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Baccarat The BIG Question

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Frank Kneeland, Jan 27, 2022.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I have heard those stories too. I am not sure what the answer is. What we have right now in the US is way out of control in terms of cost. I was always surprised at how many people were walking around with zero health insurance. What happens if they have a car wreck and have an unexpected $30,000 surgery. I guess they are gamblers. They would be right at home on these forums.
     
  2. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Direct Inguinal Hernia. The trip went well sort of and my bosses law firm helped me file in my state. I'm awaiting the paper-work back in Vegas. The trip nearly killed me but it checked all the boxes I needed checked for now. TSA took issue with my hernia belt so getting through security was a nightmare. I also fell on the plane and whaked my hip where I now have a huge knot. My sciatic acted up from sitting so long, and my medial tunnel syndrome paralyzed two fingers on each hand from resting my elbows on the arm supports. And when we got to the hotel I may have had a slight TIA as I became light headed and disoriented. Oh and there were bowel issues which prevented me from eating for four days.

    To say it was the worst most painful trip of my life would be an understatement.

    I did get to deliver and install the software I wrote for his firm and they LOVED it.
     
  3. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Capitalism works very well for some things, especially luxuries, but not when there is inelastic demand. In my opinion capitalism has no place in areas of essential service people need to live. This how single pill medications such as the one for Hep B rose to $80,000 a dose levels. The manufacture simply crunched the numbers a calculated that while they'd kill 3 out of 4 people that couldn't afford it, they'd make more on the one out of four that could.

    This sort of math has no place in health care...and yet in America it is entrenched.
     
  4. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Shhhshhhh Jizmo will be along soon calling ya a Commie Libtard.

    Scratching my head here why the supposedly richest nation on earth don't look after ALL of it's citizens, I mean the NHS may have long waiting lists due to Covid, but you don't die if you can't pay, same in Aotearoa, Australia or Singapore and a lot of other countries. Would Obamacare solved this issue? Sure was a lot of load mouths even on this board slating it, maybe that was more to do with it's naming rather than it's principal.

    I'm sure Frank ain't the only gambler on this site that didn't take out medical insurance or put money aside for a rainy day (old age), thank fuck I have a decent IT back-ground to fall back on and I'm earning more now than and doing less now, than I ever did whilst in the Corporate World.
     
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  5. fathead

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    Holy cow. Hang in there Frank, hopefully things will look up soon.
     
  6. fathead

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    The drug manufacturers charge whatever they can get away with. Here is a good example. Jublia, a simple prescription anti-fungal solution, nothing special, really. With no insurance it is over $700 for a 10ml bottle. I saw things like this all the time when I was working.
     
  7. fathead

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    Obamacare was a step in the right direction. Insurance was required (congress has since rolled back the mandate) and is subsidized and very reasonable for the lowest income folks. If you were mid or higher income, the cost is too high ($700 to $900 per month). Hopefully you have health insurance through your employer instead which is generally a much better deal since the employer pays part of the premium. I have never really understood why health insurance is linked to your job instead of your citizenship.
     
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  8. SPIKE

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    Time to get out of the piano moving business, Frank.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Moving violins is less strenuous ,
     
  10. Jimske

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    Capitalism has brought a LOT of people in the world out of poverty. Unchecked it also will (and has) kept a lot of people in poverty! World Gone Wrong when wealth disparity making basic needed resources like healthcare, food, housing and education difficult for a countries citizen to acquire.

    The breakdown of basic moral fiber pushing many from the left and right to turn to more authoritative regimes. Scary times!

    J
     
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  11. Frank Kneeland

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    Jizmo, whoever that is, may say what he likes, I am beyond caring and in too much pain to fight about it.

    Let's just say I'm wrong, and then I won't have to waste what little energy I have left defending my position...
     
  12. Frank Kneeland

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    I know all of you don't really know me and obviously take everything I say with a shaker of salt. I am not exaggerating, it's all become just a bit too much pain.

    I'm sorry, I have no idea why I'm saying this here. It's fucking pathetic. Fell free to pile on. I'm in too much pain to notice.
     
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  13. Junket King

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    Nope, I'm a contractor, we do have back logs in the UK, that is more down to Covid and the Tory bastards in power who are slowly trying to introduce the American model of health care, otherwise the NHS does a decent job.
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

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    The responsibility obtaining health insurance lie with the individual citizen not with a government .

    JK understood ?
     
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    What's wrong with American health care is the same thing wrong with our government.

    Years ago when I was first married I did not have health insurance. I knew exactly what the cost was of seeing a DR. Twenty bucks got me in and out of the privately owned clinic. Another twenty bucks covered the prescription. Forty dollars... Yep that's it.

    We had our first child. Hospital bill out the door was five hundred dollars. Around two years later child number two was five thousand dollars. The economy was not going up as fast as Dr. and hospital bills.

    They make all kinds of excuses for it but, it comes down to corporate greed and lack of regulation. Why do you think the first question now is if you have insurance. They are bilking the insurance companies. That's why some insurance dictate what they will pay and will only deal with providers willing to go by their guidelines.

    A while back I had a surgery. What the insurance paid for it I could have paid easily and would have save quite a bit if I didn't pay for insurance. But without insurance I would have paid triple what the insurance paid and it would have been more than paying for insurance. Yep it definitely is a racket. They look at as insurance money not your money.

    My son got injured on the job requiring stitches. Went to the emergency room. This was workers comp. The hospital billed workers comp and got paid. They then billed our old health insurance who of course didn't pay. They then billed my current insurance who paid. The explanation of benefits started to pour in workers paid, old not paid, new paid. On the back of my ins. statement was a number for fraud. I called to report the hospital.

    Honest to God the insurance told me that its just a mistake and it happens all the time. I said well it was already paid. They didn't seem to care. A few years down the road the hospital had to pay a nice fine for over billing. l'm sure it wasn't as much as they collected. And I'm currently dealing with hospital that continues to bill for paid services. Yeah better keep receipts when dealing with these crooks......
     
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  16. Frank Kneeland

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    You are not wrong. I honestly wish you were wrong as I am now dealing all this insanity for the first time in my life.

    It's utterly insane. I long for the days when beating the casino was the hardest thing I did...
     
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    I would like to say I am lucky but luck has nothing to do with it. I have not had a real job working for somebody else where I had insurance since the 1970s. I've always been self-employed and never had my own insurance. It's part of the reason why I married a really smart woman who I knew would always have a good job that would include me on the insurance. Now that we're retired her pension plan pays for Blue Cross and Medicare. Lots of people think Medicare is free, part of it is free but the part that you use the most, that covers prescriptions and seeing your doctors, you pay for that by the month like a regular insurance policy. And it goes up every year.
     
  18. Mickey Crimm

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    Only two pieces of advice for roulette:

    Own the wheel and bank the game or don't play.

    Only complete idiots think they can beat roulette.
     
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  19. Mickey Crimm

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    "Luck is for suckers."
    Minnesota Fats
     
  20. Mickey Crimm

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    You're a pie in the sky stick a pin in it voodoo gambler. You don't know jackshit about gambling. Don't even talk a good game.
     
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