Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

More compulsive lies. I posted "Irwin, PA"? How is that personal?

You tell anyone who will listen that you are from PA, you work at a bar blah, blah, blah. I googled Boz PA, and up you came on the Saltsburg forum. Easy peazy. By the way, it looks like you compulsively lie on there too. From there it was quite simple to get the rest of your information, much of which I have already forgotten. You're just not that interesting. I think the technical term is...loser.

Yes, I get that you like Larry better than me. It's a tough pill to swallow but I'm dealing with it. You think it was easy seeing you invite him to see Charles Barkley with you and not invite me? How is Charles?

So keep trying to impress the munchkins over at WOV. Keep doing manboy's bidding. And wear that compulsive liar proudly. Opinions? Unlike you thin skinned cultists that can't think for themselves, I am fine with opinions. I won't go running to the mods when I don't like them.

Okay...your turn to say something childish. Make it something new. Your repetitiveness is as boring as it is on WOV.

 

Buzzard's back on WOV with another new name. In your face Zuga! You have no power. They hate that you banned their boy and they will keep defying you. Zuga doesn't matter.

 

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He may have a few times however since then it's been an OFFER(pimping) IIRC he normally just says, "Ill GIVE you 1500 to fuck her"(Again, i'm not going to go back digging up and re-posting quotes) That's definitely not a wager. Let's not water it down by calling it a good old fashion wager.

the term Sock-puppet has become a more general term and is oftentimes used in place of the term alias or someone with multiple accounts.
They may not be used to give support their other names.

Mrs.AxelWolf I believe, not 100% sure now it's fairly obvious from her post as she indicated the reasoning for coming and making the post.

TBH I really didn't notice the report button until Larry mentioned it. And I haven't ever read the Rules of the forum because I have no intentions of selling, scamming or making multiple accounts. After seeing the trashy conduct allowed I probably assumed anything goes.

If you're telling me he hasn't posted up the fact that he sells some BS and mention some other forum you are wrong because he did. I looked though a few pages but gave up. Im sure you would be able to water it down and give a pass on some technicality.

I don't know who the 15 people are however I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are people with something for sell or with a scammy agenda.

I won't argue the fact that it's harder here than many other sites (I don't really visit too many other forums) IMO any legitimate gaming site should have a zero tolerance regarding -EV systems or promoting anything like that whatsoever.

I just found this. 4.) I opened the school as a convenience for those that wanted to be brought through it without having to search the other forum at BS for it. Once it was paid for I decided to drop the price to the price of a good gambling book. That's where it is right now. It's hardly a rip off at this point. 17 people have taken me up on this method of learning at the school. The school opened up two months ago. The only place the school has been mentioned is at BS.cc and here. I've deliberately kept it tight and to a small aspect of the gambling community. I'm very pleased with the small numbers too.
His stuff is a scam no matter what anyone says. I have made him a legitimate lucrative one sided offer in his favor to show and prove his shit works like he's claiming, and you can guess what happened. More BS. Again, I couldn't find an example because I didn't look very hard

Get over yourselves, GF is not important enough for me to be saving ammunition for later, that's a reducoulose tinfoil hat theory. I wouldn't have come here if not for banned WOV members. -system player, binary crap and WOV banned members this place would be a ghost town.
I repeat, this site isn't important enough to make much effort in exposing stuff. I didn't even use the search feature looking for anything regarding this until just now. I stopped after one simple search.

Perhaps you think my life revolves around online forums. It definitely doesn't, It's somewhat of a hobby and something that fits into my line of work. Doing so has greatly benefited me on many levels....so why not do something I enjoy and benefits me?
Lucky for me I don't have a 9 to 5 and I can pop on my phone whenever I want wherever I'm at if I wish so I can make more posts than the average person. If ever it becomes not enjoyable or non productive I would stop or make significantly less posts.

I didn't really think you grasp how much effort people put into scamming or what lengths they will go. We have no clue what's really going on behind the scenes here.

I'm board.
Again, Ill be back

 

The Wizard was really impressive with his football picks this weekend. Good thing I didn't take your advice and follow his gifted talent picking teams.

Quote from WOV "Mike has selected every underdog and picked the Under each time. And of course, so far every favorite has covered, and four of the six games have gone over. Hence Mike's current record of 2-10."

 

Force? Such a strong word. Is branding someone a "liar" on your forum your way of forcing someone to comply? I do hope you understand that means nothing in the world and actually would give internet cred (if there is such a thing) to some coming from you guys. Face it, until you are willing to admit who you are, where are from instead of just a hidden mail box unit in Sarasota Florida, people will question your motives. By the way, I love the Big Top Brewing's IPA. You can change all that by just giving some incite into all these other forums you seem to own and operate. But why would you?

Otherwise to me, your either with the scammers or playing the scams and working a long con game. No I can't prove you are, but you have done nothing you prove you are not. In the end, neither of us is hurt by keeping the status quo.

 

I think whether most knowledgeable gamblers view this as a "safe haven" for "scammers" pretty much depends on the definitions of "safe haven" and "scammers."

If the majority of gambling sites allow the kind of roulette and forex stuff that's on here, well, that's one thing. I don't go to many gambling sites. The only ones I have any experience with are vegascasinotalk, lvadvisor, and lvadvice. All I know is that the few serious sites I've joined would not allow this kind of garbage. This is not a good place for people to learn how to gamble. Since the admin claims to have no gambling expertise, I feel confident they have nothing to say to contradict that.

I'm somewhat embarrassed to have my name attached to this site, but I did not know it would be like this.

 

As a confirmed liar, I would NOT like my account permanently removed because I enjoy being part of a forum with such world class members. Please do NOT remove my account!

Other than KJ, Redietz, Mickey and those assholes still postings at WoV, the rest of the regulars here are Workd Class gambling experts without agendas. I would be disappointed if I was no longer approved to post along such noted gambling experts you founded this site with. I cannot imagine not getting daily Forex updates from Andrea or the latest Roulette advise from these experts.

Please Don't remove my account. And redietz, please don't come to WoV, your kind isn't welcome there!

Thank you Mr Admin!

 

Too bad this site was not moderated in the correct way. All you really have here is a few of the members using it for their own fun & games. Whenever there was a decent post about gambling it was over-ridden with factiousness and ridicule.

A number of the proactive members seem to boast and boast and boast. IMO, try 'straight dope' forum, might be right up your alley. LOL.

 

Oh, heck, I'm more than happy to have my association with this site wiped clean if that means wiping ALL PREVIOUS POSTS. Is that what you mean by "permanently removing" my account? I didn't know you could do that, but if you can, great.

If that's not what you mean, then no, because having historical evidence of my participation on the site maintains my sense of discomfort and embarrassment.

But if you're willing to wipe all evidence of my presence here, I'm happy as hell. It was an error in judgement on my part to sign up for this morass without knowing what kind of quagmire you were hosting.

I signed up initially for Mickey Crimm, but he's over at vegascasinotalk, so nothing is lost on that end.

I've been very gentle with you folks. You entertain a lot of opinionated folks on this site, so let me throw an opinion out there. My opinion is that Boz is more likely right than wrong regarding this site.

As to sock puppets, I have never used one in my life. I sign my name to what I write, as a good journalist, or administrator, or site owner, should do.

 

As I'm a certified liar, I'm betting Redietz will keep posting here as you are 100% correct in saying he is saying NO. He didn't fuck up signing up here, just like I didn't. Anyone who say you are are the lowest of the lows is so wrong.

He will keep posting so you can remind him of it with the games you don't play.

And these games you don't play will never keep you from getting new members.

And I know you truly understand how highly you are respected in the gambling community.

 

Unlike some folks, I'm forum/tech naive. I thought maybe you could wipe my participation from the face of the earth. No such luck, eh?

Well, as a parting gift to you, I'll agree to have you close my account if you agree to leave this particular post in the archives.

I have seen minimal helpful gambling advice on this forum. I have seen minimal Las Vegas information on this forum. The forex and roulette threads outnumber and drown out any useful information. The names you allegedly signed up early on have minimal participation.

If you'll notice, at no point did I advertise or promote my own expertise, which includes presenting at the National Conference on Gambling and Risk-Taking, more than a decade being evaluated by the Las Vegas-based McCusker Report, and being included in Who's Who in Sports Gambling.

My name is R.E.Dietz. Members can wait with baited breath for the admin and owners to identify themselves. This site is, in my professional opinion, more hype than substance.

I wish Boz well in his quest to be a thorn in your side. He's doing novice gamblers who visit here a real service. I'm sure there are many reasons being "uncensored" can be a good thing. Boz provides an example.

Beware of scams, my friends. They are all around us.[/QUOTE]

 

There have been many posts talking about the massive threat of being scammed from this site. I was wondering, and I ask this because I havent read every single post.....but are there examples of people complaining that they have indeed been scammed????

I mean on WOV, manboy has backed bovada and other gambling sites openly....yet bovada was proven to be a scammer . And who knows what goes on behind closed doors of the other casinos he gives his seal of approval to.

Are these lost souls from WOV hypocrites in that respect. In that they are not holding shackelfords feet to the fire for supporting bovada and other onine casinos.

Go ahead...go to wov and make him accountable.....see how long you last.

The freedom on this board that allows your to point fingers at the admin here does not exists elsewhere. Shackleford would much rather ban you then engage in a back and forth defending himself or giving his side. When the fuck does that ever happen. He is above that in his mind.

There are people over there that says thats the way it should be. You know..if you are allowed to openly question the grand wiazard then I guess he will be overthrown and taken over by the dark side. There will be the equivalent of riots and destruction if the grand wizard is engaged in a debate ....a debate that he has a chance of losing. Like unmasking the wizard of Oz. THE axholes, and Vs of munchkinland are petrified of the dire consequences. According to those type MUNCHKINS, ......me , bb1, b9, and dozens of others that dared ask questions that made the wizard uncomfortable.....deserve permanent banning....even if what they posted was truthful.

Yet here people from wov come here and post accusation that make the admin uncomfotable...and they are allowed to stay. They actually get to have an exchange.

Is the exchange with the admin hurting this board??? Where one argument is met with a counter argument. Where someones make believe accusations are met with cold hard facts?

If anything it doesnt weaken the admin....it shows the admin to have backbone.

Something shackelford doesnt display because he has the suspension button to hide behind.

For the people like V....who says he can see why people are banned for questioning the person in charge...he can see why people are banned for seeking a back and forth discussion......all I can say is ..whats the benefit. The person (like this admin) is not going anywhere even if the debate is won by someone else. And shackleford is not going anywhere if he loses one or 2 debates.

So what are all those suspension saving in reality.

All those suspension on a thread made to critique mods and managements oversight.......what good were they except to piss people off and help lose membership. if you were on the wrong side of an issue on a "discussion of susp list" thread....and engaged in a debate....you could be nuked...especially if you were gaining support.

And so what if you gain support.....what the fuck can happen.......is there a chance the winner of the debate takes over the website and demotes shackelford...or dismisses him.

Its all sillly mind games that they love to play over there,,,,,AND WHATS LEFT....people who psychologically need to play mind games....and people who like to sit back and watch the mind games being played.

Not so here....everything is out in the open. No eggshells, no mind games by management,.....just a fucking open message board.

very simple.

 

Links?

 

As a certified liar, I don't hope the last post from Bob Dietz isn't his last. What a bad way to go.

And by no way would he be welcome at WoV. There are no good game designers, BJ players or sports betters there. Steelco knows nothing about stocks so avoid his info.

And nobody there misses KJ or Mickey.

Stay here and support owners who are 100% transparent in their goals and intentions.

 

With Tons of legitimate, reputable internet posters I have to add as a certified liar.