Baccarat Why is it so difficult to win?

In Adelaide casino there is a single zero and double zero roulette table next to each other, yep the double zero wheel had way more action than the single zero wheel, the kind of patrons casinos prefer and love.

 

If you are good at clocking the wheel you will play on the double zero wheel. First, you got to know the behavior of the dealer as he can get lazy and spin the ball almost the same speed everytime. Have an accomplice bet on the high side. You stand next to the wheel. In a double zero wheel, the numbers are stretch out in a way that when the low numbers 1 to 18 is EVEN, the high numbers will be ODD and vice versa. This way, you only need to cover 9 numbers on the low side and your partner the other 9 numbers on the high side 19-36. This layout is ideal for this type of play. Furthermore, there are more sectional style playing with the double zero layout.
Anyway, surveillance are usually former casino crooks and once they spot this, they will either call down to request dealer to do what they are taught in school which is to vary the speed of the ball OR call no bets immediately after spin.

 

What a bunch of magical horseshit. From Martingale genius to clocking the wheels. You really are a gift to the gambling world.

 

I’m actually surprised that you’d think that. I’d assume any serious roulette player would know that a dealer signature is an actual advantage play.

You have to be pretty quick, mentally, but it’s not difficult. The hardest part is the discipline and patience it requires. Only a small fraction of dealers are capable of the consistency. The table conditions have certain requirements as well. If you can find a table wiry minimal action so that the ball is being spun more often and there aren’t a lot of number place bets for long payouts, then you click the dealer and see if they have a consistent ball landing. As long as the wheel is keeping a consistent ref, you have to watch the ball release, and figure out how many spaces away the ball typically lands. When you determine that area, make 3 neighborhood bets so you’re covering 15 numbers surrounding the area you predict the ball will drop. When these dealers come along, it’s just as craps says, they are being lazy. They aren’t changing up the wheel speed too much and are spinning the ball consistently. You can easily get a 70%+ advantage from these dealers, but again, they are on the rare side.

 

Get a job on the other side of the table or attend dealer school. Casino surveillance too. You are actually not making us improve but making us goes backwards.

 

We have had a resident cook here on the forums for decades. He goes about attempting to recruit people that will help him find biased wheels. The casinos have long sense installed defensive measures to defeat bias wheel players. Because of this it is impossible to use wheel clocking anymore. The scatter after the ball leaves the track defeats any sector advanatge that once existed. Anyone advocating that it is still possible is ill-informed.

You are some guy that has wonderful experiences using a progression that should wipe you out. For me it's just a matter of time.

As far as wheel clocking and your description of it goes, it just rubbish. You have tarnished you armor. Wheel clocking has been dead and buried for decades. Only scam artist are trying to sell it as possible.

 

So you want to defend magical hocus-pocus too? Fine. It sits well with your image as a Marti expert. The dumb guys are holding court for the suckers that will listen to them. Craps has just crapped out.

 

ND, there is not a single effective and successful wheel clocker left in the gambling world these days. So go ahead and show one off. Some of that fake video crap spewed by scammers will not suffice.

 

A biased wheel and a dealer signature are exclusively the same.

Finding a biased wheel isn’t impossible. But they get recalibrated so often that it is most likely useless. If I were looking for one, I wouldn’t attempt a high-end casino, but smaller ones with older wheels and cruise ships. I still think it’s pointless, when there are many other methods better suited for your time. But I definitely would not disregard a dealer signature. It’s factual.

 

That is so telling. You are not exactly informed as to these two uniquely divergent tactics that are physics based. One is a deformation of balance where one sector of the wheel favors a single sector of the wheel continuously. That is known as wheel bias. The other is based on visual ballistics where a skilled expert once could watch a wheel and predetermine the sector that the ball would likely fall into. That is not possible now with the way the wheels are designed now. You can find long drawn out discussions on this topic that have gone round and round on the forums for years. It's done. Visual ballistics is dead.

The fact that you don't know this puts new light on your expertise. Sophistry tends to make for a pathetic pose once you are caught using it. You are caught using it.

 

Calling yourself a Roulette expert. Before you bash, read again what I have posted. Instead of wanting to discuss or learn more for the sake of winning, you chose to play know it all. The double zero wheel have the numbers arranged in such a way that if you split the wheel into 2 halves with 0 and 00 as the median you will find 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 with 19 21 23 25 27 29 31 33 35 on one side. On the other side it will be 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 with 20 22 24 26 28 30 32 34 36. It will take less than 5 seconds to bet all 18 numbers with 2 people doing it.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CLOCKING 18 NUMBERS OR HALF OF THE WHEEL, DUDE! There is tons of room for errors. Bet 18 to win 18. If you can get above 50% you are in good shape. Furthermore, if the spin is borderline to your liking, you can always sit out and not bet.
When I deal this at Stadium Roulette, I always practice on a dead game looking at the wheel. I can easily achieve above 50% . It's not worth my job though to collaborate with anybody.

 

I've witnessed a lot of dealers doing this, when a game is quiet.

 

You really amaze me with your sophistry. There have been visual ballistic experts over the past decades tell all about splitting the wheel. You act like it's something new. It's a dead and buried skill. If you actually look at wheels you will notice that the scatter often jumps to the opposite sides. All you are trying to do is pawn off how happy you are with confirmation bias.

And what is this crap about you acting as Jae's mom? Are you triggered? I was talking to him.

 

Let me take you two bozos to school. The new wheels are much more gradual in their slope design. This causes a ball that did not hit an obstacle on the way out of the track to travel far more perpendicular to the boundaries between the numbers when it reaches the numbers track. The boundaries are much shorter now between numbers. This causes a ball to skip off the tops of each boundary for a short while. Extra diamond shaped obstacles have been added below the wheel track too. These are the things that have defeated wheel clockers. In other words, even if you were skilled before it is impossible now. The only people advocating visual ballistics now are the scammers selling the advice, that includes you two bozos and the other two that like what you suggested.

 

Don't make it sound as though we are trying to win EVERY SPIN. True to your words its more difficult to control the drop with the new wheels nowadays but why are you shunning the fact that we are using 18 # to win 18 #. We are just looking for that slight edge. So it's better to read Randomness with the EVEN BETS & tougher to use a mechanical skill to control the spin. Who is more experienced on actually spinning a Roulette wheel. You or Me?

 

There are STIll casinos that uses the deep slotted wheels.

 

I was dabbling with Roulette a good few years ago, was doing really well (winning consistently, as in an entire month, 6 days per week, small amounts which soon added up). Casino got pissed off, so introduced a heavier ball so it wouldn't bounce so much and of course to assist the dealers, you could literally hear the difference, sounded like a lead weight, myself and other regulars made a few comments. There ya go.

When your winning nickels and dimes you never encounter this sort of crap.

 

You don't know jack shit. Your experience is watching for post placed or taken off bets and other forms of cheating, not to mention dumb-shit dealers that rake winning bets. And pit bosses are watching for dealers that cheat by paying off partners. If you could throw a double zero any time you wanted then you could have a playing partner. But you can't. Nobody can deliberately target a sector or even a half of the wheel on purpose. It's nothing more than confirmation bias making you think that you can. Reading randomness is about assuming that the outcomes are not mechanical but truly random. The streaks of randomness including elegant patterns and the global effect are far more rewarding to a skilled player than any magical ability assumed. You don't understand the mechanics of the modern wheels and you clearly are clueless with regards to Reading Randomness. But you do have magical powers that give you the right to question reality.

 

Gizmo I know you come here for your daily social interaction but go for a lie down, or maybe a walk, look at the clouds and pull ya head out of them. You've morphed into a Frankenstein version of Spike.

Respectfully

 

In the mid 90's when the Pelayos family got caught, the casinos around the world started switching out parts of the wheels and moving them around the casinos. They also added the use of three different sized balls. This was done to put an end to physics players. That was when the new shallow wheels started showing up. It's been 25 years. If a casino is still using the old fashioned wheels it deserves to be exploited. I have not seen one anywhere on the west coast other than old museums and junk being sold as scrap.

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