Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

No one is going to mention this rule having been added 3 weeks ago on 6/09/16??? If I am not mistaken this rule was added because AxelWolf and a few other members quoted things I said here...things that made my case and showed Wizard to be unfair. He couldn't have that so....BOOM....a new rule.

These adding and changing rules specific to me or about me have occurred numerous times in the 5 months of my particular situation.

Here are a couple quotes from Wizard himself concerning rule changes or additions specific to me and my situation.

From the post announcing my nuking.... "Normally we don't consider what goes on at other forums in our suspensions here, however.....".

And this quote from the very first PM I received from Wizard. "Although no rules have been broken, we mods don't like it when......".

This is the most frustrating part of this whole ordeal to me. I was first silenced by an unfair truce, limiting what I could say and then suspended and finally nuked, when in fact....I broke no rules.....well no current rules at that time. But each step of the way and including the aftermath or cover-up, new rules have been added because there were no existing rules that I broke. I played fair....by the rules.....so they were changed.

Michael Shackleford....be better than this!

 

Why do you people stay so infatuated with WoV. All it's ever been is a home for queers, transgender freaks, sensitive math-crazed girly-men, atheists and other weirdos who enjoy watching normal people get suspended, banned, and complain when they come back. On top of that it's a pimp-site for online gambling owned by foreigners who now completely control Shack.

The entire site is an embarrassment.

 

What is kind of funny is that the first person I heard make a very similar statement to this was Norm Wattenberger (Qfit), shortly after the sale of the site to LCB. Norm was stating (on his own site) why he would not participate at WoV.

Oddly enough, Norm did posted at WoV for the purpose of having me banned. And even odder is that Mike refers to Norm as "his good friend who he admires".

 

So what. I was nuked with no reason given. Others were nuked using the convenient characterization of "troll". Your case is not unique.
Even RonC sees uneven punishment for liberals vs conservatives.
BLuechow was suspended for asking about you. Blackhole was given 3 days and then it was changed to 30 days for being on the wrong side of the AP's. Someone else was tossed for calling clinton a lesbian. That is only an insult if someone feels lesbians are inferior. BB1 was tossed for defending his neighbors. B9 was thrown off for just engaging in a back and forth with members on a topic that annoyed someone. He just happened to have strong cogent arguments on the wrong side of the issues.
Another member was tossed for ALLEGEDLY not paying off a bet. There was never a rule for that. I cried foul about that one. That happened 2 years before your issue occured.
So the manboy made up a rule post suspension. Is that shocking based on the Behavior I outlinded above?? People like you allowed him to behave that way against others. Indifference set up the situation where the manboy was empowered to screw you based on the zero pushback and lack of consequences for his previous actions.

Yeah I know.....its all about you you you. But you will have to get in line. Plenty of others were mistreated. and they deserve acknowledgement as well.
For me its about right and wrong. Not about me me me and MYMYMY suspension.
how self serving would it be fore me to continually have tunnel vision and just concentrate on my suspension.

I have said alot of harsh but true things about the manboy and the site....so I would be a fool to expect to or even want to return.
You should feel the same after your equivalent of :I am gonna fuck you whenever I can" parting shot.

 

I dont mind being in the company of the list of people you put forth. But I do mind it if they are petty, socially backward, psychologically needy, bitter people living unhappy lives.....causing them to take it out on poor unsuspecting customers of the site.

 

The only ones that are socially backward, psychologically needy, bitter people living unhappy lives are the crying, retarded complainers here. Get over it. You're all pathetic.

 

What is your problem LarryS? You have repeatedly blamed me for not being supportive of you. That is not my job. That is your job. I came here to make my case. You are a big boy. If you think you were wronged....make your case (just as you have been doing for a year). It is not my responsibility to look in to and represent everyone else who thinks they were treated unfairly.

You seem bitter that I am receiving more support from some WoV folks (both here and at WoV) that you are receiving. I don't know what to tell you....maybe your case isn't as strong a you think, or for whatever reason, you aren't 'getting through'. That's your issue not mine. If anything you should be grateful that I showed up here, bringing with me, new eyes to expand your platform. And frankly, I have seen that translate into a few folks making supportive statements of you. But that is not my goal. I am not your lawyers or representative. Make your own case...just as I have done. And stop blaming me for your situation.

 

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I hope Shackleford didn't write this rule. As a girly language man, let me point out that it's a mess.

First, the subordinate clause " neither public nor private" can be interpreted, and indeed should be interpreted, as suggesting there is a third category of quote outside the realm of public or private. Perhaps a hybrid?

Second, the torturous use of neither/nor is completely unnecessary, as editing out the word "neither," changing "nor" to "or," and dropping the commas make the thing clear. But someone was shooting for aristocratic legalese and failed miserably.

Third, by using the actual word "quote," the writer does more than imply that paraphrasing is okay. He states it.

I really hope Shackleford didn't write this. No self-respecting Penn State technical writing instructor would pass this mess.

Somebody do me a favor and ship this critique over to WoV. I was never a member, so I'm not banned. Somebody needs some editorial assistance.

 

ah, this sounds like a complaint, you unhappy retarded fuck.

 

re: "retarded fuck"

In the 2015 movie about Kurt Cobain, "Montage of Heck," the movie goes into how his first piece of ass came from fucking a fat retarded chick, and when the other kids found out they gave him unholy shit about it, calling him "retard fucker" or some such.

Come as you are.

 

Shame it wasn't stated as;

'it means we don't want to hear "about" them any longer'.

It is weird that the manboy likes to promote decency and civility, how we are all adults and should act like adults, except when somebody has been nuked, then the real-self can be unleashed, the rules don't matter and the fucktards can post what the like, which would under normal circumstances receive a ban. Perhaps that is why there are so many nukes over there, to allow the fucktards to let off a bit of steam.

Anyway it is nice to see that this thread has more views than the suspension list II

 

Yep, one of my friends at WoV texted me and said the BeachedWhale closed another thread.

She is an angry, ugly, fat, disgusting, fucking bitch. Fuck her.

 

Unreal

 

http://imgur.com/6BMRnTY

 

supportive of M?????
aGAIN..ITS NOT ABOUT me me me.
90 percent of the post above, you refer to has nothing to do with ME.

if anyone is on the ME ME ME kick...its you.

I dont "blame you" for anything except being indifferent to your fellow man and continually making this about YOU.

Its not.

Its behavior thats been going on before and since you got here.

And while YOU have been here....others have been mis-treated in the last 30 days. OPEN YOUR EYES. The world doesnt revolve only around you.

If u were in a drought ridden village of africa amid people dying of starvation, you would be complaining to your neighbor" I hardly had anything to eat yesterday".

Its ok to see there are others in your position and acknowledge them or else you just sound like a self serving broken record. Yes rules have been made up on the fly before...and never even published in the rules section

Freddy defends others as well and never dwells on himself.

Its just a neighborly thing to do.

 

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And since I have been here, I have been critical of BBB's nuking of Hey Slick as well as Mike's handling of Boz's suspension with his nasty knee jerk reaction and comment. But ultimately, it is up to those folks to make their case if they feel they have been mistreated. I am making my case. I didn't come here to save the world. If you and Freddy are o some kind of crusade to right every wrong....power to you.

I am a professional blackjack player, upset and making my case against a guy who has unfairly restricted and now denies my participation on a AP related site. I am not some professional message board monitor, monitoring every case of wrong-doing. I just don't know what you want from me LarryS?

 

I never made MY case. Never tried, I never posted the specifics of MY banning and tried to convince people I was wronged. Nope, never posted reprints of my last post that got me banned.....NEVER. Did I mention N-E-V-E-R.?

I have commented in general on myself. But when it comes to specifics, I have always sited the treatment of my neighbors...and posted quotes from wov regarding them.

So although I feel I have a real good case.....I never presented it ad nauseum like you have. Ok ok we get the picture......you were railroaded, and then said fuck you on the way out...making you persona non grata at wov....even among original supporters.
Since you have been here boz, bluechow, blackhole have been mistreated.
MrV has had his well thought out suggestion called "garbage"
Demango was threatened to be suspended for being a trouble maker for just asking a question that the beached one didnt like.

this is in the last few weeks.

So no I never put together a "case" for myself like you did,,,,with dozens and dozens of entries about ME ME ME. Never did....therefore I couldnt have failed at it. This is a thread about wov is dying.....you know giving multiple aand varied examples as new one come in.

If I behaved as you when the thread started.....it would be 100 pages of m making my case.

Heck..I didnt even try to make my case on page 1.......because from the beginning it was NEVER all about ME.

It actually took me 90 pages to fully reference my banning when Mission asked for specific examples to speak upon. It wasnt until over90 pages that I even referenced a link to it.

So pleeeeeeeeeese dont ever suggest that I have been trying to make MY case.

That would just make me look like a bitter person rather than an advocate for my neighbors...which is all I have been since this post started

have i been unrelenting and sometimes insulting in the process....yup. But thats the bed they made when they sent me away to find other sites to post on, while they made a rule subsequently that its just fine to insult nuked posters. I just happened to find a site that puts us on equal footing....and that is their worst nightmare...at least for the rule makers/customer service agents.

 

Actually Bluechow's suspension occurred before I started here. I know this because I was communicating privately with Mike at the time and asked him if he knew who Bluechow might be. But I have mentioned and been supportive of bluechow as well as thanked him for his support. Did you read my message to him, immediately after his first post here? I also have mentioned several times that I feel Boz's suspension as well as that snide comment about not returning were inappropriate. What more exactly do you think I should be doing?

I am not familiar with blackhole's situation. Again I am not going to go looking up every case that someone may have been mistreated. That is not my job. I am not their advocate. I happen to be familiar with bluechow and Boz situations so I will state my opinion if I think they were wronged.

Now with MrV and Demango, both whom I have expressed my appreciation for their support, you aren't even talking about suspensions/nukings. You are talking about unfavorable comments? Am I supposed to renounce every unfavorable comment made by someone (moderators or members) at WoV? That is not my purpose here LarryS. I have a career. Should I just quit my career and become advocate for anyone who may or may not have been mistreated (or had a negative comment made to or about them)?

You (and Freddy) seem to have a beef with the whole site, moderators and even the members that still post there. A much broader criticism than I have. If you are unhappy with everything about the site, all it's rules and the way it is run, the solution seems simple, don't participate there. Find a site more to your liking.

My beef is really with one guy, and one particular action, Mike himself, who made the decision to try to silence, then suspend, then ultimately ban me, at the request of someone who isn't even a member and doesn't participate regularly at the site. I feel this decision hurt my reputation and credibility and I would like Mike to stand up and say publicly what he has already admitted privately. I am not full of hate or contempt for everything that has ever happened.

Frankly I don't thing your whole "stick up for your neighbor" analogy resonates any more than your "business model/customer service" analogy works. But if that's your thing.....if you think you are some sort of advocate for anyone who was ever wronged at WoV.....have fun. But that is not my purpose.

 

you make it sound like I keep follwoing you around. The fact is...i rarely respond to you. So if I choose to do it once here and there...dont freakout.