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Baccarat True Believers vs. Con-Artists

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Frank Kneeland, Jan 12, 2022.

  1. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So what's the percentage, Frank?

    I'm sure you'll find some takers. But why don't you start a new thread?
     
  2. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    Being so obsessed with Frank's life, maybe you should get one of your own. Just a suggestion.. I'm far too concerned about my own life to be worried about yours.
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Not the future " Here is looking at you now ".
     
  4. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    I’ve gotten divergent replies. The consensus seems to be that anyone selling baccarat info is not a true believer.

    I have a hard time accepting that. My own mother believed and sold her system.

    I’m going with 80% charlatans.

    This is only a best guess. I don’t think this is a provable thing.
     
  5. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    Yes I knew what you were saying. The joke was only funny if I pretended to not understand you. This is the cornerstone of humor.

    I am sorry this has caused conflict. I have no problem with anyone on this forum. I lived as a pro gambler my whole life. I would like it if what I’ve learned was not lost, like tears in the rain.

    You said, “get a life”. I have had several and would like to share the lessons learned.
     
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  6. Frank Kneeland

    Frank Kneeland Active Member Lineage to Founders

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    The true mystery lies at the heart of the ever closing circle that en-wraps the boundary between that which we would see and that which is. To go beyond one must journey within by looking without though eyes unencumbered. ~Frank Kneeland 2010
     
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  7. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I'd be worried too, given all that out of date food you survive off

    Just curious, would one of your "lessons" be avoid gambling altogether?

    The reason I ask, you say you were a pro-gambler, yet you mention you are "renting a room" in a sense in somebody else's home. I'm sure you had a good time in your prime, not answering to the man and working your own hours. With many dubious fickle occupations, a lot of people don't put money aside or invest for the future, and now they no longer play for whatever reason are struggling and get their gambling hit from frequenting gambling boards (spike).
     
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  8. judge

    judge Active Member

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    I call bullshit....Apparently, you are "far too concerned" about everybody's life, since you post on just about every topic in this forum. And by your own admission, you do so over 150,000 times. That folks is being concerned with people's business.
     
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  9. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    LOL. Nonsense but I got to hand it to you. Your aclass A bullshiter. That's one thing you're definitely an expert in.
     
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  10. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Being a big fan of the late Joe Campbell I believe I know what you're attempting to convey here. What I don't understand is why you are saying it?

    Perhaps it's just due to the tedium of your life? May I suggest "cura te ipsum."
     
  11. SPIKE

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    I just went and did a quick check and in the last 10 days I posted in 11 different threads. But in your tiny mind apparently that's just about every topic on the Forum. LOL
     
  12. judge

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    11 different threads and multiple times. While your on the topic of how much you post, let's look at the numbers....150,000 post is 6,000 a yr. 500 month and 17 times a day everyday for 25 yrs. I rest my case.
     
  13. SPIKE

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    When I think about it 150,000 posts is way low if you go all the way back to my days on newsgroups which started in 1992 when I got my first computer. I'm remembering some of the forums I was on in the 90s where I had thousands of posts. I was on the Frank Sinatra family forum and I think I had 30,000 post there alone. A quarter of a million posts is probably more like it, maybe more than that. I have a lot to say, don't be so jealous. Start reading more, I have four books on my nightstand right now that I'm reading. I'm a big fan of the life of Ernest Hemingway and have over sixty books about him. Also Frank Sinatra I probably have 40 bucks on him. Start reading more and you'll have a lot to say to.
     
  14. judge

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    LOL...
     

  15. SPIKE

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    Speaking of Sinatra, him and Dean Martin got in huge trouble in the sixties at the Sands Casino of which Frank was part-owner. They were either playing Blackjack or Baccarat and they were winning and when it came time to shuffle the cards Frank wouldn't let the dealer do it. He made her just replay the deck as it was. This got him into huge hot water with Nevada gaming. He eventually lost his gaming license in Vegas and the one he had up north at the Cal-Neva casino because of his involvement with the mafia. Here's a picture of Frank dealing Baccarat at the Sands Casino about 1962. aa2000frank.JPG
     
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    Well I guess that’s your craving spelled out right there. Out of your closet at last.
    I guess if wifey is doing prison gangbang bukkake Sundays , your at liberty to go gay toyboying all you like.
    Is the “tight fitting uniform” Crutcheless?
    What colour?
    Oh are the knee highs leather or latex?
    Are you wearing the horse tail butt plug or is the toy boy wearing it ?

    Are the handcuffs cold steel or fluffy faux fur? I know your wrists are delicate.

    Is the downhill ski position preferred when you are getting dp spit roasted? Or are you just into self fisting in front of an audience? Much like your posts on these forums . All we see is contradiction prolapse, lol.
    Oh what is the background music? Techno? Frankie goes to Hollywood? Pet shop boys?
    Lol spite under your skin tiger. Lol
     
  17. Jae

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    I hope I never reach that point in my life where my head is so far up my ass that I start quoting myself. Did you write this, when did you write this… and that’s all rhetorical. Maybe back in the 90’s, or early 200’s, where my reply would have simply been: “gay.”

    But times are a changin’ and we can’t say that word anymore. Back to the rhetorical—did you write it, I mean, it doesn’t matter either way. But it has this slight feel of some redacted plagiarism. I mean, I know YOU wrote it because it’s pretty boring and I barely made it through, but since it wasn’t 15 paragraphs long talking about your childhood and your mother, I did make it through.

    The first thing I ever read from you was some half-assed shit, that you would finish later according to your statement, because you had a new job writing or something. You basically treated your posts like you were the only fucking dude on the forum that works.

    The whole therapy issue obsession with talking about your mother came off a little Waterboyish at first. Mama said… but now it just feels like some creepy Norman Bates shit.

    While your writing and posts have never really interested me because of your long-winded cheap prose, I just mostly ignored it.

    Typically I don’t say anything ignorant towards anyone on here unless they are a scammer or a useless troll.

    You’ve fallen into a bit of scammer territory for me; although, “scammer” might not be the correct term. Perhaps, just a liar. A fake. A plagiarist narcissist obsessed with his mom. Probably a free-loader, but maybe your lawyer buddy just really likes you while the connection isn’t even strong enough to share your writing with.

    You like stories and long-winded posts, so here’s mine: last year you posted some bullshit on here followed up with an explanation, it was a riddle you created for your students. Don’t bother googling it you said as nobody will find anything. And you’re right. After I solved it, I had a new found respect for you. While I didn’t struggle with the riddle, I found it very clever. A cleverness so deep, that I can actually appreciate the mind that created it. So, now I was at an impass. Because while I found your writing very boring and useless in the baccarat thread, I had to at least maintain this respect for your very brilliant mind. Over thanksgiving, I was visiting some family and I have a very intelligent uncle who loves riddles and puzzles. So I pulled up yours knowing that it was something new and unique for him.

    After letting him read it, he quickly replied: “that’s Einstein’s riddle.”

    “No way!” I said. I’ll Google it, so from your words I googled the riddle and nothing came up. But he told me to google einstein’s riddle, and boom! I realized Frank Kneeland was a plagiaristic fake. And reading over your post, it wasn’t like you were implying that you changed the words in the riddle, you 100% wrote your post in a way that made it out to be that you created the riddle. Because you said, “I created this.”

    I guess I’m just glad I can go back to my original thoughts about you as a person. Boring, full of themselves. But with the added life story details you add that nobody really asked for, I can at least envision you living with an old friend and his wife and working as a photographer taking pictures of people in a bowling alley. Personally, I would have stuck with professionally gambling, but to each their own. Maybe another sucker will hire you to “manage” their baccarat team and just hope you don’t hide some of their money for “bus tickets.”

    But despite my feelings, feel free to keep quoting yourself and talking about your past and mother issues. Weird shit, brings out weird followers. I think that’s why Spike is digging all of your content.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. judge

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    Damn, I love your writings Jae!
     
  19. gizmotron

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    Yep, that was good detective work Jae.
     
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  20. SPIKE

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    Wow, you sure seem to know a lot about whatever subject this is you're talking about,
    Such a lot of detail, I don't even know what half of it means. So you're really into that stuff are you, that sure explains a lot. So when I said anal retentive I was right up your alley, so to speak. LOL
     

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