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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure I caught at least a scintilla of the admin "gloating" in his recent posts, wherein he pummeled redietz for hypocrisy.

    If not "gloating," then perhaps a bit of righteousness mixed in with a dash of the imperial.

    I love the use by admin of the royal prerogative: "we."
     
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  2. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    gloating and righteousness in the context of debating is the meat and potatoes of a hotly contested debate.

    gloating and righteousness tied to unilateral punishment where the recipient cannot respond is cowardly and oppressive

    gloating and righteousness within a climate where even if not tied to punishment, ...but proper responses to it would lead to certain punishment is equally cowardly and oppressive.

    the actions of most mods at wov ....whether its self righteousness, or gloating, or mocking by themselves is not a big deal if people are allowed to vigorously respond to said remarks......but its the actions that are tied to the words that are cowardly and oppressive......

    and that is not seen here.

    cowardly oppressive behavior is not seen here.

    Just lively debate......

    If the admin here asked for donations and then added,..if you dont give then I want to know why.

    He would be in a large debate at that point.....a debate he wouldnt be able to run from......because HE doesnt run.

    And the people responding would not worry about being punished.

    imagine that....a self righteous post by an admin leading to a debate, and responses that make the admin uncomfortable....and no punishment.

    can manboy handle that???? Why not??

    why shouldnt he be expected to....what harm could it do
     
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  3. MrV

    MrV Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying I have a problem with admin; I am saying your comment, i.e. "Note that the mod here doesnt gloat about suspending people as a psychological salve.....he doesnt tell people they are the weakest link.....," while perhaps technically correct, does not completely reflect reality.

    The admin is human, of course, not a machine, and when attacked understandably defends himself and when he perceives he's prevailing in an argument doesn't hesitate to rub it in.

    Understandable, I suppose: the guy is not a remote, unemotional robot.

    My concern: as with WoV, the actions of the admin will become a main topic for conversation on what should be a gambling-themed board.
     
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  4. Admin Team

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    Unfortunately, with certain type of people, making them lose face in public is the only way to get them to stop making false allegations and spreading outright lies. Telling a person they are wrong and then showing them how they are wrong stops most normal people, but others just won't let up and need to be publicly undressed, dissected, and discredited to get them to stop spreading lies. Those people generally don't care about the truth, they just have an agenda that they want to push and will keep pushing it until it's no longer worth it to them.

    This is a risk we are willing to take to stop the spread of false accusations and outright lies about us and our site. Not because we have an ego, but because we have a business interest to protect. Imagine we allowed people like RS to spread lies about our giveaway that suggests we're running a scam, who is going to want to join and participate on this site? Or Boz who says we are outright scammers with zero proof? Or AxelWolf who says we're a safe haven for scammers without explaining how because he can't because we aren't? Or redietz who acts "embarrassed" to be on our site just because we are sticking to our founding principles of not censoring and then suggests we are scammers (as always, without proof) and gambling experts playing dumb? If those complete fabrications, false allegations, and outright lies were left unanswered by us, and we let that broken bandwagon grow, then who in the right minds would want to join and participate on this site after reading those posts with no answer from us? In that context, lack of replies from us, or weak replies, would suggest the false accusations are true or have even a semblance of truth. That's why we unfortunately can't leave those unanswered and are forced to reply, and why some of our replies are more aggressive than others. Just like how owners of brick and mortar businesses reply to negative reviews containing lies on Yelp. They're protecting the credibility of their business from unfair accusations. This is no different.

    Of course, if members have actual evidence or can point out to something we are doing wrong, then they can create a thread about it and we can have an open discussion about it with zero aggression. That's because we are all for improving our site. We just can't allow those few who have an obvious agenda to ruin our site by spreading lies go unanswered.
     
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  5. GlenBaccarat1979

    GlenBaccarat1979 Active Member

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    Axel is a 110% 'douchebag' by his own admissions and claims of being an 'AP'er. He talks down to almost everyone and claims to know all about everything and blatantly and outright demeans and humiliates 99.5% of everybody on every board. He even claimed and publically accused me of creating phone calls by proxy numbers using elaborate sound effects including police sirens and sounds and of course casino sounds to bother the almighty king!!! LOL, fuck me....I must be back in 1970's South Florida in the Miami Vice days!!!!! The guy is a douchbag and a certifiable asshole.
     
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  6. LarryS

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    At wov, the single thread devoted to the topic of mods and their treatment of people didnt seem to retard the posting at other threads.

    a mod engaging in a debate making ones self accessible and not holding yourself as aloof, above reproach,..actually could reduce the volume of posts on a topic....as people cancome out and say what they want to say, no walking on eggshells,. You get to read what people think and get frank responses.

    For example...look at all the mileage some of us get from the manboy waving a tin cup and on top of that asking for a reason why you dont donate.

    Imagine if a bunch of people felt that it was ok to without punishment say "who are you to demand a reason, we dont owe you anything ..its offensive to even read that"
    And what if the manboy after seeing numerous posts going back and forth on that topic....responded....."here is the reasons why I approached it this way, you may not agree, but If I offended people I apologize"

    then it would have been fucking over. A mod addresses the issues after seeing numerous posts on the topic, and its over. What more can be said after that.

    The same here....the admin puts all his cards on the table and sometimes he sticks to his cards, and sometimes something comes out where he says.."good point, I will do x,y, and z to address it.

    If he suspends people for speaking their mind...his site will not get better.

    so I dont agree that the freedom to speak your mind with a reasonable admin/mod causes out of control massive never ending posts that overtake a site.

    If anything the massive pages for "discussion of the suspension list" was caused by the perpetual inability of the mods to communicate...and punish instead, hiding behind vague veils of "trolling" ""insult" and"we all know why". As the people were punished for speaking their mind, it was a never ending perpetual motion machine....people complain about neighbors being punished, and then they get punished, and then others complain about the new punishments, and then they get punished....and on and on it goes.
     
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  7. GlenBaccarat1979

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    You made your point..............now isn't it time to admit the 'dual role' of Admin and 'Well Known Member'??
     
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  8. Admin Team

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    If you are suggesting LarryS is our sock puppet because his profile shows "Well-Known Member" and he is supporting our behavior as Administrators of this site, then this would be about the 10th time we are falsely accused of having a sock puppet here. Nothing new. We should start making a list of all the members attributed to us.

    For the record, we don't have any sock puppets here, so no, we aren't LarryS.
     
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  9. GlenBaccarat1979

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    I kinda posted that with a smile and a chuckle, but there is none around here I guess. LOL. You must be fun to hang out with, if we ever bump into each other and decide to go get some PHO over on Spring Mountain Road, I will make sure to put a huge dose of Sriracha in yours when your not looking :)!
     
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  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Ha ha, listen who's talking, the biggest attention whore on betselection and WoV for that matter. Whilst on the subject of whores! Why did you marry one?

    Are you really that much of a GRUB?

    What a load of shit, the King of the Walter Mitty's.

    10M Tower_of_Australia.JPG
    New York's Biggest LOSER and psychologically damaged serial fantasist.
     
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  11. GlenBaccarat1979

    GlenBaccarat1979 Active Member

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    Sure, whatever you say, LOL, Admin, there is your biggest problem on your board. You and Axel, the two biggest douche bags, go lose some more money and then come back on and tell us how you can't beat the game. Love it! The song here is DEDICATED to those that roll and you know who that is as!!!!

     
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  12. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Sounds like GlenBacc' has encountered YET ANOTHER losing session, how much did ya hand over to the casino's this time, your $500 testing money, or the full $75000 wad? No worries man, the wife can help recoup by turning a few extra tricks ;-)

    Go and tuck the kids in, read them a story, their father will be grateful.
     
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  13. Petey Macdouche

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    Lol...yes it's nice to see the resident gay, degenerate loser Glenda back posting
     
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  14. GlenBaccarat1979

    GlenBaccarat1979 Active Member

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    Pete or self proclaimed 'Petey'? Macdouche? As in douche bag? Proud handle from such a straight up hetro city.....oops...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_culture_in_San_Francisco

    The city itself has, among its many nicknames, the nickname "gay capital of the world", and has been described as "the original 'gay-friendly city'". LGBT culture is also active within companies that are based in Silicon Valley, which is located within the San Francisco Bay Area.
    History · ‎Organizations and Community ... · ‎Demographics · ‎Neighborhoods
     
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  15. Petey Macdouche

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    Poor little gay Glen...I'd explain it to you but you're too stupid to understand....please do return to losing all your family's rent money
     
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  16. GlenBaccarat1979

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    LOL. Whatever you say, such a contributor.
     
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  17. soxfan

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    Time for the Guinness and cashew, hey hey.
     
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  18. GlenBaccarat1979

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    That is huge up in northern Manitoba from what I hear........................
     
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  19. freddy

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    FastXXXeddie is now in red. That didn't last long by Buzzard's standards....only one week and 13 posts.

    Poor Beached Whale....all hot and bothered when her "sweetie" came back. She'll just have to wait for his next return.
     
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  20. RS

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    For as "great" as this forum is (that was sarcasm, btw), the admin sure likes to talk down to the members here. Seems like this place is run by a damn 12 year old.....making Boz's signature band thing "Compulsive Liar", for instance. The whole "uncensored" thing is pure shit....you don't build a big forum that's completely uncensored.

    Who are all these bj hall of members, MIT team members, and all the rest of the crock of shit that's posted in the "founding members" section? All I see posting are people like LarryS, gizmotard, Sir something, turbofag, and several people who probably aren't even real (like Rona).


    This site has NO credibility. What credibility is there to tarnish?
     
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