Baccarat The Very Near Perfect System

"assuming the MM is solid which I still need to work on that piece."

Fibonacci with the regress option for the higher (your comfort zone) bets.

 

Thanks JK. I will try that out. Regress as in if you have a bet coming of 10+ units, regress to 3-4 units and leave the other 6+ units in the string and “chip away”?

 

If you have a 13u or say 21u pending, break them down.

Instead of betting 13u (this is a recoup of a 5u and 8u prior loss), bet 8u if you win bet 5u, otherwise???

Instead of 21u (recoup of prior 8u and 13u lost bets), bet 8u, if win, bet 5u, you have now recouped the prior lost 13u, you now have to win prior lost 8u, play around as it suits.

I ran my Fibo 1-2-3-5-8 etc, not 1-1-2-3 as this treads water to much (I want profit on those streaks of 5, not break even). I don't mind being up and down like a yoyo on the Fibo scale at the lower end, betting 2,3,5,8,5 units, certainly don't wanna be up and down at the top end, betting 21,34,55,89,55 etc.

However, the best approach IMO is to write down your session target, 10u, 20u whatever. Use the Fibo, update whatever you decided is your daily session target, win 1u, update figure to 19, lose update to 21. The aim is to get the figure to zero, once achieved your done.

You can see were you are at and were you need to get to. Let's say you're having a hard time, on the score card your current figure is 38 (streaky shoe), your start figure was 20, so this means you are -18u in the hole, your next called for bet is 13u, should you lose this, your figure would be 38 + 13 = 51 (ouch).

If you think ahead and realise 51 would become the new goal target, you might decide not to go there, instead go into recoup mode instead of blindly following the Fibonacci off a cliff edge. Maybe now you aim to get that 38 figure to say 30, then to 20 (your even, less tax), once you've done that, go for profit. It keeps you more in control, makes you evaluate, I played this way for years.

Got yourself in a spot of bother? Let's say I need to recoup 100 units or more. Tis to stressful to write 100 and work that back to zero, instead write out 20 (or 22 to cater for B commission), work that back to zero, rinse and repeat 5 times. This is how I use to battle if required, due to age and energy I try to kinda avoid this situation nowadays, I no longer utilise the Fibo, I can manipulate multiple Labby strings easier.

 

soxfan what about your power marty 1 3 7 15 31 ? Shelved it ?


Just refreshing your memory .

 

Yeah, the Frank Barstow recommend the 4 step grand marty, so would never make that 31 units bets, hey hey.

 

@JK that makes sense. Thank you!

 

LOL, Don't I know it know it now. Thanks for the input brother. I haven't chased them this far since this incident. Pardon my newness here What is +VE

 

soxfan that 4 step marty makes sense . Thanks for revising the issue .

 

Thank you for the reply. What is your personal favorite strategy for AS betting ?

 

My anti trend bet 1 2 2 .With a win of any of those 3 I switch to 3 2 1 down the steps positive.


Nothing could bite you at the end.

 

"What is +VE"

Positive, I was positive to the tune of over $25k playing AS4 (Anti streak after 4) multiple tables after 3 months of action when I first started playing. Should have continued instead of sitting at a table and playing entire shoes.

 

Man you got it. Play sessions instead of shoes . What is holding you back ?

 

I always play sessions and not shoes. The AS4 play I did, I can't, couldn't pull it off now. I played a fairly busy casino down-under, had close to 10 tables to monitor (impossible in UK), I had a mate who helped me monitor the tables and sometimes bet for me, two bet opportunities present themselves, he'd be at one table and I'd be at the other waiting on him to give me a signal if the bet won or lost, so i could determine how much to bet.

Let's just say, I had to be very agile learning over those sitting to get my bet down and maybe dash to another table, multiple bets out at the same time on adjacent tables, all the while updating a score card which had a target goal. Doable in the right joint, but you had to be cheeky (arrogant even LOL) about it, alas it ain't happening in 2022.

He is another slant on betting AS (anti-streak), which I reckon would give the punter a positive edge.

Alas only applicable in the UK ONLY. Here in most Genting's casinos they run a Banker streak bonus, it a white button is in front on the bettor when 8 Banks occur you get a bonus of £50, the bettor has to place a bet (any side), the white button moves clockwise around the table after each Punto outcome. If the Banco streak hit's 12 the punter will be paid a minimum of £2k, could be up as much as £15k, all depends how long between Banker 12 streaks.

Just to digress, shoe characteristics (streak frequency) is determined by the shuffle procedure, hence why in the UK, it can go months and months with neither of 4 tables producing a Banker (no ties) 12 streak, whereas some people will post "I see long streaks every day" in some US casinos. Also when I had a run of 40+ winning sessions, in the main it was down to their shuffle procedures, which in turn altered the characteristics of the shoes. 40+ winning sessions using a strategy which I couldn't replicate anywhere else, nor could I in original joint after they introduced the Angel shuffle-master machines, which altered the characteristics of the shoes. Not that they did this deliberate, I'm sure they didn't have a clue, rather it was simply a fortunate by product after they changed their gaming procedures.


Anyways the punter has to find an empty table so that the button remains with them, playing at a high chip level after 4 Punto's bet Banco a max of 3 times stopping after a win. After 5 Banco's bet Punto's a maximum of 3 times stopping after a win. As you can see, if you are betting against a Banker streak and it reaches 8, then you are guaranteed £50, £100 when it goes to 9 and so on.

It would massively assist if the said casino gave out free hands, if not then you would need to devise a flat bet table minimum method that more of less broke even to keep the game going.

Does it sound too difficult?? LOL

Well not really, me and a mate, he used to have a login here, his user ID was "Natural 9", (until his posts where combined with mine), did exploit something similar at a local "not so busy" casino.

It got boring as well as confusing as hell, he would bet one-side, me the other, and we split the 6 Bankers in a row bonus they were running at the time. We would rip through shoes at a rate of a shoe in 20 minutes, bang, bang, it didn't take long before the casino cottoned on that we were colluding which is a big no-no. After a maybe 6 hours bored out of our skulls, we made about £300 each, it was a no risk, money for nothing enterprise we quit due to the really bad vibes from management Lool. Within a few days we both get letters saying we were both banned for 6 months, plus I lost my VIP status, for cheating haha...

In my absence from the said casino, they fucking removed the game, period, no more Punto - Banco, this was a real blow, as many times I would be the only player in the joint, so totally controlled the pace of the game, it was a lot of fun coming up with flat bet "break even" strategies to keep the game going. Happy days..

 

Those promotions never last too long . Partmer play might have its advantages too.


Teams are much easier to spot and are a red flag for the casino.

 

Some punters consider AS 1 or AS 2 with any subsequent win to continue with a positive progression.

 

This topic could be a gold mine for the serious baccarat player . A bonanza for the A S punters .

 

P.S. I favor AS 3 .

 

Winnings on games of E C are not based on skill but on Luck.

 

You're full of shit. Betting and money managemt is a skill.

 

Absolutely is a skill! Agree.