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Baccarat The Good, the Ugly & Human Nature

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Junket King, Apr 1, 2022.

  1. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Ignore the troll JB, the low-life grub is so envious, so bitter, he will jump on not including a full stop at the end of a sentence, he is completely fucked like a desperado clutching a a broken straw.

    Even betting 5u at 2nd gear makes me anxious, cos' any loss has me betting more next time around, big losses or draw-downs start with small losses/draw-downs. You need to appreciate all of Adolph's cockfans action have been at the Kitchen Table Casino, which has a very relaxed dress code, winning fictitious units which aren't very tangible.

    What people have to realise, no sane person tests for 3 or 4 fucking years well over 20000 shoes unless they are stone cold broke, or gambling has left them permanently mentally deranged. One week would drive any normal person insane, if the results looked good, a normal person would take it to a casino, only somebody who has zero bankroll, a stone cold broke mentally unhinged loser could test 20k worth of shoes by eyeball/hand over 4 years. Unless of course you scripted the testing, in which case you would have it done inside a week. Cockfan only ever gambles at the Kitchen Table Casino and he hates it, hates the embarrassment others know this, so lashes out like an angry little child who's mates take the piss out of him for soiling his pants.

    When I see 10 single Bankers where I play for real money, I think to myself, thank fuck I haven't got HIV, you get me bro?

    Betting Banco after a Banco has as much merit as betting Punto after any Punto, not only aren't we going to play enough shoes for the law of large numbers to be on our side, the commish cancels the small Banco advantage, unless of course you are gambling at the Kitchen Table Casino, were all you can win everyday and all your dreams come true.

    You are actually risking your hard earned cash playing a broke-ass losers 4 year fantasy, a method that they themselves have never risked even one dollar in the real world, think on hey!!!

    The Kitchen Table Casino, is ideal for this, cockfan has been playing there for the at least the last 4 years, maybe longer, I think he now has VIP status.

    You made a comment a few weeks ago, about I should consider the stronger 1/256 rather than 1/128 option, it did make me reconsider, thanks for that. I've been playing, testing, exploring literally everything about this game for the last 20 years, flat betting, positive betting, there are suppose to be more Bankers than Players, Zumma testing, every progression available, Mongoose, Oscar, everything has it's failure point, however if you can somehow put an expectation restriction on those failure points, in a game of non-correlated independent trials, were not a single outcome can be predicted, then you might have something. I think my current run of 23 winning sessions versus 4 losing sessions carries some weight, but you can't take your eye off ball.

    Take last night for example, every bet I placed in Column 3 of the fourth shoe, I lost, but wasn't fazed, didn't like it, but not too worried, had that been column 6 or 7, then I would have felt a whole lot different, plus bet a lot differently, it's these small details which only come from having being there and having real world table experience. Any questions about 8-col ABR or running my string bet method just ask over at my board, cos this is more of a betting game than a bet selection game, ABR is merely a mechanism utilising statistical expectation in which to attempt to control the LIAR's.
     
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  3. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Why would you assume that?
     
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    Cause Genting is in Malaysia, but I think I made a wrong assumption... :)
     
  5. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    Yesterdays session at the casino, way too much drama to cover.

    First 4 shoes, everything ticking along fine, from a goal target of 20 x 2nd gear bets, I had 8 to go, then the mandatory problematic shoe shows it's head Shoe #5

    Column 3 ran LLLL, then came the disaster, column 5 stepped to to top gear bets, pretty pointless staying in 2nd gear after 4LIAR, bet 2u on the wrong fucking side and LOST the bet, that one mistake was crushing, as the next bet now has to be higher, which also lost, won the next bet, which still left me -1u, Column 6; W2u all good. Didn't recoup any of the initial LLLL

    Still in top gear, Shoe #6, LWLL LW LL LLLWW as the bets were getting so big, I started hedging the "super egalite side bet" at £25 a pop (fine, I'll recoup later), too bad the vast majority of shoes this arvo didn't have many Ties as usual. Aiming to clear these top gear bets and focus on the 2nd gear bets afterwards.

    Shoe #7, bets are still pretty wild, LLWL LLW WL W (I fucking need first placed bets early wins, and it just wasn't happening)

    Shoe #8 (top gear) 3rd column L1, L2, L4, L6, L8, kinda in big trouble now, if I say so myself, I'm all in and running out of BR, they won't hold the shoe for me to go to the cage. 4th Column, W6, W4, L4 (all the while hedging the "super-egalite"). Finally I catch the big one, tie on ZERO paying 160/1 for my £5 bet, returning a nice 8u. People play these all the time, I don't, this was my first capture of the zero Tie at 160/1. Next bet W4, Column #5, W2 W1

    At some stage I did manage to get to the cage and withdraw another 20 top gear units, which weren't brought into play.


    Shoe #9 This was THE turning point!!! A small battle had turned out to all out WAR. Column #3, L1 L2 L4 L6 W8, fucking streaks in the wrong places!!! Column #4, L6, L8 the casino had my balls in a vice, placed a 10u bet on the Player, the biggest I've bet in this joint for a few years, I'm given 4 sides and no-fucking sides, a 9 and a friggin 2 for a total of 1, it's all over if this goes down, I asked the dealer to flip the Banker cards, scared to look, a picture and a 2, I'm still alive, barely, it is all over if my card is a face card. One card to me, one to the Banker all face down.

    Let's see what I'm up again? Unbelievable Banker pulls a fucking six for a total of 8, few swear words. Game over? I don't think I could even see the pips properly on the players 3rd card, I half squeezed it and literally threw it at the dealer, it was a fucking 8, for a 20u turnaround, instead of being a further 10u in the hole, I recouped 10u. More swearing out of relief. Truly unbelievable, Basi Gow.

    Rest of the shoe ran, L4 W6, next L1, next L1, L2 W3, ending L1 L2

    Shoe 10, W1, W1, (tie wins not allowing my to reduce my next bet size level) L1, L2 W3 L2 W3 L1 W2

    And on it dragged, Shoe 12, L1, L2 L4, W6, W2, W1 I had one single top level unit to go, so converted that to 2nd level betting and went on the attack, much of a muchness. I had a target of an unreasonable 42 x 2nd level bets for profit, base units strings a complete mess, worry about them later. The 42 was reduced to 24, then due to lack of players, I wasn't going to do any of that flat bet DBL shit, called one of those rough days at the office. I kept back 80 base units, so the cas' think I lost 100 units, when reality I only lost 20.

    Monday will be interesting, as I'm going for it, if you get my drift.


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  6. Nathan Detroit

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    Soxfan, HE plays the way he sees fit as one might call it . Pure and simple for that are no instructions .
     
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    In short JK is sharp in calculating the " NOW " and that that is what counts .
     
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  8. JacobBlaze

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    Junky,

    thanks for the entertaining post...

    It sucks when they don't hold a shoe for you, was it the staff or the fellow players??? I've had this issue before in Vegas Venetian ... And woulda won of course (63 unit Star version, accidentally didn't bring enough cash for the final 17 unit bet)

    You really need to find a NEW place to play... Your battleling a koinflip game, you need to put as many things in your favor as possible and it seems your Casino environment is a BIG,BIG negative.

    Save up some kitchen units and come to the land of brown Orientals, I'll be your personal casino tour guide :), in a non Homosapien way.. Leave the Racoon at home though ...

    How is this latest 8 shoe results string for your agrro labby ?

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/flat-betting-banker-selectively-all-shoe.24033/



    Yoyoyo DuckestaSick
     
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  9. Junket King

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    I learnt many years ago down-under Casinos won't hold a game up while you go the cage, unless you are betting super high and a big loser. So I didn't actually ask them to hold the shoe. While I loaded up a bit later on, it was during a shuffle, not that it was used.

    Unfinished business where I'm playing, which is why I play there, you get use to your environment!! Visited another newly opened casino just up the road last week to look around, first thing that put me off, they had Roulette score cards on the Baccarat table, tacky. Also a bit too sterile, not a single player was writing anything down, all losing by playing off the score board dispay!!!!

    Malaysia sounds fun, should have visited a few years ago, bit pessimistic if I'll ever make it East again, reckon it would be neat to show you one on one how exactly I'm playing. There was a friend of a friend down-under, who was negative with his casino balance sheet, I let him mirror everything I did, I made him a ton of money, 5 figures, he ended up positive for his casino action when I left. Unfortunately he didn't pay enough attention "to why and how" and just mirrored everything I did, bet amount the lot. So when I left the inevitable happened, he gave it all back, wrong aptitude.

    Briefly as I have to dash, yesterday's session. It's becoming a bit of a given that I'm going to encounter a rough shoe somewhere in my session.

    Murphy's Law!!!! Yesterday it was the fucking FIRST SHOE, God Damn, WLLL W<Tie) LL (had to back off at this stage) W L W all top gear bets.
    I'm getting into the bad habit of after a few losses, running a single string, this now then operates a a normal Labby, which is insidious.

    I've gone from a goal of 8 units to negative 12. Some "too much money" fool regular was talking too much time betting the "super pay egalite", hence every shoe was taking close on 2 fucking hours, he must have dropped close on £8000, as most of the shoes didn't have many ties. This is the kind of player I couldn't give a fuck about, but he's mega when it comes to cash.

    The rest of the shoes were basically plain sailing, due to the first "poorly shuffled???" shoe, which was overtly P dominated, lots of P streaks (too many small cards in front of the shoe). I was chasing my ass all night. Unfortunately due to a pressing engagement on Tuesday, I had to leave, otherwise I would have recouped, as it was I had to call it a night with a loss of 10 "base units". No worries, my 200 "base unit win" will be achieved, haha.

    I dropped 8-Col AM4 due to "too many" LLLW, or LLW, events to control the lower value strings, which became too frustrating, instead reverted to;

    As somebody succinctly mention on my board, instead of betting for something not to happen, why not bet for something that must happen!!!!

    For example, for a series of three hands, something must repeat. So that is what I did, top three lines of an 8 column template, two bets maximum. Slowly I also did the same with the bottom three lines of the same template, so long as those bets didn't get in the way of my main ABR trigger bets. This kept my lower base units well under control. Using columns of 8 broke up any risk of getting done by repeating 1-2's...

    So two losing sessions on the bounce, total less than two "top gear bets", I can accept that, but it's not exactly heading in the direction I wanna be going. just makes me more determined for the next time, the harder they make me work, my goal compensates for it. LOL.
     
  10. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    This must rank as one of my easiest sessions for a long time, even managed to leave the cas' while it was still day light haha

    In two minds whether to go or not, that last two small losses were bugging me, so made the effort, if ya want it, you have to go and get it. While I'm itching to take them for a 200 "base unit" profit, not today, lack of sleep, early morning business to attend to, so not up for doing that today.

    Instead my goal is 100 "base units", plus a recoup of the 30 negative "base units" lost in my prior two sessions and maybe a little on top for the buggeration factor!!!

    What I've rather pleased about, is the strike rate, not sure what it was while typing this, but it felt remarkable, I'll work it when I get to the shoes.

    Goal 30 x 2nd gear chips.

    First shoe, playing solo so it's a separate stack of 10 chips betting DBL, don't recall how that concluded, but it was alright, positive by a few chips.

    Prime bets win loss ratio. L W(tie), LWW WLL W (goal reduced from 30 to 24 chips, pulling 6 from a single shoe is good for ABR)

    A bit of Fibonacci column 6, L1 L2, L3, L5, W8, L3 W5!!!!

    Overall W vs L (excluding DBL, as this is a separate stack of chips, I don't record these bets)
    WLWLWWWWWLLWLLWWWWLLLLWLWLLLLWWLWL

    Second shoe, not longer playing solo, park DBL.

    Heavy "super egalite" player turns up, puts £10 on zero Tie for a return of £1800, he did well overall betting the Super Egalite Ties.

    Prime ABR bets; L2 L3 L6 W9, W3 L2 W3. Top & bottom 3 rows something must repeat, holding it's own, occasionally hitting 2L, but always recouped using Fibo.

    Overall; LLLLL W(13u Fibo regress), WLLWLWWLWLWLW LLLLLL WLWLLWWWWWLLW that series of 6 losses in a row was due to a P12 streak including Ties, after 6 players due to playing solo, I had already taken 3x AS bets and lost them all, so had nowhere to go, I just flat bet the Banker to keep the cards coming, a real pain in the arse, then my trigger had me betting Player and the streak ended, therefore 6LIAR, not much I could do about it when your playing by yourself. In hindsight I should have switched back to DBL, but there ya go.

    Third shoe; everybody had buggered off, so back to playing solo again, DBL. The shoe produced an early Banker 9 streak, which had no impact with ABR as it occupied column 2 mainly, Except I'm by my-self, so I have the button. When it gets to 6 Bankers I bet Player and Tie yet want the Banker to win, kinda like a free insurance bet. These small lost units can be recovered later. Banker goes to 9 I receive a free £100 bonus, nice one. Prime ABR bets ran; WW LLW(Tie)WW LWW

    Excluding the profitable DBL bets, the entire W vs L ratio ran; WWWWWLWLLLLWWWWWLWLWWWWWWWWW (thank you very much).

    This brings my original 30 chip target down to 11. "Base unit Labby" is at 35u, so negative 15u, no worries, tidy that up once the 2nd gears have been cleared.

    Fourth Shoe; ABR WWW W

    Entire W v L ratio, WWWWLLLWWWWWWWWLLWLLLWLWWWLLLLWWLLLLLLLLWW (got a bit sticky at the end as Column 7 was a repeat of the first column, I dropped 17 "base" at the end, I think prior to that I was up 100 "base units" for the session and cruising, I was going to leave, then realised, I still wanted a separate recoup of the two prior session as well as the 100 base.

    Bit of a struggle due to the end of that above shoe, only managed to reduce my target of 11 by 1 chip, now standing at 10, and my base Labby strings by 2, so I still made, albeit small.

    Fifth Shoe; ABR LLWW(TIE)L WWW W (goal accomplished kind of, I had 2u outstanding, so I converted them to "base units" to get away from 2nd gear betting.
    Overall WWLLWLLWLWWLLLWWLWWWWWLWWWWLWLWWLLWLLWWW

    Coloured up prepared to leave, hang on, wait a minute, I'm up over 120u, but that wasn't my goal, it had been a decent, easy session. "let's go for what I came for", it's all "base unit betting, the more I take today, will mean an easier ride in the future. ONE MORE SHOE.

    Sixth Shoe; WWW LLLW LLWWLL LLLL (oops, did have to change gear here, is Murphy about to screw my ass, have confidence, have belief, relax I have the BR and the time if needed) WWW WWLWLW LWLLWW WWWLW LW

    Now I'm done, just over 5.5 hours which flew by, target of 100 base achieve, plus last two losing sessions recovered and a little on top. for a 148u profit, my buyin was a plaque (biscuit in my pocket), plus I had chips from my last session, they probably think I made just over 100%, which I didn't, but don't care about their figures only mine.

    The thing about today's session were the long streaks, they didn't seem to cause me any issues, I'm sitting there thinking to myself, they probably know "long streaks" cause me issues, let's do a crap shuffle, sometimes your mind works like that, but where they started wasn't a problem at all. The last shoe started with a P7 streak, I'm thinking I'm going to clean up with this, while I made money 19 "base units" to be precise, it was only a little.
     
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    Sometimes the variance tilts hugely in your favor, but you know that. Enjoy it while it's happening cuz it doesn't last
     
  12. Junket King

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    Says who? LOL

    What a glorious day, today not the day for gunning for 200 units, rather 100 will suffice, but the casino had others plans, fuck do I feel blessed!

    Driving to the cas' telling myself to keep my complacency in check. Rock up just before 1pm, a shoe is already in motion, unfortunately it is at hand 32, which is no use to me, so I sit it out. The two dudes playing got cleaned out at around hand 60 and left the table, this casino won't shuffle up, the shoe has to be completed, "ask the manager" the dealer says, "no thanks", I don't want anything, won't ask for anything cos' I know what the answer will be, so won't give him the satisfaction.

    Yesterday I buyin for 200 base units and play for 6 or 7 hours and get £2 in comps, they can stick it.

    So it's DBL to end the shoe, which I made 3 base units from, good start!!!

    Buyin with my last plaque (biscuit) which I've had for over a week, 200 base units, goal target 20 x 2nd gear bets..

    First shoe; playing solo for approx the first 10 hands, so it's DBL and my triggers, then another player shows up.

    Hands 9 and 10 have me betting Player, both results are Banco for a loss of 7 chips with the button in front of me , I normally swerve further bets, this time switched to DBL flat betting the Banker side. 5WIAR, I'm now at 7 banks, there is a £50 bonus if it goes to 8, so I put £5 on the TIE and £10 on the Player, it is like a free bet, which lost, more of less repeat the same for the next two hand, again losing both bets. When I do this I want the Banker to win, it's like an insurance bet. I'm now sitting at 11 banks, with a Banker bonus at a low £2400 if it goes to 12.

    Load up £90 to max out out the "Super Pay Egalite Tie" bets, here is where I fucked up, due to the low bonus which was at approx £4.5k earlier this week, I only put £200 on the Player, I should have loaded it up more, like £400 or £500, but I didn't want to eat in to the potential profit if it hits 12 banks, hence I only put down £200, wrong move.

    Cards are pulled, I get given the Player cards, I've got £200 on the Punto but want the Bank to win. Bank has crap, I turn over an Natural 8. Ah well, so I win the £200 and am given £500 for the 11 banks. Within 20 hands of the first shoe, first shoe I've hit my goal, go home? No chance haha.

    Now let's go for that 200u win without any top gear betting!!!

    The shoe overall ran; WLLWLLWWWLWLWWLLLWLWLLWWWWWWLWLWW

    Here's the shoe with the pay table on the RHS

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    As a side note, Gentings make their money at the Baccarat table due to two factors poor play and greed. They do not make their money from the Bank commission, because the Fortune 8 jackpot increments 25p from every Banker decision on an individual casino basis, plus the payout table for less than 12 banks does not reduce the Jackpot amount. So they give me £500 yet the jackpot remains at £2400, as crazy as that seems.

    Lot of arsing around with updating my 2nd gear strings, so just started afresh (who is going to go home inside 45 mins).

    Shoe two; WW WWW LLLLWLL <ABR kicks in here), WWWW WL WLWW LW WWW W

    Shoe three; WLL W LW WLWLL WLLLWWW LWWLL LWWWWW LWLLWL

    Shoe four; WW LLLL LWWLL WWWWW LLLWLW LWWW WLLLLWW W 6x 2nd gear chips to go

    Shoe five; WLWLL WLW WLLWW WLWL WWWL LLWLWLL WW bingo, job complete, again out the door sun is still shining after approx 6 hours.

    I got chatting to the young Chinese dude, who bet £3k per hand against an entire P7 streak, he was playing at the Empire in London the night before, he showed me his chip stack which was £25k, fuck me, anyway he gave at least £8k of that to Gentings. Nice enough guy, I felt for him, damn with that kind of money I feel like I could win forever, however with these guys five hundred say 6 days per week, isn't enough, despite the economic climate. Maybe I'll offer to teach him, give him access to my board for and even coach him live at the table for £10k haha.

    When I bet say 5 or more 2nd gear units, the regulars if they are betting opposite me are now beginning to remove their bets from the table, I can't mask or hide it, dealers see it, managers have to confirm pays outs at the desk. Away from the table the Chinese regulars are passing comment, "you always win", especially when I hit some of those long Wiar's, they start laughing and saying fuck knows what.

    What they fail to see, is the losing bets before I am betting 5 or more units. Anyway no need to aim for the 200u win, it was partly gifted to me, while the jackpot 12 Bankers would have been nice, I'm happy with the 220 base unit profit.
     
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    It is not a good idea to play in crowded tables cos everybody will just copy your bets since they know you usually win more often than they do.
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

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    This is a fallacy . Do not worry about what others do . Pay no attention to them .
     

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    Just remember when folks are copying your bets, it means you are WINNING! I hope they copy me every shoe.
     
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    Immature players and EGO at the same table . What a combo.
     
  17. Junket King

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    Not on my agenda to play today, but given a disappointing Saturday night :-( decided to go the cas' to try and put some gloss on things.

    Buyin 120u.

    Getting a bit more comfortable playing DBL solo, which I had to for the first shoe and what a beut' it was.

    B
    P
    BBBBBBBB <nice free £50 bonus for 8 banks)
    P
    BB
    P
    BBB
    P
    B
    P
    B
    PP
    BBB
    P
    BBBBBBB
    PPPP
    B
    P
    BBBB
    P
    B
    P
    BB
    P
    BB
    PP
    BB
    P
    BBB
    P
    BB
    P

    Besides the mandatory DBL bets whiched concluded +3u, my triggers ran;

    (ABR 2nd gear bets in bold)

    LWW WLL LWWWWL WLLLWLL WLWWWW WWLW LLWLLL LLW

    The 26x target 2nd gear bets were down to 18, great start.

    Then things got bogged down a bit, no longer playing solo, parked flat betting DBL.

    Shoe 2, LWLWLW LLW LLW(tie) LLLWL LWWWLWL WLW WWWLL LLLW WWWLL LLW

    18 target down to 16, base Labby strings getting a bit messy.

    Shoe 3; WLWLW WLL WWLWL LWLLLLL WLLLWWW(double Tie)LL WWWW W

    Lost an over-sized bet due to impatience to be honest, so switched to "top gear" for the next shoe, > 1-1-1-1-1

    Shoe 4; LWW LLLW WWW LW WLWWW LLWLL LLLWL WLLW W, top gear string of 5x 1's now at 3x 1's

    Shoe 5; LLLW W(tie)WW LLLWL WW (top gear one remaining unit to be won, converted that to 2nd gear, otherwise it would operate like a Marty, fuck that)W LWWL LLLLLL (oops column 6 is a repeat of Col 1) WWWLW W

    2nd gear target was down to 11 then back up to 17, treading a bit of water here, not a easy session.

    Then things picked up a bit;

    Shoe 6; LLW WLL WWWLW LLWWW WLWLW LLLW WLLLWW LW
    the results in bold are what matters, others bets I can clean up later.

    Feeling sluggish, my 2nd gear target going into shoe 7 was 14 and my base Labby strings were hovering 53, 46, now at 34 I do need to attack these and get them reduced.

    Shoe 7; WLL WWWW WWWW LWWL WW WWLW didn't complete the shoe, I basically had had enough, betting too tight to protect, in all honesty had been a challenging afternoon despite the great start.

    The 2nd gear strings had 9 chips to go, the base unit strings stood at 23, but I didn't care about them as I was now monitoring my chip stack.

    While I didn't reach what I went for, a nice exact 100 base unit profit was gratefully achieved. I don't know if it was my imagination but I felt too many managers eyes on me during the session, looking at my chip stack, probably in part due to yesterdays performance no doubt. Also I'm pretty sure I had at least a pound or two in points yesterday, when I checked my balance today it was zero. Not bothered about that, but beginning to wonder if they are trying to send me a subtle message? haha.

    No worries, I'm pretty close to getting where I want to be, hopefully it is reached this time next week, then I'll leave them alone for a just a little while and go the a new casino up the road. It can be fun playing at a new joint, I always get the impression that dealers think here is another mug that thinks he can beat a non-predictable game of chance with all this writing things down!! We'll see???

    Currently sitting at for this year 25 winning sessions and 6 losing sessions for an overall profit of just under 1800 base units, it's been a bit of a learning curve as sessions have progressed, transforming from basically making a wage earlier on, then realising to make money I needed to introduce 2nd level gear changes, from rusty to sharp.
     
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  18. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    '"Currently sitting at for this year 25 winning sessions and 6 losing sessions for an overall profit of just under 1800 base units""

    Congratz and thanks for the posts, you really go to Battle with the casinoVerse.

    Hope your Goal is achieved soon and you go to a more friendlier environment where you don't have to Battle so many other things besides the KoinFlipz.

    Sorry for the dumb question but If only the Bolded results "matter" in your w/l strings and the other bets are not DBL bets to keep the shoe moving why do you play those bets if you aren't being forced to bet to move the shoe along. Here if you are playing solo and want to keep the shoe moving they let you "pingpong" bet both sides and only lose the comish or half price bank etc
     
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  19. Junket King

    Junket King Well-Known Member Compulsive Liar

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    If I only played the bold bets I wouldn't be placing a bet until at least hand 16, this is when I make a move with ABR, I could be done by hand 24 or 32, it makes for a boring game. Also this is not a venue with lots of tables to chose from unlike the busy massive casinos down-under.

    The "other optional" lower value bets are cake icing., However I use to play the other optional bets and ABR at the same chip value, so the other bets can off-set ABR losing bets, or recoup lost tie wagers (I lose more Tie bets than I win) or when the button comes around and I fancy going for a Banker streak bonus, or even clawing back B tax. Now that ABR bets are at a higher chip value one doesn't really off-set the other.

    I've played around with a few optional bet selections, such as FLD down a column of 7 and then columns of 8 using multiple progressions, results disappointing due to shuffle procedure, or DBL, ditched both.

    Also 7-Col Anti-middle 3 and 8 Col AM4, again you lose too many bets when it fails. 4 and 5 respectively. What I'm doing at the mo' has me losing 2 bets max when it fails. I've encountered 2 losing bets repeat three times for 6LIAR (rare) at the top of columns of 8, but these can be off-set by betting the bottom of columns as well, or only taking the bottom of columns if the top has failed, or simply wait for 2LIAR then take the bet. All depends on the state of my Labby strings, if they are a mess I'll take top & bottom, I usually take them both, cos' I'm greedy in that respect LOL. If my head is already half way out the door I'll be more selective.

    I have to think ahead, "will I be able to take the optional bet option, two bets without it clashing with a pending ABR bet"? In which case I have to make a judgement call on the fly, is ABR vertical or horizontal!

    I also look for crazy symmetry which comes up now and again, yesterday the shoe was going 5P, 3B, 5P, 3B, no frigging way that pattern will continue period, so a few low value chips betting against it's continuance can be fun while the rest of the table are betting for it. Ditto a repeating 3 streak x 4 or 5. Yesterday had a shoe where the Player streaked to five about 5 times and the Banker 3 times, no three four or six streaks, odd-ball streak distribution even for a single shoe. The table bets one-way, I bet against the continuance of streaks stopping at five, I win they lose, some can play this game for a life-time and still be pretty clueless..

    During yesterdays session, my lower value strings were a mess over 40+ base units to be cleared, I needed to get them down, the reason they get so messy is because I am reluctant to increase my bet amount for the optional bets, nearly end of shoe, I've got a 6u bet out, was thinking of hedging the tie for a single chip for a 9-1 return, I'm thinking should I, nar fuck it? I don't usually hedge the tie unless I am betting a minimum of 8 base units, so I didn't, yep you guessed it a fucking tie which would have cleared 9 units from my strings, ah well I've missed it now, leave the bet out, another fucking Tie, SHIT, FFS, that would have cleared 18u from my strings and brought them right down, it pissed me off big big time, end of shoe no more hands LOL.

    Any specific precise game play details, or you don't understand ABR 100%, you know where to ask, I do want selective others to win, I've been playing this way for quiet a few years now and feel I've ironed out the kinks. What I would like to do but don't have the time, is explore taking things from the 256/1 to an unbeatable 512/1 level, if you get my drift. ;-)

    I've said it before, ABR while it appears to be producing more wins than losses (I don't like doing homework / producing stats unless I have to), it is designed to produce manageable LIAR more than anything else, the rest is taken care of via any negative progression you care to deploy.
     
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  20. oopsididitagain

    oopsididitagain Active Member

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    Oh my, that's about $1,600 Canadian dollar! Ha.
     

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