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Baccarat To bet for or against the trend?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Rond1nell1, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    AZnti-streaks is a solid style of play if ya bet against p streaks only. think about, the vast majority of streaks event at baccarat, 95%+ are 4 or less in duration. SO I think it rather foolish to hope against hopes to make cake on long streak, hey hey.
     
  2. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    Excellent observation. My goal is 2-3 units per day.
    But I lack an efficient strategy for bad periods.
    Surfing the good periods any amateur does, the professional stands out in adversity.
    I have fun playing chess, at the casino I want to earn my money and go.
     
  3. SPIKE

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    The only strategy for bad periods is to know when they're happening and not play them. But you're playing Baccarat so you might be forced to play if you were sitting at the table. I never sit at the table at roulette.
     
  4. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    This is the main dilemma.
    When to start following a sequence?
    What pattern can we use?

    To go to Quebra I feel confident from 8+.
    But if you use for example 3 Martingale , you will lose 7 units when the streak goes beyond your 3 bets.

    I like to follow some pre-set pattern. And I'm trying to find one to go in favor of the sequel.
     
  5. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    I've never been to a casino. My dream.
    In Brazil, games of chance are still prohibited.
    I have been a Dealer for 9 years in a poker club.

    Online game only at the moment.

    I agree that identifying 1 bad period and not playing is ideal.
    But we can get the reading wrong and we can also get a variance. ...
     
  6. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    You're betting what you feel comfortable with, it's following any ridged progression which will get you into trouble. I really couldn't explain my string method more than what I already have, there are many examples littering this site.

    That is absolute nonsense, no wonder he is a $1 stake player after all these years with his 72% hit rate. Utterly demented
     
  7. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    I think a short explanation would help. I'm also interested.
    And let me tell you, it's not laziness, I've read practically every topic on baccarat. And I learned a lot from this forum.
    Experienced players like you help from more who's coming.
    Grateful!
     
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  8. SPIKE

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    It's harder in baccarat because you only got one stream to look at, banker and player. In roulette you can look at as many as six different streams of even chances. That's why I don't bother with Baccarat, I have to wait too long to make a bet. And you can sit there through a whole shoe and not see a single betting opportunity worth taking
     
  9. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I don't have the time or enthusiasm to get into it. On the first page of this forum is a search option.

    Here are the search results of "string Method" by yours truly.

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/search/46442608/?q=string+method&o=date&c[user][0]=1860

    Go for it, I will say one thing. In the money game called Baccarat, you can't control, influence in any way winning or losing decisions. Losing 6, 10 or 15 decisions in a row you have no control over, doesn't matter if you stop, start, go to another table whatever.

    If you have no control when you win or lose a hand, and most players go home broke if they lose 6 or more hands in a row, then the issue is not really how decisions did you get wrong, rather it is how much did you bet per losing decision. Losing 6 hands in a row is no big deal if you were for as an example using STAR.

    Once you grasps and embrace that, you will then start to view the game differently, it is not the win vs lost hands that matters, it is the bet amount. 3 increasing negative progressive bets, the 4th needs to be a partial recovery bet, and you stay in recovery mode until you have recouped fully. "But what if you keep losing?", Firstly you shouldn't be on any time limit, have plenty of backup capital and a solid "no guessing" template bet selection, which can but hardly fails. LLLW doesn't mean the Winning bet has to cancel the 3 losing bets, this is where the String Method comes into it, after any losing jag, you perform many mini recoups, via writing extra strings, grinding back draw-downs, or simply change gears to a higher chip size.

    £5 > 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

    Could be re-written as;

    £10 > 1 1 1 1

    or

    £25 > 1 1

    Is it easier to clear 4 elements at £10 or 2 elements at £25 than 8 elements at £5? Whatever you feel comfortable with, Bankroll permitting..
     
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  10. Rond1nell1

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    I was thinking about it today. And about the flat bets. Really in roulette I will have more options in my favor. And depending on the value of the unit to make a defense at 0.
    Example if your unit is BRL 50.00 I can always put BRL 1.50 in 0.
    I really appreciate your collaboration, it helped me a lot to broaden my vision about betting.
    Success in your bets!
     
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    Thanks for the tips on how to see the baccarat game. I've read some posts about the "string Method".
    I'm new to baccarat, but I really enjoyed the game.
    Hug!
     
  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    The $1 bettor King Alfred of Roulette desperate for recognition, regurgitates nonsense from over 10 years ago for credibility, when doesn't know what he is talking about. It quite easy to run multiple streams in Baccarat.
     
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    You got me there, Johno. Please elaborate. Baccarat is not my game but I'm always open to suggestions. I'm not understanding you, I remember us usually getting along and now you seem to hate me. I have a lot of respect for you, you were the real deal. Why are you being such a jerk to me.
     
  14. Junket King

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    I'm not a fan of bullshitters, I don't mind you, but the first thing you post here is that your 72% claimed hit rate has increased to 80%, the former GG members here know it's crap, I know more than anybody else it's crap due to our emails. Cut the childish attention seeking crap and I'm sure we will get along. Maybe at your age, question why you do it, surely at this time in your life, you don't still crave that sort of attention?
     

  15. SPIKE

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    Actually it's higher than 80%, but let's not quibble over details. What you believe and don't believe is irrelevant to the reality. We exchanged a couple of emails years ago and you think you know me? Is this a joke? You think I let down my guard and told you anything that means anything? Give me a break. I don't have to prove anything to anybody, the only people that see my proof are the casinos and they don't even know what they are looking at. So you can rant and rave and foam at the mouth about what you think you know about what I do. It means less than nothing and effects reality not at all. I repeat, what the hell happened to you. You used to be this professional-sounding experienced player. Now you're just a whiny old lady who's bitter that life seems to have passed them by. And I see that you completely ignored my polite request to elaborate on how there is more than one stream in baccarat. Which means it was just more bullshit, as usual.

    Signed, your friend, Alfred. Not my real name but it will do. As I remember I used the name Alfred because I had recently seen it in a Batman movie. Michael Caine plays Alfred the butler and I thought he was pretty cool. So I used it as an email name, one among scores of others. Even as we speak at half a dozen Michigan online casinos I have a different email address for every one of them and none of them are in my name. Why would anybody have an email address in their real name. Not even my wife does that.
     
  16. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    That's alright, you completely swerved me asking why you haven't played at Monti Carlo, or any other top casinos in the world, I mean with a 80% guess rate, you should be filth rich rather than close to the breadline and trying to attract kudos on the internet, is this what your really about? Seriously, at your age??

    What's with those cheapo meals you concoct, yeah I guess they'll do when you're getting by on a tight budget, but shouldn't you be enjoying FIVE STAR luxury meals (for Free), streaks, fresh fish, fresh greens and other fine dining options from the top casinos around the world?

    Some idiot assumed you were making $700 per day, at a minimum that's $200k per year, those meals don't look like they the have been put together by somebody who enjoys a 200k pa life-style. It's utter nonsense and you must be beyond psychotic to continue the pretence.
     
  17. SPIKE

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    That's funny, I just addressed all this in another post that I just made. And you just asked what everybody always asks and I answered it in the other post. And we still get no answer to the streams in baccarat, what is the other streams besides banker and player. The only thing I could think of would be using Naturals somehow, I tried that years ago and nothing came of it.
     
  18. Junket King

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    I've used 4~6 streams of data using B and P on a single shoe. How come your ain't super rich and gambled at the Ritz Alfie?
     
  19. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    How's Muskegon? Decent comcast ISP service?
     
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  20. SPIKE

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    Unless you can say what they are I'm going to have to call BS on that.
     

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