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Blackjack Current feud with Qfit (Norman Wattenberger)

Discussion in 'Personal Feuds' started by KewlJ, Feb 13, 2017.

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  1. Parpaluck

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    With this very post of mine, this venerable thread, Current feud with Qfit (Norman Wattenberger)”, has reached a milestone: 18,500 views. Nothing comes even remotely close in “The Asylum” (“Norman Bates’ Motel of Cards”, or BJTF).

    The well-known felon Con Artist, da character who relishes character assassination and enjoys visiting harm on others, has a ways to go…
     
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    Interesting. I figured they all just hung out at the same donut shop for coffee since most posts occur in the morning. But there is an extensive group that beat the same drum and do sound the same. So, all these characters are just Don and Norm? Wow, and I thought I needed to get a life. :eek:
     
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    KewlJ is a whiny drama queen little bitch.
     
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    Ya think? :D
     
  5. Parpaluck

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    Fantastic! A real explosion in number of views! This thread jumped overnite from 18,000+ to 20,000+ views! This is a real landmark in gambling posting.

    Something might have happened. Maybe the resident here “Doctor Marc” overdosed N0rm with opioids! Looks like the entire Asylum drove here in droves!

    https://saliu .com/ScreenImgs/NormW/ CurrentFeudNorm.gif

    And here is again how the norman wattenberger query fares on Google. Unfortunately, images for norman wattenberger still represent the one and only Parpaluck. You offend me, Miss Google!

    https://saliu .com/ScreenImgs/NormW/ NormGoogle2109.gif
     

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  6. Parpaluck

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    Krazy-Norman-“Bates” writes in his Asylum (BJTF), in a thread entitled “So, just found out I've been impersonated!”:

    • “I know who the owner is. I have never in my life made a legal threat against anyone; and have no intention at this point in my life. This despite the huge number of statements naming me personally stating that I constantly make such threats by seriously sick people that have made this claim for years. I don't even have a lawyer. I don't need one.”

    See also a screenshot:

    NormWLegalLies.gif

    Listen to this pathological liar! He threatened legally at least 5 entities. And I was one of the targets (2014). In one of his emails, he legally threatens me in this manner:
    • “You have committed criminal perjury upon the advice of a convicted criminal ... Be advised that I shall hold you liable for all costs related to enforcing my intellectual property rights as described in Article 27 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.”
    Just read:
    “Norman Wattenberger: A Real Legal Threat in the Gambling Community”.

    Also, it was widely reported on the Internet that Krazy-Norman-“Bates” sent, in less than 24 hours, 19 legally-threatening emails to the administrator of another gambling forum. N0rm has never, ever, denied that statement!

    A guy named 21forme writes in the same thread:
    • “Suppose you find out it's that mental midget on Z(en)Z(one).”
    That guy is most likely the real “mental midget”, the owner and patient-in-chief of “The Asylum” (BJTF), one of the most seriously sick peopleNorman Wattenberger Shkiottorban himself. The two are one and the same as they express themselves (in writing) as one and the same.

    Why “The Asylum”? Well, one of their most notorious “patients” and a Norm’s closest buddy, Don Schlesinger, called it that way. And, for once, he IS write… er… right…
    Read in the Gambling Forums:
    “The Asylum: BlackjackTheForum (BJTF)”.
     
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  7. Parpaluck

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    Read more relevant facts about N0rm’s paranoia and hypocrisy right here, at the Gambling Forums:

    Explanation needed.
     
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    Hooray! Another landmark reached: 21,000 (twenty-one bj thousand) views!
     
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  9. Parpaluck

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    It still flies sky-high! 22,500 views! This thread deserves to be celebrated in my post #100 in the GamblingForums! Many happy returns (to you too, Normy!)
     
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    One of the most paranoid crooks of our grandiose Cyber World, Shkiottorban (aka Norman Wattenberger), struck it again in his own BJTF – The Asylum!

    One honest member of the bedlam started a thread titled “Willing to give up my Account for KewlJ Reinstatement!”

    KewlJ (aka KJ previously) responded in two posts (after registering under a new nickname, johnsmith). That Norman “Bates” will mouthfoam again, scratch his naughty face, and scream “Copyright infringement!” It is a painful obsession… but he has survived it!

    The two posts do not exist any longer for all intents and purposes. The author was banished, therefore the creations were banished. Never mind, Norman “Bates” Shkiottorban is not the author. KewlJ is. Here they are…

    I.
    “If you would avoid any forum that allows him [John Patrick] to participate, then why didn’t you? Instead you followed, chased, trolled him to numerous forums just to continue your feud.

    The rest of your statements are peppered with dishonesty and exaggerations. There was no wishing anybody dead, including you. The statement was that I would celebrate the day you died and this forum shut down because I believe this forum was harmful to newer players.

    Especially when you allowed and protected the member known as T3 to intentionally mislead players with his intentionally misleading claims. You Norm Wattenberger enabled him….for years! And you prevented those challenging his mathematically impossible claim, until Don was finally allowed to do so. To his credit this T3 person later admitted that his claims were based on a very small sample size and as he accumulated a larger sample size, the results came back down to earth, to where the math said they should be as opposed to the impossible numbers he originally stated.

    As far as Shackleford [The Lizard of Odds, aka Krookooveyecker], you followed me to that forum rather than avoiding it as in your quoted statement. You followed me to continue a feud and then bullied Shackleford into banning me. I posted his private messages to me that included him saying you emailed him 19 times in a 24 hour period demanding that he ban me. At one point you threatened to stop talking to him if he didn’t.

    So let me ask you….what kind of person does THAT? You are dishonest Norm. You apparently have the same aversion to the truth as you do to soap. (or so I have heard).

    If you had stuck to what you just said and not followed to other forums, none of this would have even occurred. This was your doing.”

    II.
    “Can you explain why you allowed / enabled / protected this person T3, allowing the platform for these intentionally misleading claims, that YOU as a math guy KNEW were impossible? Because that is really what this remains all about. You can say what a "bad" guy I am. That I called you names. You can blame me for Zen zone. (why I have no idea), But the fact remains you chose to protect someone making intentional misleading claims that had the ability to harm newer players.

    You protected him and provided a platform for that BS for several years. And the only explanation, I can come up with was that he was the leading poster on this forum by a mile at the time. Like 15,000 posts when everyone else had 2 or 3 thousand. You forum owners have a different agenda....it is traffic and the "leading poster" helps build that. If there is another explanation, please share.

    And yes I am aware you will be banning this account and removing these posts without answering these questions. Because that is what this is really all about. You can't honestly answer for your actions.”

    One of the most paranoid crooks of our grandiose Cyber World, acted in his only way: crooked. Shkiottorban (aka Norman Wattenberger), the absolutist owner of BJTF-The Asylum, first banned KJ (aka KewlJ). Then the crook-of-da-crooks started posts that viciously attacked KJ! How could possibly KJ respond to the attacks?! The first attack is a terrible one!

    “That is a lie. I have avoided the forums on which you post like the plague.”
    “That was one of several posts and emails you made about my death and the death of Shack.”
    That’s a grave accusation that KJ is not allowed to defend himself against!
    “Multiple lies.”
    “More lies.”
    “Two more lies.”
    “…you have created yet another sock to libel people…”
    Yet another grave accusation that KJ is not allowed to defend himself against!


    The pathological liar always states that he ignores yours truly, Ion Saliu (aka Parpaluck) — always. But he couldn’t control his sick urge to kick my ass… again. Of course, the deranged hypocrite always misspells my name on the reason of… “copyright infringement”!

    “Well, if I delete it [KJ’s thread on BJTF-The Asylum], he'll spend the next year posting on eight forums that I delete any attempt to tell the "truth" about fraud, like D@ug Gr@ant, I@n S@alui, JStat, etc.”

    Source
    • https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/showthread.php?42933-Willing-to-give-up-my-Account-for-KewlJ-Reinstatement!/page2
    Skum of two screaming bitches and three krazed dawgs — one without an eye, one without an ear, one without a tail!
     
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  12. Parpaluck

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    Let’s bet on Norman “Bates” Wattenberger’s reaction to my previous post. The reaction of the notorious sicko always amounts to legal threatening leveled at the owner of the respective forum. Here are the latest odds as calculated by the Lizard of Odds (aka Wizard of Vegas), a notorious bedlam fellow of BJTF – The Asylum.

    • Norman “Bates” Wattenberger did not threaten legally: 1,000,000 to 1.
    • Norman “Bates” Wattenberger issued fewer than 2 legal threats: 100,000 to 1.
    • Norman “Bates” Wattenberger issued at least one legal threat: 1 to 1000.
     
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  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Parpaluck,

    You appear dislike the Wizardofodds. Why? (Lizardofodds comment.)

    You realize that he is an actuary, math nerd, right? His math and grasp on basic probability is very tight.
    So what's up? Why the snarky name calling?
     
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  14. Parpaluck

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    Yeah, right! Lizard's math: "Getting 200 'heads' in a row has the same chance as getting 1 'heads'... in a row."

    Come back after you got "200 'heads' in a row"...
     
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  15. Parpaluck

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    For reference:

    • https://saliu .com/bbs/messages/204.html
    • Wizard of Odds, Lizard of Odds, Wizard of Vegas: Gambler's Fallacy, Fraud, Schizophrenic Idiot Paid by Casinos.

    However, I am still anxious to see your UFO… er, “roulette computer”…
     
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  16. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Parpaluck,

    Your mania makes it difficult to follow your posts/rants. Then the background finishes off the reader after just a paragraph. It's almost incoherent. I think you're taking parts of what The Wizard of Odds says out of context and or you're not quite comprehending all of it. And at times you appear to contradict yourself. Really it's all just too convoluted to grasp. Try removing the mania and emotion from your posts and creating an outline before you write.

    Why are roulette system sellers often manic/bipolar?
     
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  17. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    This appears to have been taken out of context by you. I suspect that what he was stating was that if 199 heads have just hit in a row, then the probability of getting another one is still just 1/2. Which would be correct since the previous 199 flips have already hit heads.

    Below is a great explanation of the gambler's fallacy by Michael BlueJay. This should help you understand it better.
    https://easy.vegas/gambling/fallacy
     
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  18. Parpaluck

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    You better look at your bifocal glasses first, doofus. You must try harder to beat your near-blindness. The page background you complained about my website is classy, as most visitors expressed. In fact, the background enhances readability. That’s for normal persons. Idiots and shizoids have the opposite experience — which is the norm for sickos.

    Nope! The Lizard of Odds expressed it literally. “Getting 200 ‘heads’ in a row has the same chance as getting 1 ‘heads’… in a row”. He amended his statement in his next email to yours truly. “How about this,” he sez. “Getting 20 ‘heads’ in a row has the same chance as getting 1 ‘heads’… in a row.”

    Now, as I am a proverbially understanding man, I’ll wait for you to toss 20 ‘heads’ in a row. Compare them to the number of 1 ‘heads’ occurrences. Then, you may come back here and face me... Or, read again the Web page dedicated to the famed schizoid:
    • https://saliu .com/bbs/messages/204.html
    • Wizard of Odds, Lizard of Odds, Wizard of Vegas: Gambler's Fallacy, Fraud, Schizophrenic Idiot Paid by Casinos.


    2) The ‘double’ feature of your schizophrenia.

    You cultishly abide by the “gambler’s fallacy”. You loudly mouthfoam that gambling is a surefire losing proposition because the “gambler’s fallacy” is the totalitarian ruler. Yet, you are an avid roulette gambler (and loser, of course).

    You insanely claim that you “beat” roulette by… visual ballistics! All the while, you complain you can’t read my classically designed website because of the enhancing background!

    Here is why a very large number of readers stated that the background of my Web pages is the classiest in the history of the Internet. I have always given credit to a bunch of poorly paid Microsoft guys who came up with that image based on the hourly glass. Yes, we live in an everlasting time:

    idea.gif

     
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  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    No, you're taking what The Wizardofodds said out of context.
    By the way, did you know that he recently sold his website for something like two million dollars! I'm impressed.

    You should take some time to study it's layout. It's visually appealing and easy to read. There's no distracting background irritating the reader. Everything is grounded solidly in basic probability and statistics, and the math is often displayed.
     
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    I don't think anybody believes that the Wizard actually said this. I suggest you post the entire quote, completely unedited, without ellipses, and with enough of the preceding sentences to show the context clearly.

    The Wizard's site has thousands of pages where he walks through probability calculations of casino games in precisely the way you say he doesn't.

    Given that the statement/belief you ascribe to the Wizard can't be found anywhere on his multi-thousand page website, and in fact that the pages there show the exact opposite, what are you suggesting? That he publishes one thing on his site, consistently, in hundreds of pages, for over two decades, but that he truly and secretly harbors a completely different, ludicrous belief that he reveals only in private email messages?
     
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