet P won't double, if it does, then bet for 3rd P, running out of options as it was the start of the shoe)
    B (finally, I grabbed a winner, lose 3 win 1, however this EP finally concluded after 27 hands, which is extremely rare)

    Different strokes for different folks, a shoe reverse mirroring itself, has to be extreme for me to make a move, you know it ain't going to continue forever, that is certain, but you need it to break within a small window.
     
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  18. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You must lead a miserable life... Sincerely.
     
  19. gizmotron

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    It happens. The shoe mirroring itself is a good and deep read. Most people would not recognize this.

    I had seen a perfect pattern hit twice before I took a chance on it. I had a pet set of numbers based on four spokes of the Roulette wheel at four corners of the compass dial. It was back in my superstitious and magical period. I thought that sections on the wheel would stabilize randomness. Anyway...

    I had these 12 pet numbers that started to hit in a perfect repeating pattern. It would go hit, hit, not hit and then repeat. This kept up for over 30 spins perfectly. So I let bets ride the pattern. After a while I was pulling off huge wins to keep them as my bet level parlayed up very high. A huge crowd gathered to watch. All this cheering crap and all. That is what started me searching for anything that continues.
     
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    Why does roulettes make cats go insane? Why do roulettes playin cats like to go round and round with circular illogic and hints droppings, hey hey?
     
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