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Baccarat Sputnik's Notes on Baccarat

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sputnik, Mar 10, 2020.

  1. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    If you go to my thread, you see results of cash made on Baccarat. I have even posted live videos of my win/loss statements for 2019 and 2020 to verify.

    In any case, AFTER THE FACT on the above shoes I made a grip of money. Who wouldn't have won on those two shoes? Any Baccarat player worth his weight in black chips would have. If you can't see that, and would not have won, A LOT, on those two shoes, you shouldn't be playing Baccarat is all it means. May not be your game.
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2020
  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    YOUR case was not even the subject . The entire topic means nothing right from the beginning ..


    Waste of time .
     
  3. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Estimation & likelihood

    Next, I will illustrate two ways to tackle the distribution of baccarat shoes using two attempts to catch and ride or scalping strikes.
    I say like other famous authors that no more than three attempts to catch a trend or sequence and I consider that being too much.

    Cheers
     
  4. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I can not curve fitting this results as they have been posted by Jimske and here is a short sample of betting at most two attempts.
    No triggers or reason to place a bet, just showing the flow and distribution of the sequences based upon Sputnik's March Concept.
    I use one mechanical rule or reason to place the bets below.

    MoSun 2.13.20 1069


    BppppBpBpBBBBBBBpppBpppBpppp - L W W W W L
    BBpppBBBpppBBBppBBB - W W W W W W W L
    pBpBpBpBBp - W W W W W W L
    BBBpBpBBBBB - L W

    MoSun 2.13.20 1070

    BpBppppBBBppppBBB - W W L W W W L
    ppBBBppBBBBBBppp - W W W W L
    BpBpBBpB - W W W L L
    pppBBpppp - W W L
    BpBpBppppppp - W W W W

    Any method that try to flat betting or reduce variance should not allow more then two placed bets, win or break even or start over.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2020
  5. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The question is to Scalping strikes or rides them out - here is the first Shoe posted by Jimske where we would break even trying to ride strikes and win overall Scalping the strikes.

    MoSun 2.13.20 1068

    BpBBBBBp - W L L
    BBppBppB - W L W L
    pppBBBpp - W W L
    BpppBBBBppppppBpppp - L W W W L
    BpBpBBpB - W W W L
    ppppBBBpBBB - W L W L
    ppBpBpp L W

    Scalping strikes LW-Registry: W W W L W W W L W
    Riding strikes LW-Registry: W L L W L W L W W L L W W W L W W W L W L W L L W

    This is using the sequences as they unfold, other options are to catch one particular sequence or catch two dominating sequences, wish is a whole other principal and approach of Spuntik's March Concept.

    Cheers
     
  6. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    After some thoughts and comments, I will continue to explain.
    The reason I don't write down everything is that the majority of members can not explain step by step why, where and when to place bets.
    This means that all that claim from those members is empty words with no meaning and with no value.
    That is the main reason most of the time ignore such members because they can not prove their claims.

    The next post will be about a classical march where you catch any dominating events/figures with three attempts, classical even money march.
    Then I will show the comparison with Sputnik's March Solutions, reducing a three placed bets attempt, versus a two placed bets attempt.
    It also shows how you can avoid three losses and reduce them to one loss with clever decision making when it comes to catching a sequence based upon Sputnik's March Concept.

    After that, you will get the same results above testing Jimske's posted baccarat shoes and i have explained why, where and when to place bets to ride on strikes or scalping strikes based upon this concept.
    And I stay solid with my comments and statements because no other has shown or produce any better solution or concept in a public forum.

    Cheers
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2020
  7. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No comments - well I know there are readers so I will keep up the good work ...
    Before I continue I want to explain the concept with an implicit bankroll that covers many areas when it comes to gambling.

    Now some online casinos require that you wagering a certain amount before you can make one withdraw of your money.
    This is no good and I made this mistake in the past using a sports betting service where I deposit 300$ each, on several sports bookies.
    Now I was winning with my sports betting service, but decide to quit after some months placing bets.

    And discover that some sports bookies require me to wagering 300$ X 3 times before allowing me to withdraw my money.
    This is the reason why you will never see me having 10K on a gambling account.

    The minimum that your session or strategy requires should be the maximum deposit.
    This means you might have 10/20K on Paypal/Skrill or any other e-wallet, but you never expose the whole amount into an online casino.

    Implicit bankroll managment

    Cheers
     

  8. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Waiting for ur solution for reducing 3 losses to 1 with clever decision, & what do u mean by scalping strikes
     
  9. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well, I have been thinking about how to introduce and explain the concept - is a process.
    And is a typo error and should be three loses versus two loses.
    Basic March is to catch one repeat and if we fail we will have three events showing once each and that is three loses - L L L

    BB PPP B - L L L
    BB P BBB - L L L

    BBB PP B - L L L
    BBB P BB - L L L

    B PPP BB - L L L
    B PP BBB - L L L

    The following combination if you get one repeat within three events.

    W = +1
    LW = +0
    LLW = -1
    LLL = -3

    What we want in any given situation is a win or break even or start over and accept two loses.

    W = +1
    LW = +0
    LL = -2

    And we can choose to end each attack with two or one loss.

    L
    LL

    This is the Basic March to catch a bias sequence with at least one repeat.

    If you see a single outcome you follow it to repeat, if not you will have two events and bet that one of them will repeat.
    If not, then you have three loses and each event/figure show once each.

    This is expensive and we need to apply IN-PLAY STATS
    T
    hat shows the likelihood and tendency for something to happen based upon statistical observations (experience) your estimation of the situation

    There is several ways and several solutions for decision making based upon IN-PLAY STATS

    You see one series of two ending the past sequence with singles and series of three and higher.
    Now you can cover the situation that the series of two or series of three and higher will come next WITH ONE SINGLE BET
    We cover two out of three events with one single bet.

    But if you took the other decision for a single to be part of the future sequence you will be forced to place three bets to cover and catch a bias sequence.
    Now we choose the other way that will result in a win or a break-even or two loses.

    IN-PLAY STATS & ESTIMATION AND LIKELIHOOD BEHIND THE DECISION ((PROBABILITY))


    We have a greater chance to get a series of two or a series of three or higher to show and cover one single bet to reduce our future loses and chance to win or break even - then risk three placed bets - the three bets solution is more straight forward and mechanical to cover the situation to catch a bais sequence, but more expensive - the other way estimate on what is currently happening and let's assume we lose our first bet and get a single - now we are in the present of the future and we know that the majority of sequences are bias - but we don't know the length - can be 123456789 in a row or more events - now the likelihood and the estimation is that the series of two will have at least a second show within the bias sequence and requires one more bet and that is the only bet we will make from this current situation (total two bets) either we win or take two loses.

    That means we put the money on that there will be a bias sequence where both series of two and singles will strike.
    In this particular situation.
    And we can also decide that making more than one single loss and continue to ride one single event and not both.
    So in profit, you might make conservative decisions and reduce two loses to one loss or press and push for more.

    Assume we win and have a break-even situation then we can continue riding the strike and bet both singles and series of two (not only series of two) that will cost us two bets - either we ride the strike and profit or we take two loses

    Now if we would have a triplet in this situation (no bias) we would have two loses and not three loses wish add up you more placed bets we make.
    This decision-making process can be made on any combination of current bias sequences.

    Additional information

    This is one way to look and tackle things among others wish I will describe.
    Now you can be in the positive and make profits from the beginning and catch bias sequences - then you have two options - continue to win more or quit - never continue to reaching zero or minus - quit when ahead ...
    Some times you will end up at break-even and other times you can play for eight hours reaching +20 units flat betting.
    The second situation is when you get a bad start - then aim to break even and start over and look for new opportunities.

    Will explain further ways to catch and ride strikes (bias sequences) and how to estimate and make decisions that I considering be optimal in any given situation using Sputnik's March Concept.

    Cheers
     
  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Maybe cos' thousands of people are dying every-day, maybe you're bunkered down!!

    I understand folk will handle things differently from others. Besides The Netherlands what is the other EU country that is going down the "Herd Immunity" path? A scary dangerous approach....
     
  11. Mako

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    Am enjoying it Sputnik, haven’t drilled down enough to begin testing it, but will once you feel the instruction is finished. God knows there’s nothing else to do...:D
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

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    Your Minimum bet times 40 shall be the bankroll for one session .


    Very simple calculation .



    ND



    Play at your own risk.
     
  13. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Framework & Blueprint

    Now I show options and is up to each individual to apply the right estimation, this is the way a non-mechanical concept has to be explained.

    Now with my last example.
    We had a sequence with singles and a series of three and higher and ended with a series of two.
    I explain the likelihood/estimation of two events hitting out of three and cover the situation with one single bet.
    Either a series of two or a series of three and higher.
    And with the example, we got a single outcome/event.

    Now I stated that we could wait and only aim for a series of two show again (if we have a bias sequence)
    But there are more options based upon equilibrium.

    BB P BB
    BB P BBB
    BB P B

    With one more bet (total two) we cover two out of three (this is a HEDGE or REVERSE THINKING)
    Assume I want to make sure that I have a bias sequence with at least one repeat before continue betting.
    Then a bias and no bias sequence (triplet) will give me a win and if two losing bets and still have a bias sequence with my IN-PLAY STATS I can place a third bet (The Classical March) based upon the situation where we have a bias sequence in front of us, we would aim for the second series of two because we estimate the sequence to continue.

    And it does not matter is someone argues that there are as many series as there are singles (50/50)
    Because my example shows two 50% of situations out of three 50% of situations are favoring us with one single bet.
    Not the best explanation, but you get the point.

    This means that all situations and estimations are not better with reducing attempts to catch the likelihood for something to happen.

    This explains the bias

    What I know is that two events out of three will dominate more then you get one of each show once.
    This apply to events by themself and the sequences by themself.
    This means that the majority of shoes will have two sequences dominating the majority of times then that each sequence show once each.
    This means there will be a majority of repeats among events and sequences.
    That is the core and summary of this topic.

    @Mako

    You understand the concept and understood my intention.
    The whole concept is a process of estimations and likelihood solutions to tackle the Summary of the existing bias based upon the explanation above - The Sputnik's March Concept In A Nutshell.

    Step by step and part by part we can cover the concept to develop our skill to take the right action using the current IN-PLAY STATS based upon experience and statistical observations.
    No fuzzy guesswork or hints or woodo ...¨

    Cheers
     
  14. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    SELECTIVE EDGE-SORTING

    Now maybe you hear the expression - edge-sorting - when it comes to BJ and here is a similar approach for Baccarat.
    Edge-sorting is about locating the ACE in the deck with BJ.
    How about locating the long series (strikes) in the baccarat shoe.

    MoSun 2.13.20 1068

    BpBBBBBp - L
    BBppBppB -
    pppBBBpp - W L L
    BpppBBBBppppppBpppp W W L W W W W L W W L L
    BpBpBBpB
    ppppBBBpBBB - W L W L L
    ppBpBpp

    MoSun 2.13.20 1069


    BppppBpBpBBBBBBBpppBpppBpppp - W W L W W W W W L W L W L W W L L
    BBpppBBBpppBBBppBBB
    pBpBpBpBBp
    BBBpBpBBBBB - W W W L

    MoSun 2.13.20 1070

    BpBppppBBBppppBBB - W L W W L W L L
    ppBBBppBBBBBBppp
    BpBpBBpB
    pppBBpppp
    BpBpBppppppp - L

    Note:

    This is when you explore one sequence and that one out of two events will strike and with the example above using the sequence with singles and series of three and higher.
    One single bet to catch a series of three or higher and each winning sequence or several winning bets/strikes result with two losses.

    But this also works with singles and series of two and series of two and series of three and higher.
    Same principle and concept.

    The thing is that we cut and divide the shoe into sections that belong to each current sequence.
    That we can explore and take advantage of as isolated trends - but a trend in my world I define as one out of three sequences.

    This is what the Sputnik's March Concept is all about - estimation and likelihood to capture bias - should also mention that we could bet against the bias - but not recommended - my opinion.

    Cheers
     
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  15. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Scalping & Ride Strikes Explanation

    With the selective edge-sorting example I will show the results Scalping the strikes and not riding the strikes.
    Here we just catch one series of three and don't continue to ride larger series, one win and stop also creates long runs of winning series.
    And each winning sequence results in one loss comparing to two loses riding the strikes.
    A risk and reward question to tackle and what someone prefer, conservative or push and press for more.

    MoSun 2.13.20 1068

    BpBBBBBp - L
    BBppBppB -
    pppBBBpp - W L
    BpppBBBBppppppBpppp W W W L
    BpBpBBpB
    ppppBBBpBBB - W W L
    ppBpBpp

    MoSun 2.13.20 1069


    BppppBpBpBBBBBBBpppBpppBpppp - W W W W L
    BBpppBBBpppBBBppBBB
    pBpBpBpBBp
    BBBpBpBBBBB - W L

    MoSun 2.13.20 1070

    BpBppppBBBppppBBB - W W W L
    ppBBBppBBBBBBppp
    BpBpBBpB
    pppBBpppp
    BpBpBppppppp - L

    Cheers
     
  16. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Last comment before sleep...

    This holds true when you decide to enter a shoe and start placing bets - to be selective - because of the majority will have repeats - and I am not only referring to events - when you see a shoe and have two different sequences then the estimation and likelihood are that one of them will repeat the majority of times.

    Cheers
     
  17. MDawg

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    Although it amounts to the same thing, if you could post visuals of simulated shoes rather than just the bare bones BpBppppBBBppppBBB would be easier to visualize.
     
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  18. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    MoSun 2.14.20 1079

    BpBppBB

    Here we have a past sequence with singles and a series of two.
    Now we know that in the future this sequence will end with a series of three or higher.
    We also know that the past sequence has bias and that we expect the next future sequence to be biased.

    Indications and IN-PLAY STATS indicate that the shoe produce repeaters based upon the past sequence.
    And the indication and likelihood is favouring us getting one more series of three or higher,
    because we expect and put our money on the fact that there will be more repeats and bias sequences then the opposite.
    This conclusion we base on statistical observations and experience, the reason behind our estimation and why we place a bet.

    A selective situation where the opportunity raise and we try to take advantage of the situation.

    pppBBBpBpBBBpB - W L W L L (ride) W W L (Scalp)

    Next, there is no opportunity for EDGE-SORTING
    ppBBBppppBBBpp

    BpBB

    Here we have a small bias sequence with singles and a series of two.
    We know the sequence will end with a series of three or higher and our expectation is another bias sequence.

    pppBpp - L (Ride) L (Scalp)

    NO BIAS and we got a triplet.
    In this situation, we can get either single or series of three or higher and maybe a new series of two to end and start the new sequence.
    If we get a series of three we can continue EDGE-SORTING

    BBBpBBBBp - W W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)

    Now we have to wait for another selective opportunity.

    BBpppppBBBB
    p

    MoSun 2.14.20 1080

    BpppBB
    pppBpBBBp - W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    BBpBBBBBBB
    pppBpB - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    ppBBpBBppBBpBppBpBpBBpBBpBpp
    BBBpBB - L (Ride) L (Scalp)


    MoSun 2.14.20 1081

    pBBppBBpB
    ppppBpppppppppppB - W W W W W W W W W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    ppBBBppBBBpppp
    BppB
    pppBpBBBBpBBBBBpB - W W L W W W L L (Ride) W W L (Scalp)

    MoSun 2.14.20 1082

    pBppBp
    BBBpppBpppppppB - W L W W W W W L L (Ride) W W L (Scalp)
    ppBBBp
    BBppppB
    pppBBppp - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    BpppBB - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    pppBBpp - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    BppBpp
    BBBBBpppp - W W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)

    MoSun 2.14.20 1083

    ppppBBp - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    BBBBpBBBBpBppp - W W L W L L (Ride) W W L ( Scalp)
    BBpppB
    ppppBpBpBp - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    BBpB
    pppBBBppppppBBBpBBBp - W L W W W W L W L W L L (Ride) W W W W L (Scalp)
    BBpBBp
    BBBBB

    MoSun 2.14.20 1084

    BBppBBBBBpp
    BpBBpBBpBBpBB
    pppppBpppBpB - W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    ppBppBppBpBpBpBBpBBppBBpBB
    ppppB

    MoSun 2.14.20 1085

    pBppBpp
    BBBBpBBBpppBBBBp - W L W L W W L L (Ride) W W W L (Scalp)
    BBppBppBBp
    BBBBBBBpBBBppppppppBBBBB - W L W W W W W W L W W W L L (Ride) W W W L (Scalp)
    ppBp
    BBBpBBBpBpB - W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)

    MoSun 2.14.20 1086

    BBBBpBBBBpBppp - W W L W L L (Ride) W W L (Scalp)
    BBppBBB
    pBBBBpp - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    BBppB
    pppBBBBBpBpBpppBpppBpppBpBpppp - W W W L W L W L W L W W L L (Ride) W W W W W L (Scalp)
    BBpBppBB

    MoSun 2.14.20 1087

    BpBBBBpB - L (Ride) L (Scalp)
    ppBpBpBppBpBBppB
    pppppBBBpB - W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    ppBBppB
    pppBpppBpBpBpBBBpBpppppBppp - W L W L W W W L W L L (Ride) W W W W L (Scalp)

    MoSun 2.14.20 1088

    BBBBBpBBBBpBp - W W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    BBppBBpBBpBBppBppBp
    BBBpBBBp - W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    BBpBBBBB
    pBpBpBBBBpBBBBp - W W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)
    BBpBpBpp
    BBB

    MoSun 2.17.20 1089

    BpppBB
    pppppppBpppBpppBpppBpppppBpppBpBBBpBp - W L W L W L W W W L W L W L L (Ride) W W W W W W L (Scalp)
    BBpBBB
    pBpBBpBBppBB
    pppBBB - W L L (Ride) W L (Scalp)

    Ride Strikes

    W L W L L
    L
    W W L L
    W L L
    L
    L
    W W W W W W W W W L L
    W W L W W W L L
    W L W W W W W L L
    L
    L
    L
    W W L L
    L
    W W L W L L
    L
    W L W W W W L W L W L L
    W L L
    W L W L W W L L
    W L W W W W W W L W W W L L
    W L L
    W W L W L L
    L
    W W W L W L W L W L W W L L
    L
    W L L
    W L W L W W W L W L L
    W W L L
    W L L
    W W L L
    W L W L W L W W W L W L W L L

    Summary:

    84 W
    75 L

    Largest strike - 9 in a row

    Scalping Strikes

    W W L
    L
    W L
    W L
    L
    L
    W L
    W W L
    W W L
    W W L
    L
    L
    L
    W L
    L
    W W L
    W W W W L
    W L
    W W W L
    W W W L
    W L
    W W L
    W W W W W L
    W L
    W W W W L
    W L
    W L
    W L
    W W W W W W L
    W L

    Summary:

    48 W
    30 L

    Largest strike - 6 in a row

    Cheers
     
  19. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well, one part of the Sputnik's March is to divide and cut the distribution into sections, so I will keep posting horizontal.
    But I have an old account at Leo Vegas with 7 Euro and decide to illustrate a short session, won five in a row, that was easy :)

    Maybe I will deposit 10 Euro or more just for fun to illustrate Sputnik's March variants in real action, maybe get easier to understand.
    Now had gold before and invest in more gold with my bankroll money in this corona times.
    My country currency will get weaker and weaker and have to HEDGE the situation.
    And there is no sports trading for several months.

    Here is a short session and video to illustrate the (Ride Strike) Edge-Sorting Solution - based upon Sputnik's March Concept.

     
  20. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Coming Up Next

    I mention how one event out of two dominating events can be part of several hitting sequences.
    For example singles and series of two versus singles and series of three and higher.
    They can alternate for several shoes after each other.

    This means that the majority will be singles and where you will reach heaven capitalize on them.
    We talking about sequence length from Triplet (no bias) and 3456789 10 15 20 25 outcome strikes for each separated sequence.

    On famous baccarat player won around 60 shoes that way in a row and I think it only happens once.
    If I understood the situation correctly.

    And same can be with series of two and series of three and higher with series of two and singles or series of three and higher with singles.
    They can also dominate for several shoes alternating and you will reach heaven capitalize on series.
    Can last for several shoes in a row hitting after each other.

    Deeper explanation about being selective using Edge-Sorting

    There is a reason why I use a series of three and higher with my example.
    Because the estimation and likelihood are more repeats then alternating Triplets with no bias.
    And the chance to get larger series then three in a row to strike.

    This is not the case using Edge-Sorting with singles and a series of two.
    Then you will hit and strike every single series of two hittings with no tendency to continue to strike until you have a new opportunity to catch a single series of two appearings.
    There is no tendency flow or strike ability in the same manner as my example above with a series of three and higher.

    But hers is a hint about the "Coming Up Next" series of two and series of three and higher can strike with the same ability as singles and series of three and higher, so here we have two sequences out of three that can create larger strikes and make justice for the name Edge-Sorting upon Sputnik's March Concept.
    That alone is a way to catch (sometimes) several shoes after each other with those two sequences dominating.

    Cheers
     

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