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TurboGenius Turbo, do you remember the discussion on how to select the repeat?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Dec 4, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    For some reason most players look at a casino as different from the real world. Money there has to be handled differently to them, they have an 'I don't care' attitude about money. The same person who when buying a $100 kitchen appliance we'll search every retail internet site to find the best deal, that same person will think nothing about throwing away $100 gambling. There is a disconnect there that is hard to understand because I don't have it. I am just as careful with my money in the casino as I am anywhere else. Every dollar I win is my money, it's no longer the casino's money and I treat just like I treat the rest of my money. But for some reason most people don't do that and they are the casinos best friend.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I play at Indian casinos where they insist on at least a minimum bet on every spin. So I play the table minimum on a throw out bet. If you play for 3 to 4 hours, like I use to do, you can place all throw out bets on red at the table minimum. You don't even think about it. You consider the process as an unfunded bet. At the end of that three hours you won't be very far down considering that my big risked bet is about $100. My goal is to win from $100 to $300 and gone. The throw out bet is a way to please the casino. It also gets me a free camping spot for my RV.
     
  3. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Active Member

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    Funny you say this. When my GF is up in profits, and loses and ends up giving it back, her attitude is “it’s okay, it was the casinos money anyway”.
    I keep trying to tell her to stop thinking that way but always tries to justify why she’s right. She even tries to convince me to her way of thinking.
     
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  4. SPIKE

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    The Indian casinos around here will let you sit at the table and not bet if the table isn't crowded. I used to sit next to the wheel so the table was just to my left but because I was writing stuff down the pit jerks we're always looking over my shoulder at what I was writing to see if I was a wheel tracker. So now I just sit at one of the closed tables, but I haven't been to a brick-and-mortar casino since March of 2020. They were closed here until October of 2020 and then the restrictions on how many players are allowed at the table were so terrible that I never went.
     
  5. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    DrTalos, allegedly not focusing at bs at all, is all about risk management albeit betting continuously.
    Although coincidentally playing great performing numbers the games are shorter; & I make an effort to play those.
    Perhaps you added new layers in understanding & applying the management of risk.
     
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  6. SPIKE

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    My wife is that way, but she doesn't look at the paycheck she gets as belonging to her company. She looks at the casino wins as free money when it is the opposite of free money. She risked something to get that money and at work she risked nothing for her paycheck. So the casino money should be worth more to her but it never is.
     
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  7. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    If you look at insurance models, they don't accept certain risk. Or the price to accept such risk is higher.
     

  8. Keyser Soze

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    That’s the debate I hate when I find myself at a table with no other players. The dealer won’t spin the ball unless there’s at least the table minimum bet. This throws my game off as I’m forced to play every spin. But like you said, I should incorporate some “throw out bets” but usually I just move on to a RNG table in the mean time
     
  9. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    For high rollers they are given 3 no bet spins.

    For private rooms they are offered unlimited no bet spins. It's part of the negotiated rules.
     
  10. Keyser Soze

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    Nice:finger:! Again learned something new.
    So, how does one get into these high roller rooms? Please don’t say “Players advantage cards” cause I refuse to let casinos know who I am
     
  11. Keyser Soze

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    My bad just realized the emoji. I thought it was giving the thumbs up.
    (Shit! I think I need glasses)
     
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  12. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Sorry, but you can't avoid, reduce or transfer the house edge, at all by "assessing risk" in a game of independent trials. Claiming otherwise is part of the gambler's fallacy.
     
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  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    And what do you feel changes when you set out spins? Since each spin is an independent trial, the previous spins have no value in the random game.
     
  14. Luckyfella

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    You qualify for high roller status by meeting the casino betting requirements.

    You can also negotiate the rules without any history with the casino. Ofc there are rules requirement imposed by the casino, example minimum buy-in and so on.

    So long as the player does not engage in illegal methods, there's no problem identifying yourself. It's better to identify yourself and keep the audit trail of your money transactions clear and verified.
     
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  15. SPIKE

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    99% of casinos have that rule. They are not going to show you a number unless you pay for it or somebody's paying for it.
     
  16. SPIKE

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    You can if your bet selection beats the house edge. I just did it again, play two sessions online and got one unit in each session. I do this every night without fail. Because I have the edge over the casino. Their pitiful edge does not exist for me. They cannot defeat me because I can bet anytime I like and they are forced to take the bet. This gives me a huge advantage. It makes them a Sitting Duck. Do you understand that analogy. A sitting duck is easy to hit because he's just, well, sitting there.
     
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  17. SPIKE

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    Obviously they don't to you, why do you think that's true for everybody. You absolutely cannot prove they have no value or you would have done it by now. You think they have no value, you hope they have no value, but you have no way of proving they have no value. Go ahead, give it a try Caleb. You won't because you can't.
     
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  18. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    If that is the case, then why do you shop for "out of date" food?
     
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  19. gizmotron

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    LOL, that one was funny!
     
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  20. thereddiamanthe

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    In other words, betting less -- minimal betting, & according to the exposition the payout & the amount of positions; in the case of high risk .. combined with more numbers played to alter the degree of the risk.
     

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