Roulette Scams WARNING: The owner of the Top Roulette Forums, Steven George Hourmouzis, is a Convicted Scammer

This has always been my point in regards to if its right or wrong. Can I walk in, inform the dealer, pit what my plans for the day are? (lol) If the answer is HELL NO, that should answer everything.

Ken

 

Good evening Mr TurboGenius,

Of course you cannot use it. It's legal yes , allowed no. My apologies for the late reply.

Best regards,
Lucas

 

Thanks.

 

Alabahlah, you're just re-posting garbage I've already addressed. It's not my fault you cant read a stock chart.

I don’t think you followed the link you just posted because it does't look good for you. Your system selling on my forums started at [Admin Edit (Nov 3, 2016): Removed URL to members' own site which violated our rules.] and among other strange claims, you said:

You got it backwards but I don’t have time to explain why. I allowed you to sell your system but had to ban you when your purchasers claimed it was a scam. No, you didn't win the poll to stay on my forum. You created fake usernames to get more votes. Victor wasnt honoring your skill (as you put it) by allowing you to post at his new forum. He just needed to fill a new forum with posts.

You are forgetting I defended you while others attacked you. I gave you plenty of time and chances to prove your claims but again I was getting complaints from your buyers. Almost everyone wanted you banned.

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Here's an from someone you tried to sell to:

Again remember I started out defending you, and giving you plenty of opportunities to prove you were honest. So why do you direct frustrations at me? See below:

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And after that message, people you sold to complained to me.

Another member sums you up here: [Admin Edit (Nov 3, 2016): Removed URL to members' own site which violated our rules.]

You asked about my qualifications to develop a roulette computer. Start here:

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I studied Applied Physics at RMIT, to develop energy technology. But I quit because the course moved too slowly and was no different to reading books. I learned much quicker in my own time. I worked with energy development companies, and eventually the US Department of Energy. But I quit because of red tape nonsense. Ive explained many times what I do, but I dont develop my computers alone. I have hired many contractors including physicists, mathmeticians, programmers and electronics technicians. But I designed the majority of algorithms myself. Ive been developing technology and systems to beat roulette for about 20 years, literally almost every day. But who cares. Anyone serious can test my computers for free and judge for themselves.

What are your qualifications with roulette computers? No experience at all. In fact based on your various claims about roulette, I'm not even sure you've ever played it. You criticize legitimate advantage play methods and tell everyone your $200 system beats RNG and is the holy grail. There's lots more I could say about you but I don’t want to waste time. Again you were banned because your buyers were complaining.

No, Ive never been a crane driver. The claim came from what someone said in one of my public demos. He got me confused with a famous gambler in Australia who made millions, called the "king of Geelong". He was once a crane driver. I explained I had no relation to him, but mark howe made his own twisted version. Do you just believe everything?

As I said before, you can spread whatever nonsense about me and my technology. But the truth is simple to find. Please let people test my computers for free and find out themselves. Instead of following me everywhere attacking me, go make your millions beating rng.

Ken and Turbo, again we can just agree to disagree. You can NEVER tell a casino you are a professional player, no matter how you win. Consistent winning isn't "forbidden", but you will be banned if detected. So I guess only losing players are permitted. Fair?

IHeartRoulette, in case you actually are just a misled person who believed the first rubbish they read (rather than someone like "Mark Howe"), I have an offer for you.

I will send you my full roulette system, and my $80,000 Hybrid Roulette Computer for free. And you can test them both for one week each. I'll email you the software, which is well protected so I'm not concerned about piracy

But I have some simple conditions, which are:

1. You test on either a Huxley mk7 or Cammegh traditional wheel, which are by far the most common wheels today
2. You get predictions mostly between 7-15 seconds before the ball falls
3. The rotor speed is mostly between 2-5 seconds per revolution
4. You follow my instructions and get proper support
5. All testing is well documented, so you aren't able to lie (there's an easy solution for this - all results are automatically uploaded to the Hybrid server)
6. You report back here, publish results yourself, and publicly apologize if your results indicate clear edge

The Hybrid is capable of beating these wheels in a broader range of conditions, but let's keep it simple and simulate common conditions. Also I have one other condition but it's simple and wont cost you anything.

I'll start by sending you the Hybrid roulette computer for one week. Then giving you access to my roulette system software.

I can do this because there's no risk to me. It's the same reason I provide a free roulette computer for people to test at [Admin Edit (Nov 3, 2016): Removed URL to members' own site which violated our rules.] (screenshot below):

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And let me remind everyone that anyone can test my technology for free, or see a personal demonstration on any wheel. But for something like sending you the Hybrid to test for free, you'd need to be a serious player. In this case, I'll make the exception with IHeartRoulette.

 

I've said it before. Everyone knows (dealers and pit bosses) that I use systems when I play.
I've also stated that I walk out in profit (no, not 1 million $ - that's silly isn't it ? I have a target and when I reach it - I leave.)
Not once has there ever been an issue with this.
I DO get pressured to use the casino card (they are always asking me to get one but I know better).
So they have no actual data on how much I've walked out with in total.
The casinos love system players because they know that it's "foolish" and they aren't going to win long term.
They could care less if you use a system and win - as long as you aren't being greedy, they simply assume
that 'next time' you'll give it back.
It's apples and oranges here. Using a system and winning brings no heat.
Using a device that is clearly against the rules will certainly get you banned if exposed.
I've never had a single issue letting them know that I'm playing "my silly system".
I'm also a consistent winner - no heat - aside from them pushing the card on me in order to track
what I win and lose. Since they don't know that, never had a problem.

 

Here you go Mike, I added you to the list of "competitors" who think attacking me under fake names is ok: http://www.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com/michael-emilio-rodriguez/

Let me know if remove your rubbish, then I'll have no need to even mention you.

 

Steve the scammer jailbird, you being jailed for cheating masses and you are trying to discredit others with your crew. I was voted to stay at rf.cc despite all your dirty tricks. Whoever spoke against you or your jail stories were attacked personally. A featured jailbird scammer, have some shame. You will get no sucker for your "cheating devices".

 

You remind me of Denzie a little.....nothing but anger, hate and an urge to argue.

Ken

 

This is the published scam of your beloved admin: http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/499241/Spammer+Jailed+for+Stock+Scam.htm

 

Who cares ?

 

Pot calling the kettle black. You are also a scammer, my definition of a scammer is anybody who sells gambling system. Everywhere you go, you are enticing people to "earn something" visit your free lefora site to reel them in.

Not a fan of Steve by any stretch, I don't believe in roulette computers, but that stock scam was pretty smart, pity he got caught. I know a lot of people who would have done it, including myself. But selling gambling systems, progressions, get outta here

 

Nevada Revised Statute 465.075 Use or possession of device, software or hardware to obtain advantage at playing game prohibited. It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered, or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment.

It's a felony. Up to 7 years jail time.

 

lol. Nice.
Wait, it's ok to use though - you just can't get caught.
'or' - there are plenty of other places where you can use one right ?
I don't get the whole computer thing - It's been around forever since I started at GG and continues on.....
Sure, technology can do lots - but why use it for purposes that cheat ?
Next there will be "implants" - a tiny chip you implant under your scalp, some modified glasses that signal
the chip and do the calculations and then zap your brain telling you where to bet.
Sure it will work, but just look for the guy with all the chips stacked in-front of him with his hair smoking lol.
There's a easier way - it's called math. You MIGHT need a pencil, but that's ok - the casino hasn't
banned pencils yet.

 

Doesn't matter they are concealed and it is a risk you take, I'm pretty sure in the UK, NZ and AU if you got caught, there would be nothing they could do other than to ban you, as you are not interfering with the outcome of the game. I don't subscribe to Steve's roulette devices, I said above his Stock market scam, "buy low, send out 7 million emails, price goes up, sell" was pretty smart, it is unfortunate he got caught and did 3 months in the big house. Fuck they are doing the same shit on trading floors everyday.

 

Or much worse.......
But you don't hear about those kinds of crimes often because they are above the law.
The common person does the same thing and you're going to do time.
Nonsense how the system works.

 

LIBOR scandal, Fanny May, to name only two.

 

Lol!!
Another sucker from Jailbird's brigade.
Why did you join this forum now? To defend your boss? You bastards of a scammer.

 

Or is it scammer jailbird himself?

 

Shouldn't that be "u bastard scamer guy, yooouuuuuu"?

I used to be on that joke of a lefora forum of yours. You're well known for pimping your yourself on many forums, go find a job pulling a donkey or something rather than your "earnsumit" crap, "Uuuuuu bastard scammer guy".

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

This is getting ridiculous. So much anger in this world. Now does anyone can proof he bought one of Mr Steve his devices and it failed ? Or are we going to continue throwing meaningless durt ?

Mr Alhalaba, why are you attacking here ? You've been proven a real scammer. If I was you I would start fresh with a new identity. Find new victims. You are so full of

Mr TurboGenius, in this area if you win regularly you will be denied entrance too. Or banned as they name it. I think it's a moral issue. Let's take the example of the bank. If one told me : if you can walk into that bank and take , steal , cheat , rob it successfully you can keep it but never can come back in there again. I'll bet you 100k I'll try it . And most likely I will walk out there with a smile.

Best regards,
Lucas