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You pretty much sum it up spot on!!!!!!!!! 100%.

Anyone whom comes on basically gets sucked in and those with anything worthwhile to say as well--generally get demeaned and chastised by 'the crowd' of misfits and fucking weirdoes that basically put a finger up each other's asshole and gang up together.

What is ludicrous over there is the past talk about some of the AP'ers at baccarat worried about getting banned for their play. LOL, the only way to banned at baccarat is doing something really wrong in your personal actions, fist fighting, throwing the shoe or something outright criminal. Seriously.

 

not really. It may be good manners. It may just be how someone was raised. It may be due to someone wanting to avoid confrontation. It may be good business practice or even company customer service policy.All the above reasons were present before the term PC came into being.

Imagine this scenario at a Macys cosmetics counter

Customer; I want to return this makeup for a refund
Cosmetician: Sorry, opened makeup can only be exchanged
Customer: Well then move your skinny ass and get me a manager because I am not leaving until I get my money
Cosmetician picks up the phone, hits "intercom" announcing on the loud speaker: Attention Shoppers,...there is a morbidly obese woman at the cosmetic counter commenting on the size of my ass......I am not kidding....come take a look at this.

The above "shaming" although deserved would not happen 100 years ago.....well before PC was in vogue. But all the above reasons I listed above comes into play.

And that is what the maboy/whalegirl duo is lacking. Good manners, proper parenting, while enjoying confrontation as long as they hold the suspension button, and no customer service policy preventing shaming

has nothing to do with PC at all.

 

At times.

But in context, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

If nothing else it helps to keep me mildly amused.

"What fools these mortals be!"

 

LarryS., if shaming is arguably due, that means it is appropriate to upbraid and embarrass the person, typically for doing something really stupid, possibly injurious to self or others.

It is an example of action taken to preserve the good of the order.

Targets of shame know they fucked up; the innocents don't get shamed.

Failing to act when one should for fear of causing umbrage is PC.

Why is society increasingly unwilling to allow harsh, negative feedback?

 

But quite possibly maybe the whalegirl is actually desirous of our country's nigga bro's to adore her flabs of fat. Hence, she gained the weight and maintains the weight for the sake of the nigga's banging her daily. Can't you just picture her?? Bent over doggie-style on a bed with support bricks underneath it of course, watching WoV while there are numerous nigga bro's banging that ass she has???? Come the fuck on man, you can envision that.............................

 

In modern society, lets say the last 100 years....shaming customers and or employees has been bad form ...way before the term PC was in play.

When a customer mis-steps...ignore it or politely ask them to refrain from the behavior that offends.
When an emloyee mis-steps....discuss with them the error privately and give them alternative paths they could have taken using it as a learning/TEACHING experience rather than a shaming experience.

So wov is an electronic workplace for manboy and whalegirl. 'SHAMING" should be the last thing on their mind.

Leave shaming for the religious folk

In normal society , in a workplace....shaming has always been bad form

I have dealt with workplace customers and employees and shaming was never a thought or an option.

The only customer shaming I ever heard of is when some obscure mom and pop store would post bounced checks in a window after repeated tries of collection. But even there it was criminal activity usually, and the criminals didnt feel shame. In some cases the persons name on the check wasnt the person who passed the check....maybe stolen checks. Where at that point the person might take action against the business. All in all...not a good idea.

In private life..if youwant to go the route of shaming your children on order to make a point....thats up to you.

But in the business word..........shaming is a nn starter....and alsways has been before or after the world of PC

 

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That's reducoulose. Since she is a member here and the administration here thinks spreading stuff based on hunches should be done so with some facts, can you provide some?

 

He's gifted when it comes to calculating the odds and finding value on bets. He is not handy-capping games.

Again you want to cherry pick. Did you follow ALL of his sports betting advice? Did you follow all the years of his prop betting? Did you bet the 1/2 parlays? Did you look at his record over the last (4 years?) betting the football contests?

Are you looking at the overall picture? Did he say he's losing overall all on all of his sports plays?

If you pick bridge jumpers and run bad of course you are going to lose. Did you consider he may have just happen to bet more on a few props that didn't go his way and that skewed his results.

At least he explained why he's not doing props(He didn't say he wasn't betting sports, he said he's not betting thousands on props at this time) and he's not telling everyone some BS and still giving out prop bets. Most guys in his position would be trying to charge and make money off of their picks. There are respected touts that won't admit the current situation. Sports betting touts make a significant amount of money even with overall losing records. They glom onto a few good seasons and make sure all the bad records are buried.

Had you followed his 1/2 parlay picks you would've made more money than you could imagine even if you bet the prop bets.

If you followed his contest picks you would have done very well. However you can't just go bet games without shopping for lines. I don't think you understand where, how and why there is an advantage. Your looking at it like all the sports betting ploppys do. You think someone can tell you who's going to win all the time.

If you want to remain ignorant that's on you but cherry picking stuff to fit your arguments is kinda lame especially when you don't understand.

 

No, I didn't look or follow anything, but respond to the post I read. I think Mike and most of all the members there are complete assholes, so I certainly wouldn't take any advice from anyone who participates in such a foolish place. You should have realized my opinion just by reading my posts there up until I got suspended and eventually nuked.

Mike pulled the wool over all of your eyes over there. (or your all just playing stupid for the sake of being able to spew the bullshit) If offshore gaming didn't lift him off the dirt he was laying in, he probably would have lost everything including his sites that require gullible dumb idiots who like abuse to remain a member.

What is it that fn idiot actually does? Aren't there millions of math people that could do what he does? What was his great AP achievement? Would finding someone to pay a million bucks for getting access to his dumb members be considered an AP move?

 

I have participated on a number of sites with Don Schlesinger, blackjack author and mathematician, who is very "anal" about spelling and grammar. It is one of my pets peeves with him, that he is TOO anal about spelling and grammar. I feel like most of us on these sites aren't so particular when it comes to spelling and grammar, as long as we are able to get our point across....live and let live.

But....."reducoulose"? REALLY? This is so bad it is worthy of a slap at you.

 

blackhole, you make a lot of good points and I respect what you write but you are dead wrong about mr.v......he is fucking hilarious.....have you ever seen his constant lampooning of frank stanton

 

How do you know what any math guy could or couldn't do regarding sports? It's not as simple as knowing a math formula. Mike has never proclaimed to be an expert betting sports or a great AP. IIRC he's said the opposite of that. In my experience the people who are really gifted at math don't make great AP's.

People who are good at math with a good balance of other skills are the people who can actually do it and become successful. Guys like RS who can do math, get most all other aspects of AP, are without leaks, normal with a good work ethic will advance and excel.

There's always exceptions to everything. There's people who are mathematically gifted that do well. There's people who suck at math and do well.

I didn't care what Mike did/does/ didn't/ doesn't do. I don't care how much he knows or doesn't know about AP. I don't care how he make or made his money. I don't care if he has millions or hundreds. I don't care what he does in his private life. I don't care if the mods are biased. I don't care how they run the site.

As long as people are not hurting me, my friends or family and they treat me normal or better then I'm good.

Mike has been nice, respectful, fair and a good person to me and everyone I care about that has meet him.
He has a sense of humor and likes to have fun.

 

Sorry, I'm not into that rough stuff.

 

you go girl

 

Troll, troll,troll your posts

Daily on the 'net

Verily, verily, verily, verily

Attention's what you'll get.


*to the tune of "Row, row, row your boat*

 

Yes it's great, I see Larry and MrV are trying to convince SkyPilot to come over, that would be hilarious...Don't give up guys he probably only has a year or two left.( He's got to be around 90)

 

I told you before. He’s just a full-blown gambling fool who loves to gamble so much, he bought a gambling website. His biggest AP move was selling the access to all the moronic members, and future visitors / members, to offshore gambling for an alleged million dollars.

The people that invested in his sites are no fools. They did the math and figured most of the members there were compulsive gamblers all pretending not to be, or too stupid to realize they are, and if not already playing online would give it a go with the Wizz guarantee of safety. (like the USA version of Casinomesiter)

Of course, we know the internet is worldwide, but these guys are more concerned with the multi-billion dollar USA market. Buying the meatballs sites was a backdoor for access to USA sick gamblers.

Take yourself for example Axel. You’ve been gambling online forever. Based on your own posts, you were always one step ahead of the rip-offs, and always made money and got paid. If you ever got screwed it was always an irrelevant meaningless amount. Obviously that gifted AP knowledge goes a long way and has no boundaries even when it comes to off-shore gaming. The AP moto; WIN WIN WIN, even if it means transferring money illegally from the USA, and betting via the internet in some third world unregulated country. AP’s will overcome any obstacles when it comes to gambling and profits.

Mike could care less about USA players transferring money illegally to falsified processors. If the Feds seize these phony processors accounts with your money in them you could kiss it good-bye. The only guarantee USA players have is the new owners will look into your problem for you. If they can’t recover your money your fucked, cause they’re not writing you a check. They just take that site off their good list until they re-brand with a new name and get back on.

Of course he was forced to stay on board. How could he give you the Wizz guarantee to gamble off-shore and not be there? No one in the USA knows who or where these foreigners came from. Mike or the new owners could care less about the problems USA players might have moving money back and forth. They figure 99% will lose and they only need to make certain the money gets there.

They make money with clicks, and percentages of customer’s losses. They already estimated how long it would take before they make profit.

You can’t blame the new owners for being clever, but Mike the same guy that treats you and your friends with respect and likes to have fun, couldn’t care less about you, the members, your friends, and the horses you road in on. It's like someone saying I don't care if he's a known crook, as long as he doesn't steal from me.

Your endless arguments are bias and are in complete denial of what actually took place. You certainly don’t have the balls to bring this argument over there. I tried, but got nuked.

Your arguments are simply and obviously to justify your own compulsions. To me it appears you enjoy being known as the famous un-stoppable AP specialist who managed to make and still make all this money while remaining under the radar for decades.

Becoming one of the top posters there in like 4 years also says a lot about you.

 

With that snippet of information, within 5 minutes I was able to find her address, phone number (landline provider), picture of her house & garden via Google street view (not far from Dunkin Dounuts, Kelsey's Pizza place).

 

that sums it up doesnt it?
you notice that the tin cup waiving/money collecting event while he was negotiating a multi million dollar deal is spoken of very little. Thats because the people who spoke of were made an example of by suspension and or banning. Thats the way they roll over there.

And while some felt taken advantage of and most asked for return of money or rerouted to charity......axhole can just say.....well I didnt give any money so its all good with me.

You are right.....with axehole...its all about him....he doesnt care about his neighbors. He doesnt care if others sent money under false pretenses where the manboy left the impression that he needed to feed his children with the proceeds(which he later deleted moths later). He doesnt care that suckers were ripped off by bovada while manboy gives his seal of approval. He doesnt care that people are, and have been mistreated on wov by a manboy that gloats that he suspends when he is in a bad mood.....or by whalegirl who doles out punishment based on the side of the issue you are on. None of that phases him. Because HE is untouched.

Well KJ felt the same way, had the same world view....and how did that work out for him?

Eventually they came for him.