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Baccarat Win little, lose big?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by zzzgam, Dec 18, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    Captain Obvious speaks again. Quick I have to write that one down.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

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    What would be the PERFECT edge over the casino ??
     
  3. porky

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    There is no way to gain an edge over any casino game. People that think they have and edge doing nothing more than simple trending are delusional. A 75% hit rate with a tight bet selection method with trending could be hit. Especially betting only once. That is 3 out of 4 bets. IF your not in a hurry and looking for a reason NOT to bet it can be done. When I posted about casino hopping I don't remember my strike rate. BUT, I would often go in a casino look at the games roulette, craps, and baccarat, and walk right back out the door. Yeah could have waited to see if it changed but kept moving. Some casino somewhere is hitting follow the last right now. That is a fact you just have to be there when it does..... Some casino game is hitting a chop pattern right now. Some guy is throwing a six or eight every time he gets the dice right now. Some table is ice cold so the dc is hotter than hell....... Every day in some casino.... If it didn't match any of those why play.... If your trying to do what its doing when not matching YOUR selection methods DON'T play.......To those that think not.... sorry it can be done that way.... one casino though....Not interested....
     
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  4. Frank Kneeland

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    While I understand that there are differences in the games we play that preclude an exact match of goals I have found the best way to moderate my in casino behavior is to make all my decisions on what I will do once I get there, is to make them at home. What I'm going to play, how I'm going to play it, and for how long are all decided before I leave home.

    Even in a game like blackjack where the game might not be good that day because of who's dealing cards, you can still make a rule like:

    I'm going to look for edge flashers and only play if I see one. Again, you might stay and play or leave without a wager but the goal was set before your feet hit the casino floor.
     
  5. Frank Kneeland

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    One thing you need to be mindful of is what I like to call "the magic underwear effect". If you are always altering your strategy and system and changing your behaviors in the face of loss, then it becomes quite easy to see illusory control. The quintessential example is someone that wore a different pair of underwear each day to a casino and on the day they won attributed it to their choice of underwear and continued to wear the same underwear forever.

    All I'm saying is that you can't necessarily connect the dots between what you are doing and how you are doing. In games involving a random element the only explanation required to explain a result is that it happened.

    Happy New Year...
     
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  6. SPIKE

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    That's what I've been saying for the last 6 weeks. If it's not playing your game don't bet. If you have a good bet selection and you know when not to bet, that gives you the edge over the casino. It also gives you the edge over the game. In roulette the casinos edge is based on the wheel constantly producing random numbers and you betting randomly on those numbers. If you refuse to do that, if you wait and make sure the wheel is producing numbers that are playing your specific game, that takes the edge away from the casino and gives it to you. I win every session I play doing this. I have the edge over a casino game and their edge has disappeared because I can bet anytime I want and they have to take the bet which lets me completely control my game. This is why in a brick-and-mortar casino I never sit at the table because if I do that I have to bet on every spin. I sit away from the table and watch the outcomes and when it's playing my game then I walk up and make a bet. Everybody else is sitting there betting on every spin and wondering why they're losing. They have no game they are completely at the mercy of the house edge.
     
  7. X5Hitman

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    The casino make their profits based on gamblers with undisciplined mentality thinking casino is handing out easy money. In a sense it is because you make a bet on an outcome and win. What's so hard about it we ask? The excitement start to creep in our heads and eventually the "GREED" start to grow little by little each time. Then come the bad streak and we start losing not only our winning money then some from our bank account and credit cards. Now the "ANGER/DEPRESSION" introduce into our heads and saying to ourselves "I should have left when I was up". Uncontrollable emotional begins and all hell break loose from there. The problem is the "GREED" demon inside majority of human subconscious minds are like virus covid-19. You can't get rid of it but can only subdue it by strong discipline and patience rules set out to follow. As soon as you let your guard down it will rise up again. That's how we walk into the casino's trap.

    Let me tell you my story:
    Last month I've won over $20k within 5 days. I had my discipline and patience mojo going really great but for whatever reason one night I've decided to swing by the casino which I shouldn't have as I was really tired from early morning playing at the casino and then my day time job after. I've let my guard down and the greed of excitement from winning over the last few days got me into the trap. I've brought $6k of chips and eventually lost them all that night. My anger/depression start to take over and kept on withdrawing winning money from the bank with hardly any sleep. Just one bad decision after another and eventually I lost another $25k over the a span of like 7 days. Since that night I've lost all the discipline and confident so I've decided to shut it down. I never felt so low since the covid-19 started which was sandwiched in between the last big loss at the same casino. It has been almost a month since that I haven't been back at the casino and during that time I had a lot of time on my side to do some soul searching/self reflect. I've realized something was missing in my game to collapse last time. The discipline was there but it was not as strong as I set out to believe. I've fine-tuned the goal structure a bit and now feel good about going back to get the job done right this time.
     
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  8. X5Hitman

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    Having the edge over the casino is like the ability to build a condo floors by floors up nice and high. Focus, patience and discipline are the foundations underneath if you want your winning money to last long.

    If I don't have the edge how do I possibly have won over $10k in 24hr/ 3 sessions at the casino? The key to having that edge sharp is to keep it nice and clean. Don't over use it in one day in IMO.

    I rather win over $10k in 1 week instead. You get my drift.
     
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  9. X5Hitman

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    Thank you and Happy Holidays!
     
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  10. SPIKE

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    I keep saying here over and over you have to conquer greed if you're going to be a professional gambler. There are these guys who play on Blackjack teams and do really well for the team. They get paid their money and go back to the casino and blow it all on the craps table. Or even worse they take their winnings and don't give it to the team because they think they can double their winnings by playing craps and of course they lose it all. Those people are not professional gamblers, they are typical gamblers.

    That is a nice story you told because it illustrates how powerful greed is. This may sound silly but it worked for me. On a long drive to the casino I would see a billboard up ahead and say to myself no matter how much I want, I'm not going to look at the billboard. After a while I got good at it and it was teaching me discipline. It kept me from betting again when I really wanted to because of greed. It taught me self control on the way to the casino. Most people have no self-control at all. If the donuts are free they will eat six of them instead of one. Somebody might lose 40 lb in 3 months but they will gain it all back because they have no self-control. Every professional gambler has mastered self control or he won't be a professional gambler for very long. You have to learn when enough is enough and be satisfied with that.
     
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  11. X5Hitman

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    Totally agree 100%.

    It seem like you've mastered self control at a very high level. Very good indeed and my admiration to you from me personally.

    "Nothing is easy yet nothing is difficult"
     
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  12. soxfan

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    Query, what exactly constitute havin the edg over the casino, hey hey????
     
  13. gizmotron

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    Not being taken out by human nature. If you play then you know that it goes up and down if bet selection does not matter. BTW, it goes up and down if your mother matters to the latest ship in port. It matters if you have run out of Guinness and beer nuts. But it does not matter to people always getting a laugh at your expense.
     
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  14. SPIKE

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    When you leave with more money then you came there with every time you play.
     

  15. jbs

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    When the payoff exceeds the odds of winning.
     
  16. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Silly retarded low IQ habit inflicted runt can no longer afford Beer and nuts, addicted gamblers who are stone cold broke resort to kitchen table testing for literally months and months on end to fulfil their urge.
     
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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
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    The ap wise-guy and mathite informed me that 12000 tested shoe was too small the sample size. Ain't no big thing to test 40-50-60 shoe over a few hours each day. You do sound like a sill whiny little cunt actually trying to mock and chide me for testings sufficient. Of course yer an envious little bitch WHAT never pony up a sensible, objective, replicable style that could shoe a consistent nets profits buckin up against a minimum of 1000 tested shoe. And you never will, hey hey.
     
  18. Rond1nell1

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    My goal is simple about the casino.
    He gets the advantage and I get the money!!! LoL :)
     
  19. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Haha, over how long, the last few years, I know you're stone cold broke and living off welfare, but can't you find something else better to do, something more production such as a job, you could pull in a few bob by giving "a reach around" seeing you've basically admitted your that way inclined!!!

    This is what happens when gambling debts and damage starts to BITE, when people are try to portray themselves as successful at gambling, once exposed for the broke ass idiots that they really are, they lash out, not the first (i.e former eBay watch scammer).


    Here ya go botty hughie, it is apparent you ain't got any, so enjoy looking at mine, hope 2022 goes better for ya, well not really, haha

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    Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh the little limey cunt is a total nutter, projecting all of his shortcomings onto others. The chickens shit, scared loser, addicted blimey playin for peanut on that corny Grovesnor online joint for a quid a hand. The little bitch will NEVER EVER pony up a style of play that survive scrutiny but the dumb cunt is so adept at posting up pictures of bank notes and chip to try and convince others and maybe himself that he ain't the pathetic loser baccarats player he is, hey hey.
     

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