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Roulette You can't beat the math, or can you?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Giz,

    Please attack the message, not the messenger.

    Let's try this again. If the number of pockets on the wheel remains the same from one spin to the next, then how could the odds of winning change on the next series of spins because of what has hit on the previous spins? What are the physics behind this change in probability? What past information do you believe is traveling forward in time and changing the outcome of the next series of spins?
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There is only one snowshit. Don't feed the troll.
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Just as I suspected. You're not capable of making an intelligent reply. I suppose it's time for you to go back to your safe zone on betselection, where the mods can coddle and protect you from the facts, logic, and common sense. large_pity-the-fool.jpg
     
  4. redietz

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    I do not understand. Are we to believe that the person, in all this world, who discovered these realities is gracing www.gamblingforums.com and not academic journals, Discover magazine, or CNN? Why would that someone go to a barely-functioning gambling forum and make his case for having rewritten the laws of probability? What sense is there in that?

    Let's try to pin this down. In a year's time, will everything be revealed, or will this be an ongoing, forever promising, not-quite-finished diatribe for months and years to come?

    Why not just take the material to academia and become famous forever? Why rant here and call people names?
     
  5. RS

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    Wtf is an encryption key with a quarter-million bits? Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what he means, but that's like saying you have a car that can go 5 trillion miles per hour.

    Not sure why you'd even need to encrypt a program so it can't be hacked (wtf??), just write the damn program on your computer. If it works as intended and your AI theory proves to work, then go hit the casinos and start making some money. If it doesn't work or you can't make money from roulette using this theory (which, I doubt would work, to say the least), then it's all useless, IMO, since the whole idea is to make money.
     
  6. RouletteGhost

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    After all the years isn't anyone sick of snowman no man with the condescending messages and pictures?

    Enough already

    Noone cares that much. Its obviously for self gratification and own inner issues

    AP player would be in the field. Not system forums

    At the very least would limit one self tonthe AP forum.....sad at best

    No matter what the message is it hurts the integrity of the forum when its done in this manner

    Be an adult. Say your piece. And leave it
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Amazingly comical from my perspective. I have not and will not rewrite the laws of probability. My expertise is in the practical application of an already existing law, Bayes Law, of which I have zero interest in understanding mathematically. In as much time as it takes for me to write all my principals of randomness into a conjoined algorithm is exactly how long it will take to deliver. First I'll publish several actual runs as telemetry results. You guys can check them and have a cow that the algorithm is somehow cheating and looking forward. That will be your denial phase. Then I'm going to dump the app in your lap so that any of you can confirm that it makes bet selections before the next spin, where the next spin is entered by you. This is where it gets good. You can cheat in order to make it lose on purpose because you will see what the next bet is. Funny of me, isn't it. You will claim that my app cheated but you will in fact be tempted to cheat yourself. Snowman will cheat for sure. That's plastered all over Mt Rushmore, that one is certain.

    I'm here because the proof does not exist yet and you people are the other side of the research. I want to know if I can effectively teach others to do what I have discovered. Academics are only interested in their own research. I know people that are experts in the field of research. They can't listen for more than a kind minute. You see, they think they know what most of you think that you know. Being professional thinkers they won't risk their reputations on what they believe is gibberish. We at these gambling forums actually have more open minds and we understand our own jargon. You asked why? Because I wanted to publish it before it was revealed. The student phase is going fine. These are not scientists. But they do represent a small case study in a beginning towards validation. The research is being conducted. You want your 15 minutes? Keep making asses of yourselves for all those that want to look at all this after it reaches validation in that academic world you suggest. I know what I have and I freely admit that I have set you up. You can thank snowman for my pragmatic approach. He started this at GG and I'm going bulldoze all incarnations of him. Wouldn't it be amazing if snowman and Spike are the same person and that they have used their bickering to drive traffic to these forums all along. Spike is just as obnoxious as snowman. What about a split personality? That would be really interesting.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There are a lot of wrong assumptions that should not be left as conclusions here. I'll post another time on that encryption. I'm going to use an encrypted key so that I can remove that encrypted key after one week. You will have one week to decide if it works or not. You are expert gamblers and are the very best people to confirm it working or not. I can't use the program at a casino in the USA and can't use it online in other countries because of federal laws here. I don't need a computer to use this method at a casino anyway. So no. it is not about the money. It's about succeeding at something that has not been done in the past 200 years. It's about being the validated first. That's worth more to me than money.
     
  9. AxelWolf

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    Splike AKA EvenBob? I mean he doesn't have a legitimate system It may be working for him(doubtful) but it won work for anyone else.

    My question is why do systems only work when no one is around and how come no one is rich from playing their systems?

    Ya, ya, I know, money isn't everything, and it won't buy happiness (Even though studies show that money does "buy" it)

    But how come NO ONE actually wants to make a bunch of money? It's that the main objective of gambling? If it's just entertainment why not play for free chips or something?

    I cant even see a reason to sit around and argue with people. Just start a private forum and invite people who believe.

    Quit wasting time go get proof already and then come back and show it.
     
  10. RouletteGhost

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    I see you on wov axel. Or used to before they became a online casino promoter
     
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  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    "Wtf is an encryption key with a quarter-million bits?"

    This is going right into the weeds and I apologize for that up front.

    I created my own variant of the Blowfish Algorithm. It's a 32 bit block cypher that uses a 32 bit encryption key to produce a 440 bit encryption level. This is based on the use of 128 characters commonly used on a computer. My version uses all 256 characters making it a 880 bit level. I added a very unique cyber block chaining front end to it so that it would not be crack-able as "Code Book" format. That function is passed as a 32 bit randomization of the available 256 characters that computers use. These characters are placed in front of the content to be encrypted and used to further obfuscate the content by using the first 32 bits to encrypt the next 32 bits. That's what CBC does. So you take 880 time 880 and you get 774,400 bit encryption. If I'm wrong then it can be no less than 1,760 bit. It uses a unique form of the mod function too. It can only be executed in the native development language that it is written in as a running application. That makes it impractical to break the original 32 bit key by "Brute Force Attack." This algorithm is registered with the US government as required by law. Does that help?
     
  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    EvenBob, that figures. When he was Cheese, and at my throat, I became Crackers just to mess with his head. Everyone knew it was me. I made that absolutely clear.

    Funny, systems only work when no one is around, and flying saucers only appear in the swamp. That's mostly true. I started out wanting to make a bunch of money. Go figure. I expect my students to go ahead and get that money and to do it in front of others. They will eventually.

    I'm just publishing before the fact and taking the obligatory heat for doing so. It's not rocket science.
     
  13. Junket King

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    Gizmo face the truth, you are a deluded lonely broke old man, posting on forums for social interaction. Doesn't matter if he experience or positive or negative, as long as somebody engages you. All this winning roulette system clap-trap is meaningless, you crave social interaction to fill a massive void, just like Spike.
     
  14. AxelWolf

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    Explain what laws you're talking about?

    I have a great deal for you. We both find a independent party, We can either agree on someone reputable, or find a legitimate escrow service. We both escrow 2k to 10+ or whatever you can afford, I'll actually put up double. I'll use your system, WITH YOUR MONEY. MY ESCROWED MONEY IS TO ASSURE AND GUARANTEE I DON'T just take your money or winnings. I'll VIDEO record or stream all my play.So everything can be verified. At the end you'll receive all you're winnings or be responsible for any losses.. If you're system does as you claim then there's no reason we won't make a bunch of money we can continue for as long as you want, and after x amount of profits, ill expect a small percentage.

    If you're system is complicated and only you can play it perfectly I can set up a live video feed and take betting directions.

    There's zero risk for you basically you'll have someone working for you without having to leave your house and no risk of theft or cheating you.
     

  15. gizmotron

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    OK, thanks for that too spandex boy.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Tempting offer but no. I would be happy to take your money but teaching you would be a waste of my time. If you want to be taught go get it for free. You think I want a forum hack to be my proof? Who are you kidding? That's really a sad attempt. Why don't you pay me the school fee (now half price) and see for yourself. That fee pays for seeing it all linearly and as steps to learning it without it just being a published declaration. I wonder what an expert like you would do with a working method. I'm not afraid. Otherwise wait. You can learn it and make your movie. See if I care if you can do it or not.
     
  17. AxelWolf

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    Yes and I'm still there on WOV, so rest assured I'm not yanking your chain, my offer is legitimate and I have the resources and ability to set this deal up.
    We can address and figure out any concerns or complications that you have. There's nothing to prevent this from actually working or happening but you, where there's a will, there's a way.

    If you don't have the money to invest, But surly that's not the case with your skill. But if by some miracle you don't, then I'm willing to bet smaller amounts and spend less time, broken up, whenever I'm available and feel like it, until the bankroll grows, however if you/we lose, ill expect to be compensated for my time. If you prove you're system works I can replicate the same situation with multiple people and or whatever you want.


    With Any balking at this offer, one would have to assume you're bluffing and JK was dead on about his assessment about you.
     
  18. AxelWolf

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    Sad attempt at what? If anyone wanted to steal youR system they would just pay the fee and do so. I'll be willing to sign a NDA and put up a good deal of earnest money that would greatly compensate you if I try anything funny.

    I'm VERY anti book writing and publicity talking about about legitimate gambling methods I have been since I started in the 90's, I don't post up pictures and crap, or divulge to much information. Take the time to research my posts and you'll see all that. I'm fairly secretive of anything I do regarding Advantage Play. I have worked with a fair amount of people who will testify to those facts. My goal is to beat the casinos period. I wouldn't have any motivation to screw you or expose a winning system like you claim to have especially since it would be worth far more to me and you than for me to expose it. I have played some very interesting and very lucrative plays in the past that are no longer even available. I haven't talked about them. I could probably write AP 3 books(with help obviously) however it's not something I'm interested in.
     
  19. gizmotron

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    I'm not requesting any NDA. I expect my working method to be exposed. Your attitude is somewhat the same as the students there now. Want to see it for free? There's only this one way to convince you. Go over to BS and PM me. I'll let you in.
     
  20. RouletteGhost

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    I admit it. I'm confused

    Was that whole response directed to me?

    Lol
     
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