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Baccarat Why is it so difficult to win?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Craps, Jun 2, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Bullshit!

    It's Banker. Player, or useless Tie.

    So in all practicality it's A or B, 1 or 2, or it's X or Y. It's nothing more than a single data stream of a binary choice. It can be referred to as a coin toss as a generalization.

    In Roulette you have three natural table layout outcomes. It's Odd or Even, it's Low 18 or High 18, or it's Red or Black. I have made my own private pet groupings based on 18 numbers and their opposing 18 numbers. That makes up three more trackable unique groups and results. These results I refer to as data streams. They all occur simultaneously.

    Now show us all an example of multiple simultaneous data streams from Baccarat.

    This should be fun.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I actually read you worthless explanation for multiple data streams.
    What a joke. I have you surrounded with your single data stream to see your " naturals, doubles, triples, etc." How come you don't know what singles on the weak side are? You experts at Baccarat never came up with that one.

    I look for trends or patterns from 6 different independent data streams at once. You look for your figure formations from one single data stream. This is funny. The king is naked and he thinks it's Spandex.
     
  3. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    I'm pleased to hear that, that makes me different from the rest of the Baccarat crowd.


    Expert at hocus-pocus, congratulations.

    Really? That's some assumption you're making there Gizmo, I've applied, played, multiple data streams for the game of Baccarat, columns are a data stream, when you play running columns of 4, 6, 8, 2's x 2 or even 3's, that's multiple data streams and guess what genius, it doesn't take a lot of scribbling neither, just a single column will suffice, have done that for years.

    I felt honoured that one of math-whizz at WoV took his hat off to me for being to monitor a shoe 4 or 5 different ways while in progress. All meaningless at the end of the day, but gives a player a reason to make a bet.

    See above, you can have as many as you like.

    I'm politically bias.

    Not at all, only specific individuals, which in my book, deserve it, so apologies to everybody else.

    :D:D
     
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  4. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Deary deary me, this is precisely why I respectably suggested you stick to games you know, and leave others games to those that have table experience playing them.
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    As usual JK you crack me up. You have a good way with people. You actually listen to them.

    So these "See above, you can have as many as you like." data streams originate from one source.

    I do the same thing. I'm looking for formations within each individual data stream. You can take your "running columns of 4, 6, 8, 2's x 2 or even 3's, " and apply them to all six of my individual data streams in Roulette and pick through them for the best acting one. I have lots of formations. Single on the weak side is just one formation. The absence of triples is another. Streaks of one side is another. The absence of singles is another. Zigzags is another. I can go on and on. I get to see this in 6 different unique data sources.

    It's not the same. You say you have multiple data streams. I don't think so. If you could play and track 6 different tables at the same time then we would be talking apples to apples.
     
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  6. Randy Burnett

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    Jae,

    It sounds like you have a strategy that works for you, and I would be the first one to congratulate you for separating the casino from their money. God knows that they take plenty of money from others, and will do what ever it takes to accomplish it. I played at a casino one night, and it was so cold in there that you could hang meat. Just keep in mind that the casino is not your friend. Once you have been labeled an Advantage Player, they will come after you, I think they get their kicks by beating Advantage Players. I hope you are successful in your Baccarat endeavor, just remember it is better to give to others than to receive, and I would rather be lucky than good any day..lol

    Wewin2222
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

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    Junket King the all around bull shipper and system fumbler has emerged from the bunker .
     
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  8. Jimske

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    ND, "Mr. Nowhere Man" opines to follow soxfan coattails. Soxfan, you got yourself a groupie adopting your lingo. LOL
     
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  9. Jimske

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    PA Bethlehem pretty dirty from what I am hearing. Mohegan or Foxwood a better choice.

    Weird, I've only seen JAE twice in all this time. Maybe before Covid he was playing at the Poker room or the old area and I just missed him. Anywho, he's never there when I am and I'm there quite a bit.

    Have you started keeping track of statistics? Time, not $ could be a real enemy unless you're willing to sit there for hours on end. I think most of the grinds resolve pretty quick. That's your bread and butter. The other day I watched 4 shoes in a row go by with no entry point.

    SOS, I haven't done more than the 100 shoes. So the jury still out on that one but I suspect it will work out. It bets every hand in a shoe except 2 and averages a bit over 7 units a shoe net so far. We'll see. I'll do more sometime soon. No rush.
     
  10. Jae

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    I’m here. I feel like I’m always here. I’m just usually on the dark side.
     

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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    Jimske and you wanted Mirtle Jones banned. Remember ?
     
  12. Jae

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    I’m actually going to Bethlehem tomorrow for a week. So I’ll give a report on how it is. I’m excited. 4 baccarat games on one stadium. Hoping it’s awesome.
     
  13. Jae

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    Nobody wants you banned though. Every town needs their resident village idiot, respectfully.
     
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    Jinske, Remember when you tried to ban Mierle Jones ?
     

  15. gizmotron

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    Yep. I only know because these people opened a monster sized casino out west near Portland Oregon. It's called the Ilani and it was built by the people that built and operate the Mohegan Sun. It's different than anything built in the Northwest.
     
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    When you say 7U a shoe on SOS, is that flat betting? I've only done 7 shoes on OG..+18, +16, +16, +13, +6, -15 and +18...41\10 was my highest count and it ended up +6. -15 is my stop. I haven't tried flat yet and I don't do marty. Thanks again for your help.




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  17. Jimske

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    I know what your dark side people are like over there. I always play in the light! LOL
     
  18. Jimske

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    No using OG.
     
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  19. Randy Burnett

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    I found this post on another site by Axelwolf. I thought it was a good read.


    January 6th, 2020 at 3:36:47 PM

    I received a call yesterday from a female poker player who also looks for good slot and video poker opportunities. FYI, she plays VP on the square quite frequently, including Ultimate X.

    She told me that as she was walking Into The Wynn high-limit room she noticed an employee was resetting/deleting multipliers. I can't recall how many X's or what denomination, it was at least one 4 times multiplier on a $5 denomination or higher. I asked her what kind of employee it was. Apparently it was a supervisor she kind of knew. She said the guy had a guilty look on his face and quickly yanked out his card and scampered away as fast as possible.

    She was very concerned/pissed off about the situation, so much so, that she called Gaming Controll. The Gaming agent on the phone explained to her they were allowed to do this as long as the machine sat idle for at least 16 minutes. Who knows if they actually waited 16 minutes or if the gaming agent actually know what he was talking about when he says the casinos are legally allowed to do this per their own rules/laws. Apparently she noticed multipliers seem to be disappearing in the past, but she wasn't quite sure what was going on, until now.

    I don't know how this is any different than taking away player funded Progressive money? It's pretty much downright dirty theft from their customers as far as I'm concerned(I wonder how Zcore will defend the casino in this situation?)

    I know there's been some discussion about disappearing multipliers and employees doing this stuff, however, I think it's worth revisiting the discussion.

    She also mentioned that the gaming agent had some other interesting things to say about Advantage players related to this situation, but I don't want to sidetrack this particular situation. Apparently, a gaming agent will be calling her back since she didn't accept what they initially had to say about the situation.


    Wewin2222
     
  20. fathead

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    The last time I was at the Hard Rock in Biloxi I noticed that all the blackjack tables only paid 1.2 to 1 on a blackjack (instead of the normal 1.5 to 1). My wife likes to play blackjack, but I told her that 1.2 to 1 was not a very good deal. But then I spotted some $5 tables that paid 1.5 to 1 with one twist that I had never seen before. You had to put 25 cents in a separate circle when you bet and, win or lose, the house took that 25 cents each hand. They had a big sign explaining that this fee was necessary in order to keep the $5 tables open 24/7. If you flat bet $5 each hand like most do the house edge on those tables was over 5%. I thought that was crazy but the tables were packed.
     
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